It doesn't matter what Trump MEANT. It matters what he SAID.

[pnwmom]

And, as Michael Hayden, former Bush CIA Director, pointed out today, it matters what others HEAR.

Wars have started over mistakes and misunderstandings. That's why Hillary's caution, her control, her "calculating" nature would be infinitely better suited for the office they are seeking.

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-second-amendment-hillary-clinton-comment-2016-8

It doesn't really matter what Trump meant. It matters what he said — a reckless comment that might or might not be outrageous, depending on your interpretation. This has happened over and over during the campaign, and it would happen, with much higher stakes, during his presidency.

What the president says matters. Presidents' comments can move markets, create policy, inflame foreign tensions, even start wars. It is therefore important that presidents be careful.

Donald Trump is incapable of being careful. His loose talk is not a mere personality quirk and it is not refreshing — it is a reason he cannot handle the job of the presidency.

[ecstatic]

1. Exactly. At best, he's too inarticulate to be president.

At worst, he's everything we've CLEARLY seen over the past several years.

[Chasstev365]

2. Oh, he knew dam well what he was doing:

Playing to the crazies, who actually mean it. Sickening!

[MichiganVote]

7. Sure did. Calculated and intended to be incendiary.

[RBInMaine]

14. Yup, just watch the video. He was talking about what they should do AFTER she got elected, and he

said it so glibly. He knew just what he was saying. He was inciting VIOLENCE AGAIN.

[uponit7771]

3. +1, Hillary thinks about what she says tRump is a half wit asshole who doesn't have to give a damn

[Doodley]

4. It was clear he said what he meant.

[MichiganVote]

8. Yup. No question.

[uppityperson]

5. K&r

[scscholar]

6. Why claim he didn't mean it?

Defending Trump?

[pnwmom]

12. I didn't. I said his intent was irrelevant. nt

[greyl]

9. They both matter, and his meaning is obvious.

He was throwing a bone to hard-core 2nd amendment people (some yearning for an excuse to take up arms against government) to get their vote, period.

edit: to be clear, he knew that audience would take it as his approval to kill judges, Hillary, whoever.

[MichiganVote]

10. I don't believe for a minute this was "loose talk", he knew exactly what he was saying.

[liberal N proud]

11. Yes, in world affairs, you don't get to Take back

[cheyanne]

13. We have to call out Trump when he walks back his derp and calls it a joke

TRUMP HAS NO SENSE OF HUMOR . . .he can't make a joke . . .

[NanceGreggs]

15. What matters ...

... is that Trump meant exactly what he said.

[pnwmom]

17. But even if he didn't, as he claims, that would be no excuse. His words are dangerous,

no matter what he did or didn't mean.

[NanceGreggs]

18. But he meant it.

It is what it is.

[Divine Discontent]

16. the man simply has no maturity, and thinks his wealth means he can say what he wants

Exactly, pnwmom, it's WHAT he said.

I have ventured over from my comfy confines of DU2, lol, just to post one quick agreement with y'all. Stop by sometime and say hi at DU2 where I keep the flame alive with an occasional post, feel free to post just to remember the ol' times! http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=latest_threads

I'm in agreement with others on here, let the GOP leave him in the nominee spot to ruin the down ticket, however, his speech is so dangerous at this point (it made me come over here to post mind you!) that I am concerned some nut will hear their marching orders


get it here -
http://www.cafepress.com/hillaryforamerica2016

[63splitwindow]

19. EXCELLENT point!

[canetoad]

20. It matters what

his idiot followers HEARD.

[DemonGoddess]

21. Exactly

He KNEW what he said was inciting some to violence.