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Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:16 AM

 

Hillary should hold more press conferences.

She has a trust deficit and the opinion that she isn't transparent and is too "closed off", is widespread. Yes, she held one recently; the first of 2016. Yes, she's running ahead of Trump. But I believe holding a couple of press conferences in the fall could help her address the likability, trust and transparency issues.

Even winning, no President wants to enter office with a majority thinking that the new President isn't trustworthy or transparent. Not Trump isn't a way to start off.

Speak directly to the American people. Yes, she'd get annoying questions, but she can deal with those. I think the upside to holding a couple of press conferences is greater than the downside.


Note: Alert if you wish, but this is what is known as constructive criticism. And Skinner has expressly allowed that.

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Reply Hillary should hold more press conferences. (Original post)
cali Aug 2016 OP
FSogol Aug 2016 #1
cali Aug 2016 #3
Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #27
R B Garr Aug 2016 #39
Hortensis Aug 2016 #80
cali Aug 2016 #87
synergie Aug 2016 #100
NastyRiffraff Aug 2016 #90
Hortensis Aug 2016 #92
politicaljunkie41910 Aug 2016 #93
NastyRiffraff Aug 2016 #95
Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #104
Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #103
politicaljunkie41910 Aug 2016 #120
Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #121
Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #10
UMTerp01 Aug 2016 #52
highprincipleswork Aug 2016 #61
synergie Aug 2016 #101
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Highway61 Aug 2016 #107
FSogol Aug 2016 #111
Highway61 Aug 2016 #113
Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #117
SheriffBob Aug 2016 #2
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glennward Aug 2016 #4
cali Aug 2016 #7
NurseJackie Aug 2016 #5
cali Aug 2016 #6
NurseJackie Aug 2016 #13
cali Aug 2016 #24
NurseJackie Aug 2016 #32
cali Aug 2016 #34
NurseJackie Aug 2016 #36
Jim Lane Aug 2016 #43
KMOD Aug 2016 #53
cali Aug 2016 #89
bonemachine Aug 2016 #76
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Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #28
msanthrope Aug 2016 #51
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NurseJackie Aug 2016 #114
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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:20 AM

1. Actually, saying that HRC has a trust deficit is spreading a RW meme, but SSDD, I guess.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:24 AM

3. No. It's in poll after poll after poll. You want to call 538 or Quinnipiac or PPP right wing feel

 

free.

It's still ridiculous horseshit.

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Response to cali (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:51 AM

27. How is this useful?

It is using a right wing meme to ding Hillary. Those who don't trust her because of the years of rightie attacks won't...and no press conference will fix that.

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Response to cali (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:29 AM

39. And a RW Congressman was caught saying they keep investigating her

to lower her poll numbers. It's a RW talking point.

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Response to cali (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:02 AM

80. Cali, all I can guess is that you also are influenced by the media Kool-Aid.

Hillary Clinton is doing amazingly well. Strangely, magically well if what the media keep reporting is so correct. I'm surprised you don't realize this.

Maybe you're missing the same strong dissonance between her real-life performance and the picture the MSM keep projecting that is escaping so many others?

As you should recall, the media were ALL surprised when the nation reacted to the unending chain of Clinton scandals in the 1990s, reported every day in the news, culminating in an impeachment attempt, by tossing a pack of Republicans out of office. Perhaps you were surprised then too? And now it's happening again--media covering scandals every day without fail through her entire campaign.

If it's not to be deja vu all over again, I'd rethink that powerful, crippling "distrust" meme you've apparently swallowed and are pushing here. In spite of questions being inserted on every poll so they can be reported continuously until the next poll provides more, pushing this meme just isn't doing its job. Either liberals are rejecting her in large numbers or there is, again, something wrong with this picture...!

In any case, in spite of a deeply divided electorate, in spite of being the first woman candidate for President of the United States, in spite of hundreds of millions of dollars spent in attempt to swiftboat her, in spite of petrified media bias against her:

Hillary Clinton is running for president with enormous support from her party, her admirers and colleagues in politics, and her electorate (over 88% Dems right now, and some of us are conservatives). And she's winning.

And she'd almost certainly win with a better GOP candidate too. It'd be closer, but demographic changes are killing the white man's party and people all across the spectrum are very unhappy with the GOP's performance.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #80)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 11:54 AM

87. all I can guess is your filters distort reality.

 

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Response to cali (Reply #87)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:14 AM

100. Funny how the distorted reality shows up only in your own posts though, peraps those

 

filters are a bit closer to your own eye and you're simply unaware of them or pleased with what they show you, despite not conforming with the reality that the rest of the world not influenced by RW talking points lives in?

