Good grief I hope that the Clinton Foundation is on the up and up

[UMTerp01]

I really don't need this story about Hillary's emails and the Clinton foundation to get any legs. We are in a really good stride here and any sort of pay for play related to that foundation could unravel this momentum and highlight the trust issues. Even if its a non story, the media will play it up and the lingering questions will be there. Hopefully there's not even a hint that something could have been inappropriate.

[stopbush]

1. Just shows that the RWNM has no imagination.

They've latched onto emails as being something they can use to bash Hillary. They're the hammer in search of a nail. I fully expect them to pivot at some point and declare that emails are inherently evil.

[OKNancy]

2. there won't be. like all the other bull....

past crap has been debunked. I'm sure this will be too.
Also from what I can tell the emails are not to or from Hillary

[YvonneCa]

41. CGI Mission and Commitments at..

...their website:
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-global-initiative/about-us/commitments-action

[Snotcicles]

61. Not Rajiv K. Fernando. How soon we forget.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-donor-sensitive-intelligence-board/story?id=39710624

[MFM008]

3. It couldnt be because

the "MSM" needs something on HRC to bring this race to a TIE again could it?
This shit comes from Larry Klayman, the guy who is suing her on behalf of that woman who personally blames
her for her sons death and making "defamatory" statements against her and some other woman.
Larry Klayman who sued his own mother.
The same guy who has been after them since Whitewater.
EMAILS of any kind = I still dont give a SHIT about EMAILS.

[mercuryblues]

45. yougave me a great idea

I am pretty sure many of us get Hillary emails. I think we should all forward them to Klayman. if 100,500 or a 1000 of us email him at least 10 emails a day for a week.

[piechartking]

4. I hope there's nothing to it too

From what I can see, there's very little chance of anything criminal. Mostly just some ethics-related bullshit. Anyway, probably won't be able to pin anything criminal on them, but depending on what comes out, the optics could look bad, and Trump's goons will try to pump as much mileage out as they can.

[glennward]

8. Hillary didn't do "all this shit". Staff made some contacts...nothing different that usual. Optics

are bad. Hillary had nothing to do with the Foundation while she was Sec. of State.

[piechartking]

12. I edited it earlier, because you're right, I don't know what, if anything, she did.

I doubt she's dumb enough to get herself involved in something criminal. It's just those fucking Republicans always connect these imaginary dots and their dumbass followers lap it up.

[brush]

31. The Clintons are not stupid. As high-profile are they are and as many investigations . . .

they have been subjected to, they would not do anything illegal as far as the foundation is concerned as they know the repugs are constantly looking for something damaging to pin on them.

[bonemachine]

87. "ethics-related bullshit"

[relayerbob]

5. They just received a A and 89% of funding goes to the causes

I'd say that's pretty damn good

[riversedge]

42. yes pretty damn good

[Laura PourMeADrink]

48. Where did you get that information? Link? Because I just heard Rudy tell all

the Fox world that the CF only has 10% going to charity. You can say it doesn't matter - but WTH...why can't they come closer to the truth

[csziggy]

50. Charity Watch is one rating group for charities

The Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation gets an A rating.
Program Percentage : 88 %; 12% to overhead
Cost to Raise $100 : $ 2
https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-foundation/478

The Clinton Foundation is among the top in PEACE & INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS: https://www.charitywatch.org/top-rated-charities

Many of these critics only look at the money given out by the foundation for grants - and the Clinton Foundation doesn't distribute much money in that way. Most of their money is spent directly on programs administered by the foundation:

Where Does Clinton Foundation Money Go?
By Robert Farley
Posted on June 19, 2015 | Corrected on June 19, 2015
<SNIP>
Simply put, despite its name, the Clinton Foundation is not a private foundation — which typically acts as a pass-through for private donations to other charitable organizations. Rather, it is a public charity. It conducts most of its charitable activities directly.
<SNIP>
Craig Minassian, chief communications officer for the Clinton Foundation, said the Clinton Foundation is “an implementer.”

“We operate programs on the ground, around the world, that are making a difference on issues ranging from poverty and global health to climate change and women’s and girls’ participation,” Minassian told us via email. “Many large foundations actually provide grants to the Clinton Foundation so that our staff can implement the work.”

