2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI think we just won the Senate...
We need net +4 (with Kaine as VP) or net +5
Wisconsin: Feingold +5
Pennsylvania: McGinty +8
New Hampshire: Hassan +10
Indiana: Bayh +21
madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)Response to brooklynite (Original post)
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(22,140 posts)Response to livetohike (Reply #3)
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livetohike
(22,140 posts)enthusiasm for Trump and the other Republicans when they see the polls with Hillary crushing him.
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livetohike
(22,140 posts)all I can here in PA. I want Tea Party Toomey gone and hoping Hillary's coat tails help clean up the mess .
MyOwnPeace
(16,926 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:25 AM - Edit history (1)
Toomey keeps trying to show that he's been "for the people" - not his $$$-giving lobbyists.
HA!
And here's a rather detailed account of who his $$$ buddies are, including his "A" that he earned from the NRA:
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2016/08/04/3805038/bloomberg-backs-toomey-despite-guns-marriage-climate/
Yeah, he "crossed" party lines twice - knowing that his "compromise" issues would not be passed by any of his other "righties!"
Makes him "look" like he cares while he knows full well it will cost him nothing!
WHAT A FRAUD!!!!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 4, 2016, 11:47 AM - Edit history (1)
and religiously and militarily unbalanced right wingers in office, not another cool-eyed Democrat.
Of course, this is a worst case of the kind of "bombs" that will drop during the next 3 months, even if things get amazing normal, but we need to be prepared for whatever happens.
Btw, Republican Pat Toomey could lose his house seat (!!!!), though Michael Bloomberg is supporting him. Toomey is an extreme social conservative corporatist on Right Wing Watch's list. Like Mike Pence, he also embodies the very useful fusion of religious morality and Dark-Money interests.
Zambero
(8,964 posts)Donald Trump's daily displays of instability and ignorance are occurring in real time, as opposed to dredged-up dated emails from someone that many consider to be a traitor and a criminal. If Assange wanted to dominate news cycles with his targeted revelations, he must be deeply disappointing that rapid-fire antics from the guy he wants to see defeating Hillary is not making that plot any easier.
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EV_Ares
(6,587 posts)picture. However, there are still way too many variables in this election & this only being August, that more could occur, both positive or negative for our candidate. So, way too early to be 100% confident at this point in the election.
That said, if all goes our way, I would bet on that tsunami you speak of going down ballot because of the presidential candidate, the popularity of our current President & I do not think the people are very pleased about the do-nothing republicans & all of their obstruction, especially not allowing President Obama's Supreme Court nominee to have hearings on the appointment.
The people have seen that the republicans are willing to put their ideology over the country even to the point of hurting it economically & in other ways. Personally, I think that is a change they want. Also, I think the republicans party platform is so extreme & the fact of where they are on social issues again is not where the country is.
So, I agree with you but for me, too soon to say it right now but I can't wait to be cheering on election night, turn over briefly to fox after the election is called for Clinton & announcing the Dems have retaken the senate. So want that all to happen.
Jade Fox
(10,030 posts)Right now it feels like 2008, when people started to realize what grotesquely unqualified nut Sarah Pallin is, and the wheels started to come off the McCain/Pallin ticket.
oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)in history with shocking upsets in House and state races. Work hard folks and make this happen.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)If the democratic party gains control of the congress and the white house this year!!
Hillary can fill the SCOTUS with good liberals and a new progressive era will dawn on this country!
After the devastation brought by Reagan and his acolytes democrats can build a new world for ALL Americans!
mucifer
(23,539 posts)that is where they are putting their money. It could work.
Johnny2X2X
(19,060 posts)The Koch brothers are sitting out the general election, they will not spend a penny to help Trump. But they are going to get involved in some key Senate and House races. But look for them to be very careful how they spend their money and what ads they run as to not in any way have these ads inadvertently help Trump. They absolutely hate him and think he's an existential threat to the Democracy.
mucifer
(23,539 posts)and horrible adds. That's their MO. Hit them hard at the end of the campaign with millions of dollars and the dems won't know what hit em.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Just like Rove did to John Kerry after Arafat died. Just like the Rethugs did to Max Cleland.
I hope the Dems have a plan to counter that.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)I'm thinking about traveling to Florida, since MD and VA are safely BLUE!
piechartking
(617 posts)Remember that we're defending many seats in 2018.