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #80)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 01:22 PM

90. I wish I could K&R your post, Hortensis

Yes, the media (and I suppose Cali) were surprised when the impeached Bill Clinton handily won a second term and that there was a Republican meltdown in Congress. And the media (and I suppose Cali) are surprised today that Hillary Clinton is leading by double digits in several swing states, after unrelenting attacks on bullshit issues.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #90)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 01:55 PM

92. Yes. Looking at results themselves and listening to results

filtered through biased media definitely produce different pictures.

As said, filters distort reality. And it's not as if we don't all know that the MSM has been strongly biased for so long against Hillary that the bias itself is arthritic with age.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #90)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 02:17 PM

93. Bill Clinton was impeached during his second term. Let's get the record straight.

We don't want to be like Trump and the Repugs Party who make up their own facts.

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #93)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:29 PM

95. You're absolutely right

Thanks!

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #95)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:39 AM

104. The poster fails to note the 98 election was stunning in terms of GOP losses

and indicates what happens when the GOP goes to far.

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #93)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:37 AM

103. Well perhaps you might note that in 1998

The Repubs lost big and New Gingrich resigned in fact ...a stunning electoral loss which was because of the impeachment ...or so exit polls said. So it is quite possible even if he was 'impeached' in his first term...he would not have lost the 96 election.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #103)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 04:59 PM

120. I'm very familiar with the Clinton years having lived through it.

The point of my post was to correct the erroneous data in the post which you referenced, not to speculate about what might have happened in 1996 as you did. There is enough erroneous data put out by the fact-free Repug party and I didn't want an incorrect statement to go uncorrected, because his statement (albeit incorrect) was an important part of his conclusion. It wasn't personal, and the Poster I was addressing didn't seem to have a problem with what I said, but somehow you did. I assure you that I am as Democratic as anyone on this board. Don't mistake my lack of thousands of posts like many here have, fool you into thinking I'm a troll or something, or someone YOU need to correct. I can read, and don't need YOU to tell me what I should and shouldn't take away from someone else's posts.

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Response to politicaljunkie41910 (Reply #120)

Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:53 AM

121. The point is impeachement did not end well for them.

I had not even noticed the number of posts...I rarely do. The point was that we still won in 96...you said the scandal had not occurred in 96 which is correct...I merely pointed out that in 98, the GOP took an electoral beating and Gingrich needed to resign. My post was meant to be informative, not critical...hey that is true but what about this kind of post. Sorry if you are offended...not my intention.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:54 AM

10. Even idiots are right

 

Every so often. Every poll says this

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Response to FSogol (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:23 PM

52. But she does have a trust deficit

 

Its in the polls. You can't pick and choose what things you like in the polls and ignore the deficits.

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Response to UMTerp01 (Reply #52)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 01:25 PM

61. Well, people who love her so much apparently can.

 

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Response to UMTerp01 (Reply #52)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:16 AM

101. Well, you could fact check the media stories that create this "trust deficit" and understand

 

what's being picked and chosen to create a distortion of her honesty, it requires that one actually does one's homework and not pick and choose the factual basis for these supposed deficits that are pushed by the media over decades.

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Response to UMTerp01 (Reply #52)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:41 AM

105. She won the nomination handily so at least

among Democrats, she is fine and with some Republicans, it seems she is fine also now based on polls.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:46 AM

107. A Right Wing meme?

Oh come on...a very valid point is being made here. She needs to "get out there" and discuss issues... make herself visible to those who don't really know her. There are a LOT of republicans out there who probably don't know who to vote for under these extenuating circumstances. They are ripe for the picking if she reaches out.

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Response to Highway61 (Reply #107)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:59 AM

111. Oh, good time to kick an anti-HRC post, huh? She is out there every day on the camapign trail

discussing issues. Look past the Trump circus and you might see that.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #111)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:41 AM

113. Anti Hillary???

Come on...No way!!! Cali has been here a long time and made a good point...you suggested the "right wing" rhetoric to the OP. We're suppose to all be on the same page here.

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Response to Highway61 (Reply #107)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:33 AM

117. Ah...

More bad advice that would hurt Sec. Clinton.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:21 AM

2. I agree

More democrat politicians should do the same.

It's free advertising, also.

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Response to SheriffBob (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 01:07 PM

59. 'democrat politicians' huh?

K.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:25 AM

4. After the olymics and come September, I believe she will.

 

Most voters are attention deficit...like Trump. She needs to do this mid-September when school is in and parents have returned to a regular routine. In the meantime, Trump is using up all his rope so I wouldn't step on it.