Asked for some examples of the work it performs itself, the Clinton Foundation listed these:

Clinton Development Initiative staff in Africa train rural farmers and help them get access to seeds, equipment and markets for their crops.
Clinton Climate Initiative staff help governments in Africa and the Caribbean region with reforestation efforts, and in island nations to help develop renewable energy projects.
Staff at the Clinton Health Access Initiative, an independent, affiliated entity, work in dozens of nations to lower the cost of HIV/AIDS medicine, scale up pediatric AIDS treatment and promote treatment of diarrhea through life-saving Zinc/ORS treatment.
Clinton Health Matters staff work with local governments and businesses in the United States to develop wellness and physical activity plans.
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/

The article goes into some depth analyzing where and how the Clinton Foundation spends it's money and why the critics are willfully ignoring and distorting the facts.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

63. Thank you for standing in for the poster. Yes, been digging into today

as well. Must have been a momentary lapse of them to structure their organization in a way where the repukes could characterize the organization as low on % to charity. Amazed no pushback, cogent defense. Time now to do that?

[Hekate]

70. [phone]. Thank you.

[relayerbob]

98. Thanks

[relayerbob]

97. Right here

Oops it was 88% not 89%

https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-foundation/478

[JaneyVee]

6. Can I get a link?

[Bungalowgal]

49. A Link

https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings-and-metrics/bill-hillary-chelsea-clinton-foundation/478

[artyteacher]

7. decades of bs continues.... eom

[Sanity Claws]

9. Is this what is known as concern trolling?

[jehop61]

11. BINGO!

Hit it on the head.

[cwydro]

13. Let's see if it withstands a jury.

I didn't alert, but someone did.

[Sanity Claws]

14. If it is hidden, it will be my first hide ever

I don't think I have ever been alerted on before either.
Maybe I'm getting bolder as the years go by. Maybe the trolling is getting more obvious.

[cwydro]

23. No not your post

There was an alert on the op.

Sorry I wasn't clear.

[NWCorona]

44. How can you tell if a thread has been alerted? I always wondered that.

[cwydro]

46. I was on the jury.

That's the only reason I knew.

As far as I know, that's the only way anyone would know.

[NWCorona]

47. That's what I figured but was curious. Thanks for the reply!

[misterhighwasted]

16. We'll be seeing more "concern" here..maybe concern trolling should have its own forum

Clear the 2016 forum for the Hillary First Woman President Revolution happening .

[KMOD]

24. yes.

[obamanut2012]

55. yes

[uponit7771]

77. +1

[kennetha]

10. So the personal assistant

to President Clinton, who had formerly worked for the Foundation, writes an e-mail asking if a certain rich dude, who had given to the foundation, could be put in touch with the "substance" person on Lebanon at the state department.

Hilary's aid, gives the name of the substance person, and points out that said person is the Ambassador to Lebanon.

And this is supposed to be a scandal?

[LAS14]

19. Thanks for this. I love clarity! nt

[sarae]

27. It's such a non-scandal that it's laughable.

How can the news report this with a straight face??

[enid602]

59. no, this is 'Merca.

Here in 'Merca, having sex in airport bathrooms, diddling adolescent wrestlers and partying with prostitutes while wearing diapers are non scandals. Anything involving the Clintons is a scandal.

[Motley13]

15. They have done a lot to decrease AIDS in Africa

Gates Foundation has contributed to it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/10/pro-trump-ad-suggests-clinton-foundation-donations-contributed-to-clintons-net-worth/

[bettyellen]

60. On my trip to Tanzania soo many people brought up theClintons work there....

How they visit often and have town halls and find new ways to support the health, the livelihoods and and future of the people there. It really turned my head, hearing that.

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. Transparent

Do a better job at this.

[UMTerp01]

18. NO this isn't a "troll" concerning post

Good grief. We all know how the media spins things to make it seem worse than it is. I'm simply bringing up the point that there was nothing to Benghazi but look at how it has stuck to her. All I'm saying is that I don't want anything found that the media can possibly spin to wreck this momentum. Good grief some of the paranoia is ridiculous. Lets not act like trust isn't an issue that has dogged Hillary, most of it completely unfounded I will say. I'm a worry wart. I don't want anything screwing up Trump burying himself.

[LAS14]

20. I support an environment where we can ask for clarity...

.. without being accused of being trolls!!

[pnwmom]

39. They have spent 35 years throwing mud at her, hoping something will stick. This is just some dust

and it won't stick.

