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uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 11:25 PM Aug 2016

"Hillary will imprison people of faith" I was told today. W.T.F?

They couldn't explain why they feared this, but they were very passionate about it. I have no idea what was meant. Any enlightenment beyond "they're paranoid nuts" is appreciated.

"That marriage thing made it so people can marry anything. A guy is suing to marry his computer." was easily countered with computers aren't adult humans, but the faith/prison thing had me stumped.

I was appalled to hear this from a fellow nurse. Seriously, wtf? People really surprise me sometimes.

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"Hillary will imprison people of faith" I was told today. W.T.F? (Original Post) uppityperson Aug 2016 OP
Preachers? librarylu Aug 2016 #1
Like herself (devout Methodist) Nonhlanhla Aug 2016 #2
Going to put them in the same FEMA caps as all the guns Obama took relayerbob Aug 2016 #3
It comes from the extreme Christian rightwing blogs. KMOD Aug 2016 #4
Thank you. It made no sense but came from somewhere. uppityperson Aug 2016 #6
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that KMOD Aug 2016 #15
And gay marry Glamrock Aug 2016 #17
of course. KMOD Aug 2016 #18
No, but it will let them marry whatever they want, like a computer. uppityperson Aug 2016 #20
Sigh. On abortion, uppityperson Aug 2016 #19
Yeah, it's still a tough battle UP. KMOD Aug 2016 #22
And it's those same RW Christians who call for persecution kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #9
Yup. KMOD Aug 2016 #16
+1, and vote for one of the most overtly racist persons running for president uponit7771 Aug 2016 #30
Osama and Saddam were best buddies too. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2016 #5
What variation of Christianity are they? Adsos Letter Aug 2016 #7
I am not sure, I'll ask. It took me aback that someone whose profession is based in science would uppityperson Aug 2016 #12
Trump is demented, the people that like him are lost causes. Rex Aug 2016 #8
I was told at a baby shower, of all places, recently Obama is instilling martial law herding cats Aug 2016 #10
When such ignorance is on display lapfog_1 Aug 2016 #29
I agree, we should call them out. herding cats Aug 2016 #42
Easy way to stop, or at least show up, that... whatthehey Aug 2016 #38
I love this idea! herding cats Aug 2016 #43
Tell them, "That's what Trump said about Muslims." Wounded Bear Aug 2016 #11
I did and guess what. Their cousin's daughter married a Muslim and there was no end of trouble from uppityperson Aug 2016 #14
Only these kind of "people of faith" are worried about it workinclasszero Aug 2016 #13
they read these things on the internet KT2000 Aug 2016 #21
They're paranoid nuts who think "Her" was a documentary. Garrett78 Aug 2016 #23
Landed on a website searching for this KT2000 Aug 2016 #24
Hillary is a devout Methodist obamanut2012 Aug 2016 #25
Right after Obama releases them from malaise Aug 2016 #26
We know that Hillary has been a Sunday School teacher, right? greymattermom Aug 2016 #27
So just smile and say whistler162 Aug 2016 #28
No, She will not! Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #31
Ask her why Hillary would lock herself up. Vinca Aug 2016 #32
She probably will HassleCat Aug 2016 #33
A cousin posted this on Facebook yesterday. She's an attorney. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2016 #34
Bakers and photographers who won't work at gay weddings oberliner Aug 2016 #35
It's really astounding, the depth of ignorance in America mountain grammy Aug 2016 #36
It's becoming more clear... Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #37
Kind of like Obama will take your guns. sinkingfeeling Aug 2016 #39
Good Lord, isn't she a devout Methodist? Odin2005 Aug 2016 #40
I heard it will be just those who vote for Trump. GeorgeGist Aug 2016 #41

librarylu

(503 posts)
1. Preachers?
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 11:39 PM
Aug 2016

I've heard everything from Obama's packing the cabinet with Muslims (he'd just appointed John Kerry) to all those mills in South Carolina closed because of Obama (they 'd been closed for years before he even took office) to the peace sign is the broken cross of Jesus - it's Satanic.

I know one out of three of those came from a southern preacher. I suspect the others did too.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
4. It comes from the extreme Christian rightwing blogs.
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 11:45 PM
Aug 2016

When she spoke at the Women of the World summit, she spoke of how structural bias in culture and religion needed to be changed.

From that statement some took it as she would persecute those who hold religious pro life beliefs.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
15. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 12:50 AM
Aug 2016

your coworker is pro life, and somehow believes that Hillary Clinton is going to force her and others to perform abortion procedures against her will.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
20. No, but it will let them marry whatever they want, like a computer.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 01:32 AM
Aug 2016

I had difficulty keeping up, but that one stood out. Aside from it not being allowed, "it might be".

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
19. Sigh. On abortion,
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 01:30 AM
Aug 2016

"our co-worker is younger than we are, does that mean her life is worth less?" while flinging hands in the air. That was that point I said we probably shouldn't discussed politics as we were strongly on opposite sides of the issues, so let's get back to work again, and did.



 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
22. Yeah, it's still a tough battle UP.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 01:47 AM
Aug 2016

I'm just grateful, that at least among my peers, even the women who would never choose abortion for their own personal reasons, understand that other women need to have the choice.


 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
9. And it's those same RW Christians who call for persecution
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 12:11 AM
Aug 2016

of Muslims without due process.