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Response to glennward (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:29 AM

7. Agreed. Fall is the time to do it, not now.

 

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:25 AM

5. "but this is what is known as constructive criticism."






I call it perpetuating the myth by repeating the lie. Shit like this reinforces RW talking points. I question the wisdom and motivation of such posts.

Stop it, please.


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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:29 AM

6. What lie, nurse? Do tell.

 

Some of you are just so locked into denial that you can't see facts and so defensive that even the mildest CONSTRUCTIVE criticism of HRC is seen as "hate" or lying about Hillary or what the hell ever.

I will never stop anything because YOU ask it. Never.

Your opinion is simply one I do not hold in high esteem.

emoticon overuse is indicative of something- and it's not an argument. It's just silly.

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Response to cali (Reply #6)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:04 AM

13. GMAFB! The lie you're perpetuating is that "she can't be trusted".

I will never stop anything because YOU ask it. Never.
It's not about me, Cali.

Your opinion is simply one I do not hold in high esteem.
You take things much too personally and hold grudges for much too long. Your hostility toward me is weird.

emoticon overuse is indicative of something- and it's not an argument. It's just silly.
Clearly it annoys you. So, I guess it accomplished something.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #13)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:43 AM

24. It's not a lie. It's called fact

 

<snip>

In an NBC-Wall Street Journal poll in late June, 69 percent of respondents said they were concerned that Clinton has a record or reputation as untrustworthy. A CBS News poll in June found 62 percent saying Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, while 33 percent said she is. Her ratings on this were similar to Trumpís (63 percent not honest, 32 percent honest). But on a separate measure of being forthcoming, 33 percent of registered voters said Clinton says what she believes while 62 percent said she does not. By contrast, 56 percent said Trump says what he believes.

<snip>

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/can-hillary-clinton-overcome-her-trust-problem/2016/07/03/b12eeb52-3fd8-11e6-84e8-1580c7db5275_story.html

4 brutal poll numbers that greet Hillary Clinton at the Democratic National Convention

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/25/4-brutal-poll-numbers-that-greet-hillary-clinton-at-the-democratic-national-convention/

From Whitewater to Benghazi and her secret speeches to Wall Streeters, Hillary Clinton has a trust problem, polls find. She admitted Monday that she has to do more to change the perception. Political director Lisa Desjardins reports and Judy Woodruff talks with Anne Gearan of The Washington Post; Peter D. Hart, founder of Hart Research Associates; and longtime Clinton supporter Ann Lewis.

<snip>

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/can-hillary-clinton-convince-voters-that-shes-honest-and-trustworthy/

Why she has these FACTUAL problems vis a vis voter perception of her, can be debated. I'm sure you believe that it's all the republicans doing. I see things a bit more complexly and more realistically.

I understand that facts are uncomfortable for you if they don't fit into your frame, but facts they are.

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Response to cali (Reply #24)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:19 AM

32. I see what you're doing. I know exactly what you're doing.

The primary is over. You need to stop.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #32)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:31 AM

34. Wow. Talk about projection. The primary is over for me. Not for you though

 

And no, you haven't a clue.

You're the one that went ballistic over my very mild op, nurse.

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Response to cali (Reply #34)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:38 AM

36. Yes, I can see what you're doing. "Projection" ?? "Ballistic" ?? Good grief!

Actually... you're the one making it personal with the insults.

"very mild op" ... yes, of course, it has to be, doesn't it?

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Response to cali (Reply #24)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:38 AM

43. Thanks for doing the work to pull this together.

 

It's really appalling that, on the brave new DU, even a statement of obvious fact is dismissed as a right-wing meme if it's the slightest bit unfavorable to Clinton.

Let me not paint with too broad brush, though. There are people on this thread who recognize the problem, and who thoughtfully disagree with your suggestion as a matter of tactics. Some of the posts here exemplify the kind of valuable discussion that's become less common on DU.

On the merits, let me add another point in favor of your OP. Facing the media at press conferences would probably help Clinton's debate prep (assuming that Trump doesn't duck the debates).

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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #43)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:28 PM

53. The last thing I'm worried about is

 

Hillary Clinton's debate prep. She is masterful at it.

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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #43)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 11:59 AM

89. I agree that there are people on this thread who thoughtfully disagree, and I have responded,

 

hopefully thoughtfully to their comments.

Perhaps we can get back to thoughtful discussions of issues after November. I've been trying- posting many issue oriented threads. They sink like stones.

thank you.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #13)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 05:17 PM

76. There's a difference between...

"can't be trusted" and "isn't trusted".

