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liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 02:20 PM Aug 2016

Hillary Clinton Is One of America's Most Honest Politicians - Mother Jones



Jim Geraghty says that Hillary Clinton is a serial liar:


We know she lies when she’s cornered. Running from snipers in the Balkans, being “dead broke” upon leaving the White House, “all my grandparents” immigrated to America, her tale of trying to join the Marines, her claim she never received or sent any material that was classified on her private e-mail system, her claim to have started criticizing the Iraq War before Barack Obama did… she lies, and she lies, and she lies.

Seriously, Jim? I'll give you the Balkans thing. That was a lie. But the others aren't. The Clintons were in debt when they left the White House. Hillary's great-grandparents were immigrants—she was off by a generation. Nobody knows if she ever tried to join the Marines, but there's no evidence she didn't. She didn't knowingly send classified material on her private email system, and it's hardly fair to judge her by the fact that some of her emails were retroactively classified. And her statement about the Iraq War was strained (she was talking about criticism after Obama joined the Senate), but it's typical political exaggeration, not a lie.

Look: all politicians lie sometimes. That includes Hillary Clinton. But as the chart on the right shows, Hillary is one of the most honest politicians on the national stage. Here's a similar conclusion from the New York Times.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/08/hillary-clinton-one-americas-most-honest-politicians

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Hillary Clinton Is One of America's Most Honest Politicians - Mother Jones (Original Post) liberal N proud Aug 2016 OP
That is why they attack her on "trustworthiness" frazzled Aug 2016 #1
Yep. n/t Lucinda Aug 2016 #5
Women are considered more "trustworthy" Hortensis Aug 2016 #13
Obama lies the least, but Hillary edges him out slightly: she tells the truth more than anyone. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #16
+1 lovemydog Aug 2016 #19
I love having articles like this to point to. sarae Aug 2016 #2
Don't forget THIS one, too: calimary Aug 2016 #11
Great read underpants Aug 2016 #3
thank you for this jcgoldie Aug 2016 #4
I don't think the Balkans thing was a lie... LAS14 Aug 2016 #6
Trump's total for Mostly False and worse: nearly 80% TwilightZone Aug 2016 #7
Seeing Jeb Bush Jamaal510 Aug 2016 #8
Just posted the graph on my facebook... Little Star Aug 2016 #9
You have to look really hard to see the blue line for Trump. Rex Aug 2016 #10
It might be helpful if they ranked "more honest" towards the top. BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #12
K & R! lonestarnot Aug 2016 #14
Reality has a Hillary bias. nt SunSeeker Aug 2016 #15
Exactly! unitedwethrive Aug 2016 #17
Thank you! Bookmarked. (nt) betsuni Aug 2016 #18
K&R & bookmarked baldguy Aug 2016 #20

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. That is why they attack her on "trustworthiness"
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 02:24 PM
Aug 2016

and repeatedly try to instill the idea that she is "untrustworthy." It's the Republican tactic of taking your own worst shortcoming and projecting it onto your opponent instead. It's a tactic that the left has learned to employ as well. How many times did we see "I don't trust her" repeated on this site as the reason people couldn't vote for her?

Oh well, in our current climate, lies can never be fought with facts.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Women are considered more "trustworthy"
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:46 PM
Aug 2016

in general on polls, so that defined a major strength they had to take down.

Note, though, that Hillary's ratings are up in the positive percentages anyway EXCEPT when she is running for an office no woman has ever held. Then they plummet.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
2. I love having articles like this to point to.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 02:30 PM
Aug 2016

Thank you.

FYI, the last time I tried to tell someone she was more honest than most politicians, they looked at me like I had 2 heads. It's exasperating trying to convince someone with that kind of attitude.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
6. I don't think the Balkans thing was a lie...
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 03:27 PM
Aug 2016

I think it was the understandable confusion on the part of a civilian in an aircraft which had been warned about sniper fire.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
7. Trump's total for Mostly False and worse: nearly 80%
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 03:52 PM
Aug 2016

That's...remarkable.

The amount of intentional ignorance required to overlook that kind of obsessive lying is extraordinarily high.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
9. Just posted the graph on my facebook...
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:09 PM
Aug 2016

Most of my family & friends are Dems but I've got a few that are not but they are big mouths that drive me insane. This was my very first political post on facebook. No more Mrs Nice!!!!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
10. You have to look really hard to see the blue line for Trump.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:14 PM
Aug 2016

I am surprised he has any green or blue, what did he tell that was truthful?

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
12. It might be helpful if they ranked "more honest" towards the top.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:40 PM
Aug 2016

Being a liar shouldn't give you top billing.

Maybe the most honest people being at the bottom has something to do with other people not acknowledging who is actually honest?

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