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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe U.S. can’t let Trump win: His victory would embolden the most hateful Americans...
The U.S. cant let Trump win: His victory would embolden the most hateful Americans who fostered his riseA victory for Trump would legitimize the dangerous, inchoate anger of unhinged Americans
BOB CESCA
Donald Trump is an existential threat to American democracy, and therefore he cant simply lose the election. He has to be electorally humiliated. Crushed. Embarrassed. The candidate who pledged so much winning has to be personally mortified by an unequivocal loss an electoral massacre so severe that it leaves little room for screeching about rigged elections, and, more importantly, the loss has to be so overwhelming that it discourages any similar would-be populist tyrants from emerging in the future. In a word, Trump and anyone similar needs to be politically put-down in a way that permanently ends whatever derangement led us to this point.
Sadly, however, the latest polls continue to indicate that the popular vote will come down to a five-point contest.
Mondays CBS News poll, taken following the conventions, puts the race at 47-41 (including leaners) in Hillarys favor. PPPs latest numbers also reflect a five-point race, even after all the hoopla surrounding the Democratic Convention; even after Hillarys historic nomination and President Obamas moving remarks; even after Michelle Obamas barnburner address and especially the salient remarks by Gold Star parents Khizr and Ghazala Khan. Its still just a five or six point race, even after the deeply contrasting conventions, and even after news about Trumps nefarious connections to Putin; even after Trump trolled the Khans on Twitter (as predicted by Hillary in her acceptance speech), and even after his utterly disastrous Palin-style interview with ABC News George Stephanopoulos on Sunday.
Five points separate Hillary and national oblivion. As Bernie Sanders said on Real Time with Bill Maher on Friday, Trump is easily the most treacherous presidential nominee in modern history, and yet theres really not much of a difference in the polls between his numbers and the numbers of previous GOP nominees, McCain and Romney.
It seems as though nothing will change the hearts and minds of Trumps rage-filled minion. And I suppose thats acceptable as long as enough sensible, rational Republicans choose to forego this election, either voting for Gary Johnson or Hillary Clinton, or by simply sitting it out. It cant be underscored enough how this election has to result in a party realignment, with moderate, reasonable Republicans voting with center-left and, yes, progressive Democrats to defeat this cancerous GOP nominee.
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The U.S. can’t let Trump win: His victory would embolden the most hateful Americans... (Original Post)
DonViejo
Aug 2016
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,212 posts)1. Good points raised by the article
However many over emphasize the popular vote numbers when it's the electoral college that determines the final outcome. Maybe it's intellectual laziness on the part of many writers/pundits to overlook what polls in each state portend for that count.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)2. I've been thinking about this for months.
Even if Trump loses, even if he is CRUSHED, his hateful minions will be emboldened and empowered to display the kind of overt racism, misogyny, bigotry, and homophobia that we haven't seen in many years (depending on the part of the country, obviously).