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:54 AM

11. Yep.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:54 AM

28. I agree and still believe it is the last lingering bitterness over the primary which is over folks.

I find nothing constructive about this post. Hillary is doing just fine. Why would she jump out and make herself a media target? Let Trump continue with his nonsense. When someone is melting down...let them.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:16 PM

51. You Better Believe It!!!! nt

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 05:12 PM

75. +1000!

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:43 AM

106. Stating out and out that our nominee has a trust deficit is an attack on a Democrtic nominee.

It should not be allowed.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #106)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:52 AM

114. You're correct, of course. It's easy to see what people are doing. I'm not fooled.

And that reminds me: there are a lot of things that I read here and elsewhere that would be better suited for JPR. But I guess their 12-person echo-chamber and incredibly slow software can only keep people entertained for so long, and that helps to explain the uptick in "concerned" posts or "helpful criticism" posts in recent days (throughout this site and elsewhere on the internet).

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #114)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:55 AM

119. I don't see how these posts survive. nt

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:46 AM

8. I was just reading an NYT piece saying the same basic thing.

Apparently, Trump's stonewalling of the press is so epic that it's overshadowing the Clinton camps sorta blackout.

By now, historically, any candidate would have a gaggle of press hovering around them 24/7, riding the bus with them, etc, etc.

Hillary's campaign has yet to okay that, and that's rare for how late it is in the campaign. But again, Trump is so much worse with it that many aren't taking notice.

THAT SAID, were I Clinton, I'd relish having any reason not to have a bunch of reporters stumbling all over me, never giving me an inch of rest or piece, clucking over every thing you say and every look you make.

There's no legal precedent for it, or moral one. It's just that the press has gotten used to a certain level of access it hasn't enjoyed yet. Which normally I'd say, "well, screw them." But they ARE a big part of influencing plenty of people out there, so it is something to consider, at least.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:52 AM

9. NO..she should not hold more press conferences...

First of all the media does not care what she has to say. They just want her to slip up. Plus she needs to figure out a straight answer to the stupid email questions. Seems like everyone else can provide a straight answer and that is the end of it. But she wants to parse words.

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Response to helpisontheway (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:09 AM

14. +1.."... the media does not care what she has to say. They just want her to slip up..." and she

... doesn't even have to do that... just say something not as artful as they would such as the FBI found I was truthful.

23 day news cycle on just that while no one has demanded Comey explain his blaring contradiction between no emails headered classified and not having any classified emails.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:58 AM

12. If the press simply reported the facts, I'd agree with you, but

since their number one goal is ratings and they seem to do anything they can to inflate and massage information to push their agenda, I think Hillary's current strategy is the way to go.

Isn't the general rule to sit back while your candidate goes down in flames? Why take the media off of that shit storm?

Also, whenever she has done a press conference, what is it that's typically reported in the media? Only negatives or some comment taken out of context.

I personally feel that the people who have trust issues with Hillary won't be swayed to feel any differently if she does more press conferences. In fact, I think it will only feed into the current, albeit inaccurate, perception of distrust.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:12 AM

15. I'm sure she will in the coming weeks. Trumps meltdown is center stage right now.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:14 AM

16. You are presenting a false narrative. There is a reason 57% of republicans believe that

President Obama is a Muslim, and 29% of all Americans believe that. It is because the MSM have allowed that garbage to go unchallenged. The Kerry Swift Boating is a perfect example of what has been going on for decades. 80% of the coverage was spent to those making the false charges, and much less time was given to the facts.

The school of accepted school of journalism is now the Chuck Todd School of Journalism, "it isn't the media's job to call out lies". He was discussing it in the context of the ACA when he said the following, "It's Not Media's Job To Correct GOP's Obamacare errors"

The media has been doing the same thing with Hillary. Major economic speech from Hillary yesterday, which included tuition free college, is mentioned only as a passing thought. She has been out on the campaign trail meeting with real people

Of course a portion of her time should be done through press conferences, but going out on the trail, and meeting personally with the people is much more important in order to get her known.


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Response to still_one (Reply #16)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:45 AM

25. Nope. I'm presenting facts. See post 24

 

Jaysus. It's just sad that the mildest, constructive criticism of HRC, is met with rabid responses.

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Response to cali (Reply #25)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:31 AM

33. Let me address your last comment first, because you are wrong there also. I was on the

jury ruling on this OP, and I voted that it did NOT violate the TOS, so your "mildest criticism" comment, is all wet, at least in regards to me, and in regard to my comment, my response was NOT a "rabid" response to your OP. Nice hyperbole though

I would also suspect there were others like me who were Hillary supporters in the primary on that jury, that also ruled it did not violate the TOS

On the first comment, you missed my entire point. The media has set up the false narrative, and whatever this medium spews out, whether false or not, much of the public regurgitates the same garbage

Polls are a reflections of the distortions of the media feeding the populace this garbage

I gave several examples, including the Kerry Swift Boating, and the President Obama is Muslim narrative.

