2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy is Clinton the Only Presidential Candidate Who Isn't Pandering to Anti-Vaxxers?
Uhhh... 'Cause she's freaking SANE?
There is no medical evidence that links the ingredients in vaccines to autism. Period. Full stop.
Though the causes of autism itself remain shrouded in mystery, the belief that vaccinations play a role in its incidence, despite being widespread, is demonstrably false.
But in spite of this, three out of the four people running for president in 2016 Donald Trump of the Republican party, Dr. Jill Stein of the Green Party and Gary Johnson of the Libertarian party have alluded to the fact that they buy into the bunk science.
Stein, an actual licensed medical doctor, gave an interview to the Washington Post on Friday in which she said that concerns about the role that corporate interests play in pharmaceutical companies' approval of vaccines warranted skepticism about them language that, the Post notes, is common among the anti-vaxxer crowd.
"As a medical doctor, there was a time where I looked very closely at those issues, and not all those issues were completely resolved," she said. "There were concerns among physicians about what the vaccination schedule meant [and] the toxic substances like mercury, which used to be rampant in vaccines. There were real questions that needed to be addressed. I think some of them at least have been addressed. I don't know if all of them have been addressed."
Johnson, for his part, was openly disavowing mandatory vaccinations on Twitter as recently as 2011.
https://mic.com/articles/150182/why-is-clinton-the-only-presidential-candidate-who-isn-t-pandering-to-anti-vaxxers?utm_source=policymicTBLR&utm_medium=main&utm_campaign=social#.uxDO2hIVy
Arkansas Granny
(31,517 posts)children's health issues. She understands the need for childhood vaccinations.
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt
Brother Buzz
(36,434 posts)Simple, no?
Mary Mac
(323 posts)Nt
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)3catwoman3
(23,993 posts)Several of them are in the House and Senate. Case in point - Paul Broun, MD (member of Congress from GA, IIRC) who stated evolution and embryology were "lies straight from the pits of hell."
Last I knew, embryology was taught in med school. How can you study the slides and say they are bullshit?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Snopes verifies her statements on the topic. Whatever. She's effectively a nonentity in this race -- except at DU.
My guess is she's being targeted as a proxy for some recalcitrant Sanders voters by some who've seemingly become addicted to battle and are having withdrawal-from-primary problems.
As for her and the others, all I care is that none are Democrats.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)But that's not what we're saying here when we say that she's an anti-vaxxer...
Check these out:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028058743
Justin Rosario
After weeks of waffling on the issue, Jill Stein finally just came out and admitted she buys into the anti-vaxxer nonsense that runs rampant through affluent and spoiled white neighborhoods. This should come as absolutely no surprise as Stein has long pandered to the same group of people that vote their conscience because theyll never pay the price for putting someone like Donald Trump into the White House.
But thank goodness Stein finally stopped evading the issue and let the country know that proven, peer-reviewed science is unimportant in the face of how her followers feel and the evils of corporations:
Lets be clear: Stein is full of shit. She knows quite well that vaccines have been tested, retested and tested some more by dozens of different groups that have nothing to do with the pharmaceutical industry. All have found exactly nothing wrong with them and, aside from the incredibly rare adverse reaction, there are simply no ill effects on people being vaccinated.
http://leftwingnation.org/jill-stein-finally-admits-shes-an-anti-science-anti-vaxxer-piece-of-shit/
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)dishonest pol stuff trying to keep both sides happy is just one reason why.
Frankly, I'm very irritated by all this attention that drags a rather scummy political hole and the person at its head into prominence at this Democratic forum. FORGET them. The Green Party is a massive failure and a massive disappointment for those of us who hoped it wouldn't be taken over by the crowd of dingbats and extremists who rushed in. These days its most important function is as a statement of rejection of other parties by various malcontents. I'd leave them to enjoy their imaginary victories in oblivion.
Michelle Obama is right. When they go low, we (should) go high. Not run down and leap in with them.
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)She says that she's not anti-vaxx, but then she panders to the anti-vaxxers with the "we can't trust the government" and "they have legitimate questions" routines.
Pandering when she knows better actually makes it worse.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)self-aggrandizing nonentity? Pushing herself onto the national stage doesn't make her matter.
LAS14 and others are right: Pick a Senator!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512327618
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)More than likely, the same thing that happened in 2012 will happen this year. She polled in the mid-single-digits and ended up with 0.35% in November.
While I agree that she's unlikely to be much of a factor in November, I also don't really have a problem with speeding up her return to irrelevancy. haha
Joking aside, we as a community do likely spend too much time talking about her. Personally, I don't post much about her other to point out her poll-dive in 2012 or her nutty statements about Hillary.