What People Over 50 Aren’t Hearing In All This Election Noise

[rocktivity]

Huffington Post:

Whether you think America already is great or needs to be made great again, if you are over 60, you may be feeling like wallpaper in this election’s run-up about now: You are there, presumably contributing to the room’s decor, but it’s finally dawning that nobody actually sees you.

Between the “believe me I’ll fix it” Trump answer to everything and the “yeah but is she trustworthy?” feelings about Clinton, there remains one truism: The 2016 presidential election is not about growing old in America. Neither candidate has made Social Security reform, Medicare insanity, ageism or elderly poverty so much as a talking point let alone a priority.

We published this originally last May, and since nothing has changed, we’re trying again!

Over 50? Where The Candidates Stand On Issues That Matter To You...



rocktivity

[unblock]

1. eh?? speak up, sonny!*

*yes, i am over 50

[tonyt53]

2. As someone who is over 60, I can say that most Democrats I know don;t feel the way that you describe

You see, we didn't ask from anything special. We KNOW that the Democratic candidate will work to make sure that SS is taken care of. We KNOW the same about Medicare. Those two items are Democratic Party standards that there is no debate on. And yes, the level of poverty of the elderly has been discussed when Wall Street reform is discussed. We are a lot more aware of things than some appear to give us credit.

The age group you mentioned is more concerned about the direction of the country than simply areas where our group has the most to gain. We make noise at the ballot box. We are the age group that reliably votes. We don't need empty promises about getting anything free, we just want what has been promised to us, and we paid for. Nothing more for us, but we do want this country to be more united.

[Wellstone ruled]

3. Agree,

Rule of thumb,do not mess with us old Geezers cause we will bite your ass.

[LongtimeAZDem]

6. +1 (nt)

[Jamaal510]

7. Agreed,

coming from a 26 year old.

[DemonGoddess]

18. ^^^This!!!

Well said!

[Person 2713]

31. You don't just need to assume, she addressed it early on in the campaign

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/social-security-and-medicare/
Medicare for 50-55 an option

Where does this OP get off stating this about the dem platform? I am not sure about trump and do not care
And ageism ? Aren't both candidates experiencing that themselves? Seems like they would have an inside view
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/briefing/statements/2016/07/05/hillary-clinton-statement-on-alliance-for-retired-americans-endorsement/

Let's work together NOT divide people like Trump does
That's how we win

[whistler162]

47. Nah.. Trump's 39, sorry Mr. Benny!

UWG
50

Ugly White Geezer over 50

[FSogol]

32. +1 Well said. n/t

[Hoyt]

4. I'm impacted by SS and Medicare, but I believe the best way to help SS/MC is to improve the economy.

Once the economy is humming, young folks have found decent jobs, there is a decent minimum wage, education is affordable, affordable insurance is available to everyone, we reign in military expenditures and increase taxes on wealthy, etc., then we can expand Medicare and SS. One exception is those on the lowest end of Social Security right now who desperately need help, along with those in what the OP calls elderly poverty.

[pangaia]

35. The cap on paying into SS and Medicare absolutey must be raised.

[TexasProgresive]

5. Don't cover me up with that broad brush.

I am 66 and I know that America has done great things, mixed with the not so great and has the potential to be really great. I think that's called progress. Oh and this old man is white as well - We will soldier on to a better world because we are:



From an old union man who still believes in Solidarity.

[radical noodle]

9. THIS ^^^^^^

[DemonGoddess]

19. +1000!

[pangaia]

36. We shouldn't have to be 'soldiering' on.

[TexasProgresive]

38. I'm not sure what your point is but if you object to the military term replace it with

persist, continue, carry on, go on, keep on, keep going, struggle on, hammer away, be persistent, be determined, see/follow something through, keep at it, press on/ahead, not take no for an answer, be tenacious, stand one's ground, stand fast/firm, hold on, go the distance, stay the course, plod on, stop at nothing, leave no stone unturned; informal soldier on, hang on, plug away, stick to one's guns, stick it out, hang in there.

and never with "give up!"

[pangaia]

39. I just mean that it should not have to be such an endless, decades long fight.

We need leaders who 'see,' who are aware - first and foremost of themselves - and by that the world around them, who care more about human beings than their political careers and the revolving doors.

Of course, that we have to find and ELECT those types goes without saying.

[MineralMan]

8. Well, I'm 71, and I've had no problem hearing about those things.

Whoever wrote this must not be listening, or is too young to really think about it all very much.

[DemonGoddess]

20. +1000!

[BlueMTexpat]

43. I'm just a tad older than 71

but I concur with you!

[misterhighwasted]

10. The over-50 age group is more aware of the danger of Trump.

This age group recalls the history of leaders who Trump aligns with.
None of them are fond life-memories either.

I have no idea where this OP is coming from.


Just sayin.

[liberal N proud]

30. We saw what a Trump can do and we read our history books

I am not old enough to remember WWII but that legacy was drilled into us in History. It is easy to recall all the other fascist/crazy regimes in the world and what they have done to their countries and the world.

I am not wallpaper.

[MindPilot]

11. I don't have time to look it up right now, but...

I'm pretty sure Hillary hit on all of those points during her DNC speech.