90% of talk radio is right wing propaganda that gets spewed 24/7 throughout the airwaves, and the dirty little secret is that it does influence the public

It is a self-fulfilled prophecy. You spew a talking point out enough, and the public will willingly accept it.

This is not the first time in history where the media has been a partner in misinformation, the Joe McCarthy period was notorious for it.

It wasn't that long ago when the illustrious media was throwing out the, "Hillary is shrill memo" with one hand, and taking the "likability" polls with the other hand

It is the old loaded question, "When did you stop beating your wife"

Only because I am giving you a view that you disagree with regarding the false talking point that "Hillary isn't trust worthy", somehow my response is a rabid response?

It was nothing of the sort. Maybe you should focus on what I wrote, as you are telling people to focus on what was said in the OP. Touche'

and by the way, my comment did address your OP with the following:

"Of course a portion of her time should be done through press conferences, but going out on the trail, and meeting personally with the people is much more important in order to get her known."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2360529




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Response to still_one (Reply #33)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:56 AM

45. ^^This^^

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Response to stopbush (Reply #45)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:11 PM

47. Yep!

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Response to still_one (Reply #33)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:07 PM

65. Nicely done. Thank you.

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Response to cali (Reply #25)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:11 AM

81. Not rabid. Silly. Some are offering a more rounded

view of the situation than the typical viewer picks up, also reminders of facts to help you break away from the memes the media are pushing. I posted above, but you won't do better than to just re-read and consider the information Still One provides.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:20 AM

17. Hmmm

20 questions about emails, 10 asking why people don't like her and 5 about Benghazi. Thanks, but no.

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Response to mcar (Reply #17)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:38 AM

23. Exactly.

 

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Response to mcar (Reply #17)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:31 PM

54. Yep.

Happens every time, and every time produces another "let's split hairs on her answer and say she lied" scandal.

I'm sick of the media constantly referring to Donald Trump as being "creative with the truth" while they almost always say "Hillary LIED."

ETA: Fortunately, the media has finally started to call Trump out, but only because they can't ignore the severity of his insane and absurd behavior.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:24 AM

18. She can't.

She's terrible at live journalist inquiry. She's not a "people person" as it were. It shows throughout her career. Always avoiding the news media. It's perhaps her greatest weakness, and I suspect, she's being advised, correctly, that she should say or do nothing as Trump acts. Let Trump destroy himself. That's the current plan, imo.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #18)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:50 AM

26. That's reasonable and something I thought about before penning this oh-so-well-received op

 

but I think she could perform adequately and maybe better than that. And I'm suggesting it not for the present, but for later in the fall.

Again, entering the WH with the kind of polling I cite in post 24, is not to her benefit.

And Presidents need to hold press conferences. They simply cannot shirk them.

President Obama held fewer in his first term than most of his predecessors, but they still numbered 74.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico44/2013/01/obama-ends-term-with-fewer-pressers-than-bush-or-clinton-154233

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Response to cali (Reply #26)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:48 AM

108. You knew it would not be received well when you posted it.

I have no idea why you wish to say these things about our nominee and do not find it helpful in our effort to win a landslide election and maybe get the House which would allow much of what you all say you want Hillary to do...to have a chance to actually happen.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #108)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:58 AM

110. I always hope for intelligent exchanges.

 

I always hope to find people who are more interested in analysis than rah rah go team blue.

You?

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Response to cali (Reply #110)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:25 AM

116. It is an election year.

What purpose does it serve to critique Sec. Clinton? She needs to be supported not criticised. Obama was torn to shreds here after the election. And how did that help? We lost the House and ultimately the senate; we can't even get a judge confirmed at the moment. Had we supported Obama, it might have been different. Can't we at least wait until after the election to begin tearing down Sec. Clinton?

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:25 AM

19. She might also explain

the relationships with her donors:

Hillary Clinton has taken too much money from people with business before the government to dismiss concerns about conflicts of interest out of hand.

She's taken it in smaller sums from direct donors to her campaigns for Senate and president, much larger contributions to the party she now runs, eye-popping personal payments for speeches and astronomical gifts to the Clinton Foundation.

The public deserves to know how she plans to prevent all that money from unduly influencing her if she is elected president.


http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Opinion/2016/08/12/Hillary-Clinton-needs-to-explain-her-relationships-with-donors/8271470992642/

This is a a fair critique, yes? Jonathan Allen (author of OP) is no Trumper, having been frequently cited by Media Matters in defense of Clinton and the Benghazi "investigation" (sic).

