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molova

(543 posts)
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:32 PM Aug 2016

Time Magazine: "WikiLeaks Is Getting Scarier Than the NSA"

Privacy advocates are being critical of Julian Assange and Wikileaks.

"“It’s become something else,” says John Wonderlich, executive director of the Sunlight Foundation, a Washington nonprofit that advocates for transparency. “It’s not striving for objectivity. It’s more careless. When they publish information it appears to be in service of some specific goal, of retribution, at the expense of the individual.”"


...

“I’m more afraid of WikiLeaks than I am of the NSA,” says one American privacy advocate, who would speak only without being further identified, partly out of concern about retribution. “When they first burst into our consciousness, they were acting like publishers and journalists. The idea that these rascals were turning the tables on the deep state had great emotional relevance to me. But they turned out not have any principles.”


In the article, it is noted that Assange provided no evidence regarding the irresponsible claim that DNC staffer Seth Rich (recently assassinated) was the source of the DNC leaks:

Assange offered no support for the incendiary suggestion—”We don’t comment on who our sources are,” he coyly replied, when the Dutch interviewer pressed for details on his guest’s insinuation. Nor was the suggestion welcomed by Rich’s family, which subsequently issued a statement praising the efforts of the D.C. police, who have said they are investigating the slaying as a mugging gone bad.


Read more:
http://time.com/4450282/wikileaks-julian-assange-dnc-hack-criticism/
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Time Magazine: "WikiLeaks Is Getting Scarier Than the NSA" (Original Post) molova Aug 2016 OP
They sold out. Now they are just another illegal hacker bunch. MichiganVote Aug 2016 #1
Assange should be buried under the jail mwrguy Aug 2016 #2
well, that'll show him huh. bad bad boy. 2banon Aug 2016 #19
Clinton Conspiracy theories fun n serious Aug 2016 #3
Scary is right lillypaddle Aug 2016 #4
That is fucking laughable. And fuck the Time senior reporter for endorsing assasination. think Aug 2016 #5
? TimeToGo Aug 2016 #7
what? seriously. Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #11
It's such a bizzare response to a fairly even handed article. SaschaHM Aug 2016 #13
Fuck Assange for implying that the DNC staffers murder was a hit job. grossproffit Aug 2016 #14
Fuck Assange etc... democratic emails etc revealed and not GOP emails.. fuck em. uponit7771 Aug 2016 #15
Fuck Assange. Fuck Wikileaks. Arrest them all and throw away the fucking key. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #20
Wikileaks is an arm of the Kremlin, I suspect. nt MADem Aug 2016 #6
+1 Maru Kitteh Aug 2016 #12
Why Did WikiLeaks Help Dox Most of Turkey’s Adult Female Population? ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2016 #8
And there's no accountability. NONE. calimary Aug 2016 #9
Some of here in the golden days tried to warn about this but were roundly blocked, chided, and glennward Aug 2016 #10
It seems most we fooled. anamandujano Aug 2016 #17
The problem with that comparison is that no one really knows if the NSA aids in destroying people. TheBlackAdder Aug 2016 #16
It's just a blackmail outfit these days and nothing more Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #18

mwrguy

(3,245 posts)
2. Assange should be buried under the jail
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:37 PM
Aug 2016

This rapist, saboteur, criminal is going to have a tough time when Hillary take office.

lillypaddle

(9,606 posts)
4. Scary is right
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:40 PM
Aug 2016

This is an odd time in our history, and I don't know if we can pull some of the things going on back.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
5. That is fucking laughable. And fuck the Time senior reporter for endorsing assasination.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 11:48 PM
Aug 2016

Seriously. Fuck their lack of Democratic, ethical, moral, and journalistic integrity.

Fuck Time....

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
13. It's such a bizzare response to a fairly even handed article.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 07:30 AM
Aug 2016

You would think that Assange himself was behind the post.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
14. Fuck Assange for implying that the DNC staffers murder was a hit job.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 07:42 AM
Aug 2016

He's a piece of shit scumbag.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
20. Fuck Assange. Fuck Wikileaks. Arrest them all and throw away the fucking key.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 07:01 PM
Aug 2016

Assange is an enemy of my nation.

ConservativeDemocrat

(2,720 posts)
8. Why Did WikiLeaks Help Dox Most of Turkey’s Adult Female Population?
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 01:50 AM
Aug 2016
http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/07/why-did-wikileaks-help-dox-most-of-turkeys-adult-female-population.html

Whatever else you might say about WikiLeaks, it’s hard to think of an institution that squanders goodwill more efficiently. Even the people most sympathetic to its aims and ideals have had a hard time defending it recently. Just over the last couple of weeks, whoever ran its Twitter account posted tweets that are either anti-Semitic or deeply weird (the fact that WikiLeaks founder and head Julian Assange ranted about Jewish reporters to a British journalist in 2011 certainly makes it harder to view the posts in a charitable light). Then it was revealed that some of the Democratic National Committee documents it leaked last week — timed intentionally to do maximum damage to Hillary Clinton’s presidential chances, according to Assange — contained personal information, including credit card and Social Security numbers, of DNC donors.
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When she checked into what journalists in Turkey were saying about the leak on Twitter, and looked into the emails herself, she found that indeed, WikiLeaks hadn’t actually released a trove of government emails. Rather, it had released what appears to be big chunks of archives from various far-from-top-secret online discussion groups. One such Google Group, called “All Together for Turkey” (Turkiye-icin-el-ele@googlegroups.com), has 77,000 members and is dedicated to general political discussion, she said. Elsewhere in the document dumps are thousands of mentions of other, similar-sounding Google and Yahoo groups — there are many emails containing the address eTurkiyeyizBiz@googlegroups.com, for example, which Tufekci said translates roughly to “We are Turkey,” and which looks like a forum dedicated to sharing news stories. Overall, Tufekci said, she and other activists have now been poring over the archives for a week and there’s no sign anyone has found emails that weren’t taken from online discussion groups (though she was quick to add that she “can’t rule out” there are more meaningful emails buried somewhere in the huge stash).

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calimary

(90,021 posts)
9. And there's no accountability. NONE.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 02:11 AM
Aug 2016

This seems more and more like a genuine rogue operation.

 

glennward

(989 posts)
10. Some of here in the golden days tried to warn about this but were roundly blocked, chided, and
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 02:35 AM
Aug 2016

eventually banned. But truth crushed down will rise again... It is only going to get worse.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
17. It seems most we fooled.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 05:07 PM
Aug 2016
“I’m more afraid of WikiLeaks than I am of the NSA,” says one American privacy advocate, who would speak only without being further identified, partly out of concern about retribution. “When they first burst into our consciousness, they were acting like publishers and journalists. The idea that these rascals were turning the tables on the deep state had great emotional relevance to me. But they turned out not have any principles.”


Now we know.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
16. The problem with that comparison is that no one really knows if the NSA aids in destroying people.
Sat Aug 13, 2016, 12:21 PM
Aug 2016
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