[csziggy]

53. It takes seconds to access the information online to disprove these claims

Get the truth, confront those who perpetrate the lies and distortions, especially the media that delights in spreading Republican lies. That does more good than being worried about what effect the lies will have.

If all you do in your concern is to repost the lies without looking for the facts, you are part of the problem. If you need help finding the truth, ASK FOR HELP.

[creeksneakers2]

56. I agree with you

Anything that has to do with documents being disclosed drives the media wild. They'll back up any lie just to get an E-mail story. That whole thing about the DNC was garbage. There isn't a single E-mail that showed any attempt by the DNC to influence the outcome of the election. It was just talk between themselves or plans to defend against Bernie's smears. Even NPR and MSNBC lied about what was in the E-mails.

[zappaman]

21. It's concerning!

[joshcryer]

22. With the assassination flap the MSM needed something to even the score.

So they are yet again drudging up faux Clinton scandals.

Otherwise they would be spending the entire week talking about what a douche Trump is and they would have to do actual journalism.

[onehandle]

25. Oh noes! nt

[sarae]

26. Why are we never able to pick apart Republican's emails?

FYI, this is how Judicial Watch obtained the Clinton Foundation emails, according to a CNN article:

The emails were obtained by the group through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch against the State Department in 2015.

I'm tired of these parasitic RW groups obsessively monitoring everything Dems do.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

32. On what basis? so anyone can ask for anyone else's emails? If everyone

everywhere should learn from all of this - is to never ever put anything you don't want the world to see in an email. ever.

I agree with you - let's ask for that creepy Trey Gowdy's emails. Or, perhaps someone who might have written something jucier...

[sarae]

33. I'm sure Hillary probably

goes over her emails with a finetooth comb now, but that wouldn't have mattered anyways in this instance. The Clinton Foundation emails were between people who worked for her – nothing to do with her at all. Yet they're still finding a way to blame her...

Yeah, I'm sure if you went through Trey Gowdy, or Jason Chaffetz's emails, you'd find a treasure trove of ugly stuff.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

28. It's probably more of the same "boy crying wolf" crap from right wingers.

Funny how so many conservatives repeatedly come running to see the wolf that's not there!

I'm still sickened by the disinformation about a paltry amount of the CF donations going to charity. That's utter BS that was dreamed up by right wing propagandists by focusing on tax records that don't tell the whole story.

They're REALLY good at that stuff. Present some misleading information that SEEMS to have some truth to it, but which crumbles if anyone makes the effort to really dig into it. It gets tiresome for me after awhile.

[immoderate]

29. AFAIK the Clinton Foundation is chartered to build Bill's Library.

So technically they operate outside the law.

--imm

[sinkingfeeling]

34. Where do you get such garbage info?

[immoderate]

36. Couldn't find my original source, but here's a summary of the charter.

Unless you can find some better info.
https://www.citizenaudit.org/organization/311580204/BILL%20HILLARY%20&%20CHELSEA%20CLINTON%20FOUNDATION/

--imm

[sinkingfeeling]

37. Doesn't say a word about operating outside the law.

[immoderate]

38. So?

--imm

[csziggy]

51. The Little Rock office of the Clinton Foundation is housed in the complex

That includes the William F. Clinton Library.

The Clinton Presidential Library and Museum is located within the Clinton Presidential Center and Park. The Center includes the Clinton Foundation (Little Rock office) and the University of Arkansas Clinton School of Public Service.
https://www.clintonlibrary.gov/about/

The money to build the complex was raised by the Clinton Foundation:

Preliminary planning for the library (including the site choice) began in 1997, while groundbreaking for the complex occurred on December 5, 2001.[4][5][11][12] Early estimates put the library's cost at about $125 million.[4] In 2001, the Clinton Foundation hoped to gather $200 million in donations to cover project costs.[13] In the end, the entire project cost $165 million in private funding, with an additional $11.5 million of land given by the city of Little Rock to construct and covers 152,000 square feet (14,100 m2) within a 28 acres (110,000 m2) park.[8][9]