It will be a debate question (hopefully, if it never becomes press conference question, that is).

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Response to PDittie (Reply #19)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:55 AM

37. I'm wondering if people demanded the same explanations from Obama in 2008 and 2012.

I know..."let's demand explanations" has nothing to do with the fact that it's a female candidate.

In addition, small dollar donors sounds populist, but there's no telling who (or what robot) is pressing a "donate $20" multiple times everyday for hours or exactly where those "donors" live.

Trump took in a surprisingly big haul last month, mostly in small donor sums. t looks a bit fishy.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:30 AM

20. I think she will, when the electorate tunes back in to the election in the fall

but in the meantime, she's standing well back so as to allow Trump to continue punching himself in the nuts.

Also, being out on the road talking to people is more effective than the "gotcha" session most media outlets will present her with. Remember, at the moment, the media is rolling around in the Trump meltdown story because even they can't spin a horserace out of these poll numbers. But they'd MUCH prefer a horserace because then EVERYONE is sick and anxious and watching the news 24/7. If they can tear her down, they will.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:33 AM

21. I am for anything that increases her chances of winning.

If lack of accessibility decreases her chances of winning she should address it. If it isn't she shouldn't.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:37 AM

22. She seems to only have a likeability deficit when she is

 

Displaying ambition, once she holds a job people like her.

So far she is running a winning campaign so I wouldn't second guess her.

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #22)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 10:11 AM

38. Bingo! Ambitious man = Leader; Ambitious woman = Bitch.

She should probably smile more too. You know, wouldn't want her to look too serious.


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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:55 AM

29. Bad idea

Their questions are not just designed to make her look bad, they are most often pointless.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:59 AM

30. Right now would be the WORST time to have a press conference..

The press is desperate, just desperate to tear into her, because they have been forced to be truthful about Trump.. and so as not to seem lop sided.. they need to tear her apart..

She is doing just fine..You examine the ground around you before you walk into the minefields..

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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #30)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:01 AM

31. Please read the op. I clearly suggested the fall. Not now.

 

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 09:32 AM

35. Hillary is going to be President.

Looks like we could take over Congress as well.

This must really bug republicans.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:08 AM

40. Hmm...I'll bet she has experienced press advisers on her staff.

Ya think?

She's been out speaking to the "American People" all along during this campaign season. Maybe she'll come to a location near you sometime.

But, you should send a copy of your OP to her campaign headquarters. They may not have thought about press conferences, somehow...

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:20 AM

41. 3/4 of the questions would be about Benghazi and e-mails

I don't see the gain.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:26 AM

42. I think #'s about reliability or trustworthiness are irrelevant when she goes into office.

You know why? Because she is going into office. That's all that matters. She is waaaay ahead. The only time you want to a dress your weakness is when you are behind or when the race is up for grabs. Why in the world would she want to go talk about her weakness if she is cruising for a landslide victory? Makes no sense.

Quite honestly, I personally feel this is a terrible idea. The American public does not need to be reminded of how they don't like her or trust her. She is doing EXACTLY what she needs to do to maintain her lead.

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Response to AgadorSparticus (Reply #42)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:40 AM

44. +1

 

And most of that so-called untrust is for the simple fact that she is a woman. Once she is in office people will get over their ridiculous fear of her.

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Response to KMOD (Reply #44)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:03 PM

46. Exactly! There is a reason why Obama called her the most qualified.

She will be an amazing president. What people don't get is how she is loved around the world. I can't wait to see what she does in her time in office. I am so excited!

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Response to AgadorSparticus (Reply #46)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:12 PM

48. me too!

 

She has spent her whole life accomplishing things. She's been the most respected woman in the world for decades. And yet there are still people who attempt to knock her down.

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Response to KMOD (Reply #48)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:14 PM

49. She is cruising for a LANDSLIDE victory and it is still not good enough. Smh.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:15 PM

50. The Rightwing created the trust issue...HRC should not have a press conference as their only aim

 

Would be to attack her to make this election close...she has plenty of people who can speak up for her

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:32 PM

55. Constructive criticism is fine.

You dispense it freely and often. We all can remember your constructive criticism of President Obama throughout his two terms. At least those of us who have been here throughout that period can remember.

I'm sure you'll continue to constructively criticize Hillary Clinton equally often after the election. We'll be following your posts about her deficiencies on an almost daily basis, I'm sure.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #55)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:49 PM

58. Now, see...

This is why I like you.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #58)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 01:53 PM

63. LOL!

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #55)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:05 PM

64. +1

 

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:33 PM

56. She's actively campaigning using a variety of media

Very skillfully too.

