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RandySF

(86,193 posts)
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:38 AM Aug 2016

Democrats make a play to turn Arizona blue

PHOENIX — It has been two decades since Arizona’s red-state status was in doubt in a presidential election. But that was before Donald Trump and his build-a-border-wall platform won the GOP primary and inflamed anti-Republican sentiment among Latino voters.

Trump’s campaign is dispatching vice-presidential nominee Mike Pence to the state for two public events, a tangible sign of Republicans’ concern that Arizona could be competitive this year — while local Democrats, thinking along the same lines, are intensely lobbying Hillary Clinton’s campaign and national Democratic groups for the resources to help make it happen.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/arizona-clinton-trump-blue-226536#ixzz4GBpQwzEW

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unblock

(56,261 posts)
1. already a victory if it diverts their time and money
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:47 AM
Aug 2016

but it will be sweet to add to clinton's margin of victory!

LongtimeAZDem

(4,516 posts)
2. It's going to come down to turnout
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:48 AM
Aug 2016

We have two nearly indestructible Republican blocs here; the Sun-City vote, and the Mormon vote. They're not huge, but they're a consistent couple of percentage points at the ballot box, and that's what regularly skews us to the right.

If we really get out the Democratic vote this time, and we get enough apathy and crossovers, we could do it.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
3. The Mormons don't seem to like him much
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:50 AM
Aug 2016

judging by the numbers coming out of Utah.

Gee maybe a serial adulterer with 5 children from 3 wives who cheats people out of their money and disrespects the military isn't particularly attractive to them?

LongtimeAZDem

(4,516 posts)
5. Agreed, but the odds of them going for a Democrat are remote in the extreme
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:56 AM
Aug 2016

They'll take him for the Republican control.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
6. They might go for Johnson
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:04 PM
Aug 2016

Johnson has very high numbers in Utah. And in the case of AZ (and UT), Johnson votes are DEFINITELY coming out of Trump's total.

LongtimeAZDem

(4,516 posts)
7. The AZ Mormons are more of the "Iron rod" type, and they'll vote the way they're told
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:11 PM
Aug 2016

we have a chance, but it will be up to us AZ Democrats to get out and vote, which, historically, we don't do very well.

kimbutgar

(27,555 posts)
8. My mother in law lives in Sun city she is a good Lutheran church going woman
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:29 PM
Aug 2016

And told me she has only encountered one person voting for Cheeto. The other widows in her group are for Hillary.

ffr

(23,448 posts)
4. Here's the challenge. NV already registered 72,000 more Dems than
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 11:55 AM
Aug 2016

the Rethugs.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512335433

AZ (and all other red states) could do the same.

Make it happen!

kimbutgar

(27,555 posts)
9. I also think Harry Reid is going to get the Mormons to vote for his replacement and Hillary
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:31 PM
Aug 2016

BumRushDaShow

(172,212 posts)
12. Speaking of that
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:05 PM
Aug 2016

I happened to briefly flick to MSNBC last night when Chris Hayes had Sen. Jeff Flake (R-AZ) on and Flake was calmly trashing Trump and said he not only refuses to endorse him but refuses to vote for him. So between him and McCain, AZ is toss-uppy. Turnout might make it pinkish but I don't think it's ready to flip yet like NV and CO did.

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