Fla Dem
(23,656 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)Kirkpatrick is +2 on McCain
BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)Herr Drumpf and thus appear on your list too!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/senate/oh/ohio_senate_portman_vs_strickland-5386.html
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)Portman is the worst. I hope Strickland can do it...hard to unseat a sitting Senator in a place like Ohio.
enough
(13,259 posts)mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)for their Senate candidate. He spoke at the RNC and is quite the fanatic. Not taking anything for granted, but looks like we'll hold on to our Senate seat.
fizzgig
(24,146 posts)i'm really interested in watching how the election plays out here this year.
shawn703
(2,702 posts)Hoping we can hold that one. I kind of think Illinois is likely to break our way too.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)VOTE!!!
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Nitram
(22,794 posts)It is far to easy to block everything in the Senate.
ALBliberal
(2,340 posts)the Democrats as well as fulfilled roles of ranking member)?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)as far as I know
longship
(40,416 posts)ALBliberal
(2,340 posts)is Senator Sanders included in our caucus?
He has always caucused with us. He sure ain't gonna side with the Republicans!
panader0
(25,816 posts)Marcuse
(7,479 posts)"Our number one priority is to ensure that Hillary Clinton is a one term President."
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)We have some huge positives for Murphy in this state and Rubio has been under attack.
1) Trump has fostered hate toward Rubio among Trumps base.
2) The last poll I saw has Murphy within 4. That is with Murphy really introducing himself to much of the state.
3) If Trump continues his current path I believe his turnout will be low, greatly benefiting Murphy.
4) Murphy is all in and spending money early. He is in GE mode and running positive commercials every day. Some PAC is regularly running negative Rubio ads.
5) Some other Republican I'm not familiar with is running ads as the pro-Trump and anti-Rubio candidate.
6) Murphy is breezing through his primary with little effort while taking very minimal damage.
This would be a huge grab.
lamp_shade
(14,831 posts)Motley13
(3,867 posts)Like Trump, that is all some people understand. Murphy has very little
There have been ads from Obama supporting Murphy in south FL, that should help.
Murphy needs to keep bringing up Rubio's attendance record.
If Hillary wins "bigly" hopefully it will carry down ballot.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Saw one just last night. Tampa Bay market. I'm not sure if it was Murphy himself or a PAC.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)He knows he is out and Murphy has been in GE mode. Grayson's campaign is irrelevant. It was clear early on he and his team were not competent in running for statewide office. His incompetence is going to give Murphy the united front he needs.
Motley13
(3,867 posts)HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)NO CELEBRATIONS!
NO GLOATING!
NO TAKING RETHUGS FOR GRANTED!
We still have a long way to go.
GOTV!!!
caraher
(6,278 posts)I did some searching and there is apparently just one poll, done by Democratic consultants, shortly before Bayh announced. That's the one where he's up by 21. I can't remember whether Trump had named Pence by then... but while we did give Obama a 1-point win in 2008, Romney wound up with a double-digit victory in 2012, and the main reason we have one Democratic senator is that the Murdock couldn't keep his mouth about his belief that rape babies are gifts from God.
Bayh has fantastic name recognition, which will go a long way, but this is also likely to be a Trump stronghold, so it's going to take some serious ticket-splitting for that kind of poll result to hold up. Most of the projection web sites still rate Indiana a toss-up, with good reason.
Trump is now praising Rubio.
Don't count on Ohio. Portman has ads against Strickland 10 to 1 and a huge war chest.
Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)Don't get excited by polls, go out and VOTE please
writes3000
(4,734 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)While polls are encouraging, we can't get complacent. Paul Ryan is still Speaker and can block any legislation that the senate passes. Plus we still have to get out the vote to elect Dems to state offices.
Fla Dem
(23,656 posts)SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)decided to sandbag Susan Rice. The North Remembers.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)That looks like it will be close. I'm hoping that the Trump effect will play a role in AZ, NV, IL, and OH as well.
vi5
(13,305 posts)Remember? As we've heard the past 8 years the only way we can get anything done is if we have 61 votes.
Also, the last thing one of the worst things that could happen is for Evan Bayh to be a key vote. It will end up being Nelson/Baucus/Lincoln all over again and we'll have to water every single bill down to get his precious vote.
Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)Fortunately, Illinois looks like a good bet for a pickup, too.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)throw in duckworth easily beating Kirk in Illinois and a possible pick up in Arizona....if McCain loses to the teaparty extremist
and hoping for 27-30 house seat flips which would give democrats congressional control
with gop in shatters, a very real possibility if we fight them for every vote in every district in every state.....trump ground came is largely non-existent at this point and the Koch brothers still appear to be shunning the donald
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,907 posts)I have been trying to find any poll on this race (I think the last one was back in April after the primary that had them tied).