What the fuck are you talking about "press conferences"--about what? Emails? Benghazi? Trump? Her husband?

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:33 PM

57. She's leading, I don't see the need for her to expose herself to more scum RW hacks than is

necessary. If the race tightens, then maybe, but as it is things are ticking over nicely.

Let her surrogates keep prodding Trump for a reaction.

I'd love to see the campaign get to a stage where they can simmer the pressure on Trump, and ramp up the pressure on key House & Senate races.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 01:12 PM

60. So they can ask her why nobody likes her? (again)

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 01:39 PM

62. What's constructive about taking the spotlight off Trump for even a minute?

Have you ever actually worked on a campaign? When your opponent is withering from the blazing sun, you don't wish for rain.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:12 PM

66. You should keep your JPR content on JPR.

 

Everything you recommend Clinton should do would actively hurt her campaign. Stop this petty effort to keep fighting the primary.

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Response to BobbyDrake (Reply #66)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:30 PM

67. +1000. I don't know why the folks from JPR are back here.

DU is for electing Democrats. JPR is not. I see no common ground at all.

There are numerous vile threads on JPR calling Hillary names, some photoshopped with ugly images. The people who formed that community own it. Why are they here?

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Response to yardwork (Reply #67)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:44 PM

69. AND They are very concerned with Hillary's health

And no few think hate is a productive emotion.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #67)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:07 PM

72. Cali

never participated in the hatred bs over there at JPR. As far as what I saw over there, they accused her of being a Hillary agent. Criticisms of Clinton are still allowed here as long as it's not a RW smear and comes from a place of genuineness.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #72)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 08:23 AM

82. So criticism of Hillary is allowed... I was unaware that supporting DEMOCRATS had been

eliminated from the rules. Allowable and wise are two different things, however. I guess I will merely block any who engage in this practice as I strongly disapprove. I want to encourage the electorate you see and win big in November. I am a lifelong committed Democrat who would love to see a strong progressive agenda actually enacted. You see words matter. I am part of the get out the vote effort most election years and have found that criticism from the left is very demoralizing to Democratic voters...people expect the right to say awful things...but when it comes from the left, it is a more meaningful and effective criticism. Thus, there is no such thing as constructive criticism during a presidential campaign or any other election for that matter.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #82)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 09:20 AM

83. I prefer not to criticize her

due to wing nut attacks on her that have been so vile. I'm of a mind, same as you, that during the election, I stay 100% positive.

But I do know that some of those who do criticize the minutiae of the campaign do so with innocent motives. Some people just want to discuss strategy and such. I'm sure they know that they have no effect on her strategy obviously. There are certainly concern trolls here, and some are obvious. But not everyone engaged in criticism is.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #83)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 10:52 AM

84. I agree with you...I was being sarcastic

It should not be allowed. The concern trolls are taking advantage of the Democratic site. Some of them (not the OP) have publicly stated they want Hillary Clinton to lose the election on other sites. I want a landslide...let's take back the Congress and get stuff done.Criticism by the left demoralises voters. I never criticise Pres. Obama. I don't agree with him on some issues but the right attack him non-stop...we need to have his back. If I have a concern I write, leave a comment or email.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #83)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 10:54 AM

85. Also, let me just say for the record

People Obama has been a wonderful president and we are lucky to have had him. I love him and the first family...worked on both his campaigns. He will be missed.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #72)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 11:56 AM

88. thank you. Not only did i never join it, I blasted the hate. And I was attacked there in much the

 

same way as I'm being attacked in this thread.

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Response to cali (Reply #88)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:05 PM

94. You posted there frequently. Now you're saying you never joined?

Look, I don't care where people post. I'm a member of DU, though, and DU is reserved for people who support Democrats.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #94)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 03:16 AM

98. I said nothing of the sort. I said fucking clearly I was frequently attacked there

 

try reading.

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Response to cali (Reply #88)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:50 PM

97. I guess Clinton isn't the only one with likeability, trust and transparency issues.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #67)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 06:24 PM

79. They're drifting back here ...

... because JPR is a shitty site, full stop.

It is full of totally ludicrous conspiracy theories, "political analysis" spewed by idiots who have NO idea whatsoever of how gov't works, and endless threads about how HRC and her "Oligarch Henchmen" have been threatening Bernie and his family in between murdering Clinton opponents.

The hatred runs so thick, even Bernie himself has been thrown under the bus by many JPR members, and the paranoia runs so wild, there isn't a Democrat, a journalist, a news source, a blogger, a broadcaster, or an author who hasn't been labelled as "the enemy" if they express anything positive about Hillary or the Dem Party.