Fund-raising for the center was led by Terry McAuliffe, a friend of Clinton's who had also contributed heavily[citation needed] to the Clinton-Gore campaign in 1995. Clinton himself was prohibited by law from personally soliciting donations for the center, but he did host private events relating to the library. There were no other legal restrictions on donations, and the Clinton Foundation was able to accept unlimited private donations, all of which were tax deductible.[4] Approximately $10 million of contributions came from Saudi Arabia.[14] However, the Clinton Foundation declined to release a full donor list, similar to the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library (although the foundation later agreed to disclose the top 150 donors to the House Government Reform Committee).[15] Donations exceeding $1 million were also given from various other foreign governments (such as Kuwait and Taiwan), as well as foreign individuals. Various American organizations also contributed millions of dollars to the foundation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Presidential_Center#History

I'm not sure what you think makes this "technically they operate outside the law" as you put it above. The information is all public knowledge, as it has been from the first. As indicated in the quote above the fund raising was similar to what has been done for other presidential libraries.

[immoderate]

67. When they stick to the library, papers, artifacts, etc., they are within the law.

Those are things they are chartered to do.

--imm

[csziggy]

80. The Clinton Presidential Library and Museum are a part of the Foundation

They have different scopes of interests and responsibilities. As I quoted above, the physical location that includes the Clinton Library also houses the Arkansas offices of the Clinton Foundation.

That is not outside the scope of either the library or the foundation.

The Clinton Foundation has expanded their work in various areas as needs are identified. They have founded additional foundations to do specific tasks:

The William J. Clinton Presidential Center & Park, located on the banks of Arkansas River in Little Rock, Arkansas, attracts hundreds of thousands of visitors from around the world to its grounds each year.

Opened in 2004, the Center is home to the William J. Clinton Presidential Library and Museum, the University of Arkansas Clinton School of Public Service, and the Little Rock offices of the Clinton Foundation.

The Center also plays an active role in the Little Rock community, hosting a number of events, lectures, and conferences throughout the year. The Center was instrumental in catalyzing $3.3 billion in economic impact in the downtown areas of Little Rock and North Little Rock, including renovations of the nearby historic River Market district.
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-presidential-center/about/overview

From 2002 to 2010, as an initiative of the Clinton Foundation, 4 million patients were able to access CHAI-negotiated ARV drugs and as of today, CHAI’s work, as a separate 501(c)(3), has over 11.5 million patients accessing treatment.

The Clinton Health Access Initiative, Inc. (CHAI) was founded in 2002 with a transformational goal: help save the lives of millions of people living with HIV/AIDS in the developing world by dramatically scaling up antiretroviral treatment. When CHAI was founded, many viewed this goal as unreasonable because health systems in poor countries were too weak and prices of relevant drugs and diagnostic tests were too high. CHAI played a leadership role, working alongside governments and other partners, to lower the costs of treatment and help build the in-country systems necessary to provide lifesaving treatment to millions of people. Since then, CHAI has pursued several similarly ambitious goals, from scaling up pediatric AIDS treatment in order to achieve equity with adults in a time frame few thought possible, to rapidly accelerating the rollout of new vaccines. CHAI became a separate, affiliated entity in 2010.
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/our-work/clinton-health-access-initiative

By improving health and well-being today, we can help millions of people enjoy a healthier tomorrow.

The Clinton Health Matters Initiative (CHMI) works to improve the health and well-being of all people by activating individuals, communities, and organizations to make meaningful contributions to the health of others. CHMI’s goals are to reduce the prevalence of preventable health outcomes and close health inequity and disparity gaps by improving access to key contributors to health for all people.
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/our-work/clinton-health-matters-initiative

By creating public and private sector partnerships of purpose, we're proving that measures to fight climate change can also grow economies.

Building on President Clinton’s longstanding commitment to the environment, the Clinton Climate Initiative develops scalable projects that can be tailored to local conditions while also serving as innovative models for tackling global climate change. This approach helps provide real-world demonstrations of how we can cut emissions while compressing the timeframe for delivering real progress.
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/our-work/clinton-climate-initiative

Healthy kids have higher attendance rates, higher test scores, and behave better in class.

The Alliance for a Healthier Generation, founded by the American Heart Association and the Clinton Foundation, works to reduce the prevalence of childhood obesity and to empower kids to develop lifelong, healthy habits. The Alliance works with schools, companies, community organizations, healthcare professionals and families to transform the conditions and systems that lead to healthier children.
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/our-work/alliance-healthier-generation

CDI's mission is to catalyze economic empowerment through agribusiness development. With access to high-quality inputs, agronomic knowledge and markets, more than 105,000 farmers in Malawi, Rwanda, and Tanzania are increasing their yields and incomes.