Projection is all these people do, 24/7. If they say blah blah is gonna happen because YOU are a bad person, rest assured blah blah is exactly what they have planned for you.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
12. I am not sure, I'll ask. It took me aback that someone whose profession is based in science would
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 12:34 AM
Aug 2016

think things like that.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
8. Trump is demented, the people that like him are lost causes.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 12:07 AM
Aug 2016

These are people that live in Bob Jones land. Black helicopters. Fluoride. NWO. Hulk Hogan.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
10. I was told at a baby shower, of all places, recently Obama is instilling martial law
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 12:29 AM
Aug 2016

Taking away everyone's guns and there won't even be an election.

I was needless to say speechless. The couple the shower was for are both millennials who work in the tech field for major corps in high end jobs. I know them well, they do not think like this. The person who said it was an aunt of theirs who is a RN. She's in her early 40's I think.

All I have to offer is some people would rather live in fear than learn:

A) the Constitution of the United States.

B) Basic civics.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
29. When such ignorance is on display
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 06:48 AM
Aug 2016

we need to start standing up and embarrassing people to their face.

Ask how those last 10 conspiracy theories worked out... staring with Jade Helm 15...

Or the UN takeover of our national parks...

Or...

All of these were supposed to usher in a period of martial law and mass arrests.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
42. I agree, we should call them out.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 12:33 PM
Aug 2016

All I did was smile and sayno he wasn't and that it was silly. Looking back on it I should have done a combination of what you say and what whatthehey says below.

Next time I'm going to tell them betting against these nutty conspiracy theories is my latest retirement plan. At the rate they're popping up, and proving to be false, I should be retired before I reach 50!

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
38. Easy way to stop, or at least show up, that...
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:43 AM
Aug 2016

"Wanna Bet? Right now let's bet (reasonable sum/prize in your circle) that the election happens as scheduled with no martial law. Let's shake on it right now in front of everyone."

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
43. I love this idea!
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 12:35 PM
Aug 2016

I think I'm going to print of some simple forms with blank spaces for the amount of the bet, the conspiracy theory type and the date it's supposed to be enacted by for them to sign. Just to drive the point home!

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
14. I did and guess what. Their cousin's daughter married a Muslim and there was no end of trouble from
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 12:40 AM
Aug 2016

young man!!!!

And about refugees? Have you seen the pictures??? Young and bodied men with minimal background checks!!! Their spouse (opposite gender of course, no marrying computers for them) picked some up for their church to help and there were very few women or children!!!

It was an amazing display of the rw talking points, but that people of faith in prison thing was a new one for me.



KT2000

(20,577 posts)
21. they read these things on the internet
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 01:44 AM
Aug 2016

I was told once that President Obama sold all our national parks to China. Turns out it was a hoax by Hal Turner (RW nutcase) that was picked up by many RW conspiracy sites as true. The story got worse with each website. I bet if you did a search you could find out the source.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
23. They're paranoid nuts who think "Her" was a documentary.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 01:52 AM
Aug 2016

Sorry, that's the best I can do.

Actually, they're simply the product of radical right wing rhetoric, including that which is spewed by their party's nominee for POTUS. The crazy things believed by large percentages of the US population is both laughable and depressing. Such as how more Louisiana Republicans blame Obama than blame the Bush Administration for the government's poor response to Hurricane Katrina. Or the number of folks who deny evolution, anthropogenic global warming, etc. And Young Earth Creationists, including people who have served on the US House Committee on Science, Space and Technology. Or the anti-vaccination peeps. Or the number of people who think Obama is a Kenya-born Muslim. Or the people who think the likes of Alex Jones are speaking the truth.

And I've witnessed it on this site, too. When Sanders won the Indiana primary, there was a thread about how there was no mention in the media that Sanders had won. Post after post agreed with the OP in spite of me pointing out that there was a headline about the Sanders victory on every major news source imaginable. People believe what they want to believe.

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
24. Landed on a website searching for this
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 01:59 AM
Aug 2016

and found a religious victim site that said Hillary Clinton wants people to abandon their faith. What she actually said was that cultural, religious traditions have to change for women to have free access to reproductive healthcare. (paraphrased) They do twist things to rile up their troops.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
31. No, She will not!
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 06:57 AM
Aug 2016

She's going to EAT them, silly!

They're much better when they're fresh. Keep em in a dungeon for a year and they get all gamey.

Mmmmmmmm.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,735 posts)
34. A cousin posted this on Facebook yesterday. She's an attorney.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:21 AM
Aug 2016

I didn't respond.

"Amazing, aren't they? They totally forget the record of Hilary Clinton - she is a known liar, an incompetent and as unfit as an elephant to be president. She has no business experience, the only political experience she has went down in disaster. I agree, what is wrong with the clueless, mindless masses. Are they that afraid of someone who knows how to run a business, handle money, make decisions . . ."
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
35. Bakers and photographers who won't work at gay weddings
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:28 AM
Aug 2016

I think that's the kind of thing they are talking about.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
36. It's really astounding, the depth of ignorance in America
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:32 AM
Aug 2016

and nearly all of it can be traced to religion, like this nonsense. I'm sure I know a few people who believe this. They've been waiting for 8 years for Obama to come and get them, now they think it's Hillary.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
37. It's becoming more clear...
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:34 AM
Aug 2016

... that evangelicals are the largest supporters of Trump.

It blows my mind given his background (and current behavior too), but he's said some things about abortion and other issues in recent months to win their favor.

Wow. There's a bunch of people in the world who are obviously terrified by the prospect of mortality. That's the only explanation that I can offer for belief in souls and the like.

EDIT: By the way, I don't necessarily resent people if that belief gives them comfort.

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