Those who signed-up at JPR thinking they would be engaging in intelligent discussion with fellow "progressives" have now realized that JPR touts more RW talking points than the RNC, FOX-News and Freeperville combined, and those who became members in hopes of actively furthering Bernie's ideals have been disappointed to find little interest in doing so.

JPR is the internet version of Jonestown. Those who refuse to drink the election was stolen, and we're all going to be 'disappeared' for saying so Kool-Aid are desperate to leave the compound before they wind up brain-dead from exposure to the constant lunacy.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Reply #79)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 07:48 AM

99. Seriously? You're comparing JPR to Jonestown?

Excellent! Nicely done! Those are excellent observations!

Sad, but true.

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Response to BobbyDrake (Reply #66)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:32 PM

74. That's exactly what it is.

And why it passes jury scrutiny, I'll never understand.

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Response to BobbyDrake (Reply #66)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:55 AM

109. 1000+

How you can want to help someone like Trump...I just don't understand. He is the worst GOP candidate in my lifetime.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:34 PM

68. Definitely.

 

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Response to Tierra_y_Libertad (Reply #68)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 08:33 AM

102. Are you voting for Hillary? nt

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:51 PM

70. Seems to me that she and her advisors have a handle

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 02:53 PM

71. Seems to me that she and her advisors have a handle

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 03:07 PM

73. Your concern concerning this concern is concerning. eom

 

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 05:23 PM

77. Your concern is duly noted, again.

She is out speaking every day to people, real people and the press is covering her, but we get to to listen to the Cheeto Express daily, almost hourly on our so-called "news" channels. Perhaps we should ask for more coverage of her rather than the out of control egoist. The old adage is appropriate here, when someone is digging themselves into a hole, stay out of their way. I think the first debate will give people a very stark visual into what the choice is, and it will be devastating. The false narrative which has been ongoing for over 20 years is a manufactured smear campaign and some people are going to believe it no matter if she came out and walked on water. I know exactly what has been going on since Karl Rove came out of diapers. Some people will believe anything as long as it fits into their preconceived ideology. Truth will out and it will either be enough or it won't. I believe her actions will prove her to be honest and capable.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Fri Aug 12, 2016, 05:24 PM

78. I trust Hillary with taking charge of this country and being a great President.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 11:23 AM

86. More testimonials from public figures with impeccable reputations

Not sure that press conferences are the best way to restore her trustworthiness in the polls, which was quite good in the years just before the Benghazi and email investigations. Years of political slander as the fallout from these investigations, and speculation from media pundits, have their effect, and it will just take time to undo.

I think very vocal support from people who are seen as squeaky clean and beyond reproach will help somewhat, not only politicians but clergymen, judges, law enforcement etc. I do think that perceived trustworthiness is the key aspect holding her back from 55 to 60% in the polls. It's pretty difficult to clear oneself in the public eye, so press conferences are of limited utility. It really helps to have others stand up and provide a testimonial by putting their good name on the line.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 01:27 PM

91. Thank you so much for your concern, Cali!

In case you missed it, that's

Buh bye!

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Response to cali (Original post)

Sat Aug 13, 2016, 06:36 PM

96. Trump will have to have a lot more people turn out then ever before in any election. Won't happen.

 

As far as trust goes, Trump is losing voters left and right because of trust issues. I personally don't think he means to do this, he just cannot help himself so high on cocaine.

Nobody believes Obama and HRC created ISIS, that is just stupid beyond explanation. Trump cannot keep his lying mouth shut, he is pathological.

HRC can just sit back and watch him self destruct, he is working hard on it.

That doesn't mean I wouldn't like to hear from her more, just that the trust issue is not a major problem for her. Right now it is sympathetic with the Russians trying to interfere in our elections.

People don't take kindly to that shit. It is one of the things that unifies us imo.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:09 AM

112. I agree.

It's free publicity.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 09:58 AM

115. No more untill after election. Even if she held one a day, imo you'll never 'like' her.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Mon Aug 15, 2016, 10:36 AM

118. Wrong. She has a trust deficit because people keep announcing that she is untrustworthy.

And Rethugs have held countless investigations against her, starting with Travelgate, Christmas-card-gate, and on and on and on.

It wouldn't matter how many press conferences she had. That she can't be trusted would still be the Rethugs' claim, and that of the people carrying water for them.

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Response to cali (Original post)

Thu Sep 8, 2016, 09:07 AM

122. It seems opinions have changed...

...on this press conference thing.

Funny.

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