The Clinton Development Initiative (CDI) develops and operates agribusiness projects that empower smallholder farmers to increase their economic potential. In Malawi, Rwanda, and Tanzania, CDI integrates commercial farms and other agribusinesses with agricultural extension and outreach to increase farmers' access to local markets and enable them to participate equitably in those markets. CDI's model puts farmers first by increasing their access to knowledge, inputs, and services to improve their crop yields and increase and diversify their incomes. Focusing on agricultural market development, sustainability and efficiency, CDI's goal is to work itself out of a job. CDI collaborates with governments, nongovernmental organizations, the private sector, social investors, and farmer organizations.
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/our-work/clinton-development-initiative

The Clinton Giustra Enterprise Partnership (CGEP) is pioneering an innovative approach to poverty alleviation. As impact entrepreneurs, CGEP creates new enterprises to generate both social impact and financial returns by addressing existing market gaps in developing countries’ supply or distribution chains. CGEP works to provide underserved communities access to markets, jobs, and training by incorporating individuals into one of three market-driven models – Distribution Enterprises, Supply Chain Enterprises, and Training Center Enterprises. Through these models, CGEP seeks to help people work themselves out of poverty.
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/our-work/clinton-giustra-enterprise-partnership

The mission of the Clinton Global Initiative is to turn ideas into action.

Established in 2005 by President Bill Clinton, the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI), an initiative of the Clinton Foundation, convenes global leaders to create and implement innovative solutions to the world's most pressing challenges. CGI Annual Meetings have brought together 190 sitting and former heads of state, more than 20 Nobel Prize laureates, and hundreds of leading CEOs, heads of foundations and NGOs, major philanthropists, and members of the media. To date, members of the CGI community have made more than 3,500 commitments which have improved the lives of over 430 million people in more than 180 countries.
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-global-initiative/about-us/cgi-mission

Each of these organizations are separate but under the umbrella of the Clinton Foundation. Each would have their own charter designating what they are supposed to do.

The Clinton Foundation is not restricted to just managing the Clinton Library. Their role in the world has expanded and the foundation does a lot of wonderful work all over the world.

[immoderate]

92. Wow! I appreciate your work here.

And I take note that CHIA, one of the subsidiaries, became a separate 501c(3) in 2010. On the same site, they don't mention that distinction for any of the other subsidiaries.

Have you noticed how few families are more powerful than the Clintons?
Again, I thank you for going what I would say is 'above and beyond'...

--imm

[csziggy]

93. You're welcome - As for the tax status of each entity, you just have to dig a little

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/about/annual-financial-reports

On that page is a link to the IRS determination of the 501c(3): https://www.clintonfoundation.org/sites/default/files/clinton_foundation_irs_determination_letters_1998_and_2002.pdf

Clinton Global Initiative:

From 2005 to 2009 the Clinton Global Initiative was an initiative of the Foundation. From 2010 to 2013, CGI operated as a separate but affiliated non-profit organization as part of an agreement between the Foundation and the Obama Administration. During this period, the Foundation continued to consolidate CGI's finances into its annual financial reporting. CGI's application for tax-exempt status (IRS Form 1023) and the IRS’s response granting tax-exempt status are available here:

CGI 1023

CGI IRS Determination Letter

In 2013, CGI ceased operating as a separate entity and resumed operating as an initiative of the Clinton Foundation.

Clinton Health Access Initiative

The Clinton Health Access Initiative (formerly the Clinton HIV/AIDS Initiative) has been incorporated as a separate, but affiliated, non-profit organization since 2010. Because of this ongoing affiliation, the Clinton Foundation is required to consolidate CHAI's finances into the Foundation's audited financial reporting. Further information related to the Clinton Health Access Initiative can be found here

[immoderate]

95. You have convinced me that I have no reason to call the Foundation illegal.

I won't do that any more.

--imm

[msanthrope]

64. What "law" do they operate outside of? nt

[immoderate]

66. Whatever "law" says that a 501c(3) has to operate under its charter.

Are you asserting there is none?

--imm

[Adrahil]

75. Do you believe all the CF are under that original charter!?

They aren't. The "Clinton Foundation" is actually a collection of multiple organizations, operating under different charters...

