2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI still think there's a 50/50 chance Trump is intentially trying to throw the election or
Is just plain crazy. You can only fake crazy for so long, and past history shows that he most likely has NPD (at least), so after the past couple weeks I'm leaning towards the latter. You?
TDale313
(7,820 posts)He'll have plenty of excuses ready why, of course. His ego won't allow for him to have lost fair and square- but honestly I don't believe he actually want to be President.
redStateBlueHeart
(265 posts)I'm really afraid his voters may riot in the streets
PatSeg
(47,586 posts)I am quite sure Trump never really wanted to be president, but he also hates losing. So the "rigged election" thing sounds like a preemptive defense of his well orchestrated loss.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)Trump is not psychotic - he doesn't have hallucinations or believe he's Jesus or that he is receiving messages through his fillings. Instead, he seems to have a personality disorder, which is a pattern of maladaptive behavior and thinking. He isn't faking. That extreme arrogance and narcissism is his personality, and according to people who have known him for years he seems to have been that way for his entire adult life. He is most definitely not trying to throw the election; he is obsessed with winning and with being "the best" at everything, which is typical of NPD. What we see is what he is. I think he really does want to be President in the sense that this would be proof of his "greatness," but he has no idea what the job entails, and he wouldn't do much of the day-to-day work anyhow.
LiberalFighter
(51,084 posts)ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)But why would anyone go through all that? Just for publicity??
tblue37
(65,487 posts)approval he gets from his rally crowds, and to the nonstop publicity he gets from the media. Even during a face-to-face WaPo interview, he stopped five times to watch TV, mainly to look at himself on TV and to comment on his high energy and success <emphasis added>:
http://www.mediaite.com/print/trump-pauses-washington-post-interview-five-times-to-watch-tv/
SNIP
RUCKER: Well, half the people in your rallies are veterans.
TRUMP: [Looks at the television again] Look at this. Its all Trump all day long. Thats why their ratings are through the roof. Id hate to say, Philip, if I wasnt running, the television networks would be doing less than half the business.
5.
TRUMP: I got more votes than anybody in the history of Republican politics. By millions. Dont forget. How about if I had two people in the race? The number wouldve been twice as good. In other words, people with 2 million people. Because the Republican party increased. [Trump looks at the TV.] That statements gotten a lot of play. I love that statement we wrote. So Im just not quite there yet.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)I think you're right on target. Thanks for your reply and the reference!!
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,857 posts)He's an attention whore. He was recently observed being distracted by watching himself on TV (with a big smile on his face) as someone tried to interview him.
Anyway, you might want to read this entire article sometime and not just the part that I cut and pasted.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all
He loved the attention, Schwartz recalls. If he could have had three hundred thousand people listening in, he would have been even happier.
This year, Schwartz has heard some argue that there must be a more thoughtful and nuanced version of Donald Trump that he is keeping in reserve for after the campaign. There isnt, Schwartz insists. There is no private Trump. This is not a matter of hindsight. While working on The Art of the Deal, Schwartz kept a journal in which he expressed his amazement at Trumps personality, writing that Trump seemed driven entirely by a need for public attention. All he is is stomp, stomp, stomprecognition from outside, bigger, more, a whole series of things that go nowhere in particular, he observed, on October 21, 1986.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)If I can stomach it, I will.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,857 posts)... that featured other biographers who didn't speak quite as harshly about him -- they didn't call him a sociopath -- but it was more of the same descriptions overall.
He's so incredibly unfit for the White House, it's scary. Thank goodness that he seems to be imploding!
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)I just wish we were closer to the election. Three months is an eternity-- in this case, anyway
KMOD
(7,906 posts)He's always been this way.
Signed,
Lifelong New York State resident
radical noodle
(8,013 posts)just as he's put it on buildings that he has absolutely nothing to do with. I'm sure he's planning to rename things after himself and his kids. So I think he wants to win although I don't think he wants to do the job. I don't think he has control of his reactions to criticism and will continue to lash out at anyone and everyone who doesn't think he is a genius. They will never be able to get him ready for a debate because he can't focus his attention on anything and instead looks at the bright shiny light overhead or watches TV while someone is talking to him. He has no morals, no conscience, and no redeeming social value. He's a bloated Cheeto with no soul.
redStateBlueHeart
(265 posts)"I'm sure he's planning to rename things after himself and his kids."
A hallmark of a dictator.
Wounded Bear
(58,706 posts)As long as Hillary and the Dems continue to run a good campaign, they will win, and we'll most likely flip the Senate and will have an outside shot at the House, too.
Donald has almost made himself irrelevant through his own actions, and I suspect there is no way he can make up for lost opportunities so far. The one thing I fear is an outside event that might tilt things unexpectedly. Other than that, we just need to do the ground work. With any luck, though, Donald is going down, and hopefully will drag substantial parts of the Repub party with him. Intentional or not, I'm all for it.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)It will be: "you see, you see what I did to stop these other crazies from getting hold of the Presidency?" We will all have Trump to thank for his own political meltdown .. because of course he did it on purpose. LOL He'll be wanting an Academy Award.