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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie supporter/delegate tells Jill Stein to leave the
Dem convention.
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Bernie supporter/delegate tells Jill Stein to leave the (Original Post)
one_voice
Aug 2016
OP
I'm with that guy. I was outraged the day she showed up on the floor being interviewed on MSNBC.
onehandle
Aug 2016
#1
His Vox interview is making an impact on the Sanders holdouts I know on FB
LongtimeAZDem
Aug 2016
#2
onehandle
(51,122 posts)1. I'm with that guy. I was outraged the day she showed up on the floor being interviewed on MSNBC.
Go to your own damn convention, Greennut.
Never thought there would be a Green candidate more self-centered than Ralph Nader.
LongtimeAZDem
(4,515 posts)2. His Vox interview is making an impact on the Sanders holdouts I know on FB
DinahMoeHum
(22,426 posts)3. Passage well worth repeating and spreading around. . .
http://www.vox.com/2016/8/1/12337522/bernie-bust-sanders-delegate
(boldface emphasis is mine - DMH)
(snip)
Im black, and I have four black sons. Some white liberals have the privilege to pretend that Jill Stein is going to be taken seriously. I dont. If Donald Trump wins, he's more likely to appoint judges that oppose Black Lives Matter and criminal justice reform, and who think that police officers who can kill black people without being charged already don't have enough power. That means if my kids get shot, the officers who did it would become less likely to be charged. A lot of white liberals dont understand that they have the privilege of a protest vote that will hurt the people they purport to stand for black people, immigrants, LGBTQ folks, and so many people who will be affected adversely if Trump wins.
If they stay home or vote for a third party particularly in swing states these folks are gambling with real lives. Because heres the reality: They wont be affected by the fallout. Their privilege will inoculate them to it, but minorities wont be. I dont understand how they could not see that.
So I dont have the luxury of conviction. I cant afford four years of tyranny. Trust me, I would love if Hillary had every position that Bernie has. But I live in the real world, and in the real world even if Hillary isnt 100 percent where I want her at least I trust that she will be better than Trump for the people I love.
(snip)
(boldface emphasis is mine - DMH)
(snip)
Im black, and I have four black sons. Some white liberals have the privilege to pretend that Jill Stein is going to be taken seriously. I dont. If Donald Trump wins, he's more likely to appoint judges that oppose Black Lives Matter and criminal justice reform, and who think that police officers who can kill black people without being charged already don't have enough power. That means if my kids get shot, the officers who did it would become less likely to be charged. A lot of white liberals dont understand that they have the privilege of a protest vote that will hurt the people they purport to stand for black people, immigrants, LGBTQ folks, and so many people who will be affected adversely if Trump wins.
If they stay home or vote for a third party particularly in swing states these folks are gambling with real lives. Because heres the reality: They wont be affected by the fallout. Their privilege will inoculate them to it, but minorities wont be. I dont understand how they could not see that.
So I dont have the luxury of conviction. I cant afford four years of tyranny. Trust me, I would love if Hillary had every position that Bernie has. But I live in the real world, and in the real world even if Hillary isnt 100 percent where I want her at least I trust that she will be better than Trump for the people I love.
(snip)
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)6. THIS. nt
DemonGoddess
(5,012 posts)4. Stein had no
place in our convention. She was an interloper and shit stirrer.