[immoderate]

79. If there is more than one 501c(3), or it's been amended, I haven't found it yet.

--imm

[csziggy]

81. You certainly didn't look for it. The information I posted above was available

At the Clinton Foundation website. It took seconds to locate it and only minutes for me to post the relevant information with links to this thread.

Please spend more time researching and less time repeating smears.

[immoderate]

83. Where is the 501c(3) for the 'Initiative?'

I couldn't find it. At least googling didn't bring it up.

--imm

[csziggy]

84. Which "Initiative" - there are several different ones

Edited to add - there are FIVE Initiatives, a Partnership and an Alliance. They are each separate entities.

I am not sure if the original charters are public information but you can find out a lot more about the various entities at http://www.guidestar.org/Home.aspx

In order to get all the details (some of which are available free from GuideStar; some you have to be a paid member) you have to register. When you register you can look at the financial information on Forms 990 for 2014, 2013 and 2012. Maybe that satisfy you.

Every bit of the information I have provided links to is easily located. Somehow you don't seem to be interested in really researching anything.

I am not interested enough to register to answer your questions. Why don't you do it, find the information you are seeking and let us know what you find?

[immoderate]

89. So far, we agree that 501c(3) information is not readily available.

--imm

[csziggy]

91. I have not stated that - I am however bored with doing YOUR research

If you are so concerned, LOOK IT UP YOURSELF.

Your original contention was that the Clinton Foundation was "chartered to build Bill's Library" and "technically they operate outside the law."

The link you provided disproves you claims that the sole goal of the Clinton Foundation was/is to build/support the Clinton Library:

Classification:
Nonprofit type: 501(c)(03)
.......................Charitable Organization
Organization Type: Corporation
Foundation Description: Organization which receives a substantial part of its support from a governmental unit or the general public 170(b)(1)(A)(vi)
Exempt Description: Public Health Program (Includes General Health and Wellness Promotion Services)
Exempt Broad Description: E Health - General and Rehabilitative
Activities: Described in section 170(b)1)(a)(vi) of the Code
Library
Other Purposes and Activities
Cultural, Historical of Other Educational Activities
https://www.citizenaudit.org/organization/311580204/BILL%20HILLARY%20&%20CHELSEA%20CLINTON%20FOUNDATION/

The "Activities" section of that description is covered by this portion of the IRS code:

7.26.3.1.3 (11-19-1999)
Types of IRC 170(b)(1)(A)(vi) Organizations

1. The types of organizations generally contemplated to fall under the IRC 170(b)(1)(vi) "publicly supported" category include:

A. publicly or governmentally supported museums, libraries, community organizations that promote the fine arts,

B. American Red Cross, United Way and

C. other organizations that receive a significant part of their support form government grants and/or contributions from the general public. Reg. 1.170A–9(e)(1).
https://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-026-003.html

Apparently you never read the link that YOU provided. Or maybe you just have a problem with reading comprehension.

[immoderate]

94. Well, I'm bored too.

I guess I acknowledge that there some 'elasticity' to what you cite. I mean I cited.

I think there are conflicts here that demand vigilance.

--imm

[Squinch]

30. OMG! The right wing is saying something bad about Hillary! She'll never survive it!

When do we stop falling for this shit? It's tiresome.

[cilla4progress]

35. Have never been a big fan of

Huma Abedin... Too many Hillary devotees do her more harm than good. And Hillary seems to have a blind spot where loyalty is concerned.

[MohRokTah]

40. Your concern concerning this concern is concerning. eom

[apnu]

43. Have any of these scandals ever had actual legs?

Travelgate? Whitewater? Vince Foster? Benghazi? "Rigging" the election?

Not one of them have amounted to anything but republicans wadding their panties.

[apcalc]

52. I trust Hillary.

I'm paying no attention at all to this story.

[democrattotheend]

54. I'm not too worried about it

From the headline it looked bad but when I read the actual story it didn't seem like there was anything untoward. Unless I missed something, all the article really said was that people who gave to the foundation were sometimes recommended for positions at State. There was nothing showing that the people sending those e-mails even knew that the individuals discussed were Foundation donors, let alone evidence of any quid pro quo.

I feel pretty confident there was no conflict or wrongdoing because President Obama would not have allowed it. The potential for conflicts with the Clinton Foundation was one of the issues he and Hillary worked out when he offered her the SOS job.