[msongs]

13. yes she did nt

[Lebam in LA]

12. Almost 70 here and don't feel like wallpaper

I don't actually understand this at all

[Bongo Prophet]

14. Hillary has spoken out and supports expanding medicare and social security.

Including opting in at 55. And expanding ACA to add public option, that, while not directly related to over 60 (if medicare is expanded) would help people retire, start lat-in-life businesses, etc. This helps open job market and allows retirees to make some extra money, which is important for those without savings or pensions to rely on.

All depends on getting the house back, though, as does most of what we need. We'll have to work hard and be somewhat focused and patient to make these things happen. Won't be easy, and so many people fall into cynicism within the first few months, like what happened with Pres Obama.
I try to be hopeful, lest despair carry the day.

[bettyellen]

21. Expanding social security to benefit more elderly caregivers!

[Bongo Prophet]

22. Yes! That could really help a LOT of people as well!

It is our challenge to educate through sharing real info to dispel "cartoon" Hillary, so that people can see the real, caring and oh so smart person that she really is. She is ready, and I think we are in for more progress, whether in small or large steps, I will have her back and not pick at every little setback or bump in the road, just like I have for our current prez.

Even in worst case of republican obstruction, we can have a more liberal court that will carry us forward for decades.
Onward!

[bettyellen]

23. Exactly!!

[roaminronin]

15. As An Older Gen Xer

in my middle 40s I see it very differently. To me what's different is that Baby Boomers and their needs are no longer running the dialogue, syntax, and entire platform of the Democratic Party. My generation watched as your needs for economic security drowned out ours as NAFTA slowly eroded our shot at stable jobs, a good standard of living, and retirement. Then came the total Crash of 2008 and the situation became impossible to ignore. The more populous Millennials saw what little prospects were available for educated people starting their careers and formed the Occupy movement. The best thing to come out of this election cycle was that people are finally talking about the United State's responsibilities to its citizens that still have student debt and are still working and trying to build their careers. After 30 plus years of running the party, guess you seniors will finally have to learn to share the stage.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

16. Same here

... the economy has stunk from the time that I graduated high school. I saw baby boomer union employees around here getting paid extremely well while new labor deals left scraps for GenXers. I'm pro-union, but the new deals were geared at protecting older employees as younger ones were paid about minimum wage.

There's just a larger number of people affected by the economy now, so the collective power is stronger,

[TuxedoKat]

17. This also happened

to the younger Baby Boomers.

[RobinA]

44. Yes, I Am

a younger boomer. I graduated from college in 1980. Talk about suckage. I will never recover, although I am doing reasonably well.

I never get this generational blaming. The pension problem is not one generation's fault. It's the fault of legislation allowing corporations unfettered access to running the country. Votes do have consequences.

[bettyellen]

24. Lots of the boomers had their pensions stripped too...

Benefits taken away with no warning.
And for the last years of the boomers, pensions were a thing of the past. The greatest generation was the last one to get all the benefits.

[Demsrule86]

26. Elections have consequences

When Bush was elected and was able to put two justices on SCOTUS pension were doomed.

[bettyellen]

37. I agree, but not sure why you're so snide with a lifelong Dem.

When Bush came around I saw a lot of uneducated gen exerts so unconcerned they did not vote.
And take your complaints to the fellas who elect GOPers please. It ain't us women!

[Demsrule86]

48. I did not mean to be snide. I am a lifelong Dem too...sorry.

[Demsrule86]

27. You blame baby boomers for things

Republicans actually did...and many in your age group helped elect Republicans too. Divide and conquer is all this is about.

[Demsrule86]

25. Older voters also want what is best for the country and don't need to be catered to.

This is actually insulting to older voters in my opinion.

[still_one]

28. That is not accurate. Social security and Medicare are part of her campaign

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/social-security-and-medicare/

and for anyone interested, here is what Hillary is campaigning on:

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/

[Person 2713]

29. That is not true Clinton has talked about Medicare expanding to50- 55 and assured social security

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/279399-clinton-proposes-expanding-medicare-to-more-people
This is from may
I picked an old article so it can not be said it was a last minute cave in to sanders she will assuredly abandon or some other garbage

I come to DU to read this ?
really?

[JoePhilly]

33. Nonsense

[lonestarnot]

34. You must have missed it. I hear Hillary talking about it.

[emulatorloo]

40. Article detached from reality. Or else is a disinformation piece.

[RobinA]

42. Yeah, But

if you're over 50 you know that campaign rhetoric except on the very broadest level is just so much blah, blah, blah. What they talk about, what they don't talk about...pfft. No real reflection on what happens when they are in office. So you vote for the person you think has the best chance of not driving us off a cliff and hope maybe something good happens along the way.

[DemonGoddess]

45. We that are over 50

are also much more likely to disregard the chronic right wing talking points. You know why? We saw what this exceptional woman who is our nominee did, for years; as well as what she was SUBJECTED to, for years.

[Sunlei]

46. Issues related to 'over 50s' are addressed on the Ds website.

Social Security, Medicare and social inequity are in the top issues with policy


"ISSUES" ON TOP MENU BAR
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/bio/