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Related: About this forumVoting 3rd party is the electoral equivalent of sending thoughts and prayers
In a three way race, that does not mean the person who gets 34 percent is the president, nor in a four way race does it mean the person who gets 26 percent is president. Majority means more than half, not more than the others. In these latter two scenarios, the president would be decided by the Republican-led House of Representatives. Thats the law.
Which is why voting third party is mostly an empty gesture meant to telegraph a persons own virtue without actually involving real work. If Stein really wanted to do some progressive good or even pass her bonkers woo ideas, shed be a Democrat or at least an Independent who works with Democrats like Sanders. If Johnson actually cared about letting you smoke weed hassle-free, he should have done something about it when he was a Republican in actual power.
Nothing Stein or Johnson say matters. At all. Their platforms are meaningless because neither of them will ever be called to do any of it or have to answer for the promises that they made to voters. Theirs is a consequence-free existence. Politifact is never going to check them on the Johnsonmeter or the Steinmeter like they did for Barack Obama and will certainly do to whoever wins this long-ass trudge to the future of the country.
Saying, Im voting third party in an election year (side note: maybe get off your butts in the mid-terms once in a while?) is meant to portray someone as free-thinking or too personally virtuous to stain their hands with the evil that is the establishment candidate, whatever the heck that means. They arent sheep like the rest of us who do the popular thing. It makes the question of franchise about how good a person that particular voter appears. Its a matter of conscience, apparently, though I question the conscience of people who are that concerned about proving theyre smarter and better than all the rest of us.
Which is why voting third party is mostly an empty gesture meant to telegraph a persons own virtue without actually involving real work. If Stein really wanted to do some progressive good or even pass her bonkers woo ideas, shed be a Democrat or at least an Independent who works with Democrats like Sanders. If Johnson actually cared about letting you smoke weed hassle-free, he should have done something about it when he was a Republican in actual power.
Nothing Stein or Johnson say matters. At all. Their platforms are meaningless because neither of them will ever be called to do any of it or have to answer for the promises that they made to voters. Theirs is a consequence-free existence. Politifact is never going to check them on the Johnsonmeter or the Steinmeter like they did for Barack Obama and will certainly do to whoever wins this long-ass trudge to the future of the country.
Saying, Im voting third party in an election year (side note: maybe get off your butts in the mid-terms once in a while?) is meant to portray someone as free-thinking or too personally virtuous to stain their hands with the evil that is the establishment candidate, whatever the heck that means. They arent sheep like the rest of us who do the popular thing. It makes the question of franchise about how good a person that particular voter appears. Its a matter of conscience, apparently, though I question the conscience of people who are that concerned about proving theyre smarter and better than all the rest of us.
Much more at link- this is a great article: http://www.freepresshouston.com/voting-third-party-is-the-electoral-equivalent-of-sending-thoughts-and-prayers/
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Voting 3rd party is the electoral equivalent of sending thoughts and prayers (Original Post)
PeaceNikki
Aug 2016
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The folks who talk about how wonderful multiparty democracies are tend to forget...
brooklynite
Aug 2016
#4
onecaliberal
(32,873 posts)1. It's worse actually.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)2. Agreed.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)3. You're absolutely correct. It's a vanity vote.
brooklynite
(94,624 posts)4. The folks who talk about how wonderful multiparty democracies are tend to forget...
...that for national elections, they usually involve coalitions of Parties, either center-left or center-right. As long as Jill Stein and the Greens are going to insist on left-wing purity, they'll never have either electoral success or political clout.