That said, I am annoyed at the headlines which makes it look a lot worse than it was. Unfortunately, because Hillary can't seem to shake the perception that she is not trustworthy, every little thing like this probably hurts a little.

[BlueStateLib]

57. Clinton Campaign Response

[LAS14]

78. Where does this come from? Web site? Twitter? E-mail? Thanks. nt

[BlueStateLib]

90. cnn screen capture

[pnwmom]

58. It is. And its records are public and have been audited. But there are people who will

twist anything.

Don't forget what they did to John Kerry. He was a true hero and by the time they got done with him, he was a fake and a coward.

We all need to get informed. For instance, I learned today about the Clinton Foundation's Global Initiative. It turns out that it is basically a networking club that members pay $20,000 a year to join. And all these hotshots get together in conferences and meet each other and make contacts. The large monetary "commitments" they make aren't to the Clinton Foundation. They are to the specific projects in their own countries that they commit themselves to carry out -- projects that fall within the goals of the Initiative (like projects related to global warming, for example).

So one of the people in those emails was said in some media report to have pledged a billion to the Global Initiative. What he had really done was announce that he was going to be carrying out a major infrastructure project in Lagos, and that he was going to be investing a billion dollars in it. But he wasn't paying a dime to the Global Initiative.(Other than his $20K membership fee.) The members there just use each other for advice, connections, etc. as they all go about their independently funded projects.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1547158

[immoderate]

68. I'm relieved to know that CFGI is merely a billionaire's club, where they can confer on

philanthropic projects.

--imm

[pnwmom]

71. Then you will be sad to hear that the membership isn't restricted to billionaires, although some

very wealthy philanthropists are members.

The idea was to put some very smart people (including Nobel Prize laureates) together with politically powerful people, heads of foundations and philanthropists, all working to solve important problems.

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-global-initiative/membership/frequently-asked-questions

WHO ARE CGI MEMBERS?

CGI is a results-oriented community of companies, NGOs, foundations, and governmental organizations. Although CGI members come from different backgrounds and share different points of view, they are united by their shared commitment to building a strong, sustainable global community.

Since 2005, CGI Annual Meetings have convened more than 190 sitting and former heads of state, 21 Nobel Prize laureates, and hundreds of leading CEOs, heads of foundations and NGOs, major philanthropists, and prominent members of the media.

[Hekate]

72. IF you ever want to do your research, perhaps your bitterness will be alleviated.

As it is, I don't know what else anybody can do to inform you when your mind is so clearly made up.

[immoderate]

86. "Information" might inform me. Speculating on my motivations will produce nothing.

But its sounding like, "if your prayers are unanswered, it because you're not praying hard enough."

So far, I am finding lots of Form 990 filings, and from associated foundations. There are charters in various states, which point back to the Clinton Foundation. The one chartered to build a library.

I am always happy to receive information. Psychoanalysis, -- not so much.

--imm

[randome]

62. IT'S WATERGATE ALL OVER AGAIN! AGAIN!!!!!!

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[msanthrope]

65. You seem concerned. Please feel free to share more of your concerns and enjoy your stay. nt

[Hekate]

69. When you read s**t about the Clintons, CONSIDER THE SOURCE. ALWAYS.

That is all.

[jambo101]

73. Hillary is the most qualified for the job.

Ignore anything coming from the right its all BS and embellished tempest in teapots.
The right have come down with a collective dementia/psychosis thats conspiring to destroy the country.

[Maru Kitteh]

74. Oh Gaaad! I hope UMTerp01 hasn't been eaten by angy sea bass with lasers on their heads!

We all have stupid fears, once in a while, right?

[bullimiami]

76. The Clinton Foundation is solid. The Trump Foundation is a slush fund.

That's where the investigations need to be looking.

[BlueMTexpat]

82. It is. eom

[NHDEMFORLIFE]

85. This is really a great sign

The GOP understands that the only way it can limit the damage on Election Day is to throw everything they can possibly come up with against the proverbial wall and see what, if anything, can stick.
Ratcheting this up in mid summer shows that they literally have nothing left that they can do. They know they are cooked in the presidential race and are trying to clip Hillary's coattails.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

88. My thoughts on all these investigations

"God knows, if I had $30 million, I could find dirt on you, sir."

[farleftlib]

96. Here's hoping (eom)