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BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 06:52 AM Aug 2016

In Florida, it's Donald Trump's big rallies vs. Hillary Clinton's massive organizing

http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/in-florida-its-donald-trumps-big-rallies-vs-hillary-clintons-massive/2289342

To Team Clinton, organizing is everything.

To the unconventional Team Trump, big rallies rule.

"We're running a unique campaign in the sense that we can draw 15,000 people together at a time," said Karen Giorno, Florida-based senior adviser on the Trump campaign. "There are over 40,000 people that we've touched in the last two weeks with just four events. . . . We have a movement. Hillary Clinton is struggling to get people moving in her direction."

As anxious party leaders await a more conventional Florida campaign apparatus by Trump — field offices, paid organizers and TV ads that Giorno says are coming soon — the Clinton campaign is methodically building a massive get-out-the-vote effort.

Clinton and her Democratic allies have spent nearly $22 million on TV ads in Florida, according to an NBC News tally. Trump allies have spent less than $1.6 million.
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In Florida, it's Donald Trump's big rallies vs. Hillary Clinton's massive organizing (Original Post) BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 OP
it's her massive organizing that'll win the day n/t DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #1
Love how they think rallies are "unique." thucythucy Aug 2016 #2
The 1948 Harry Truman whistle stop tour. yellowcanine Aug 2016 #3
when people talk about the size of Trump rallies NewJeffCT Aug 2016 #8
Springsteen would be a YUGE improvement over BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 #14
Ask Bernie if big rallies win elections. Adrahil Aug 2016 #4
Truth... Wounded Bear Aug 2016 #5
Statesmanship is more than entertaining rednecks! caquillo Aug 2016 #6
Someone should remind him that President Obama won... SaschaHM Aug 2016 #7
And much of Hillary's good ground BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 #15
No matter how big a rally is, it only represents MineralMan Aug 2016 #9
His supporters also have a lot more free time Mellomugwump Aug 2016 #10
Retired or out of work. MineralMan Aug 2016 #11
True! Mellomugwump Aug 2016 #13
His rallies are HUGE Rstrstx Aug 2016 #12
Like these too! BlueMTexpat Aug 2016 #16

thucythucy

(8,038 posts)
2. Love how they think rallies are "unique."
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 09:11 AM
Aug 2016

They're so state of the art campaigning--if you're William Jennings Bryan.

They've touched "40,00 people" in "two weeks!"

In a state with how many millions of voters?

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
3. The 1948 Harry Truman whistle stop tour.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 09:20 AM
Aug 2016

It worked once, in 1948. And ever since then, politicians look out and see the enthusiastic crowds and think that they are Harry Truman. But there was only one Harry Truman and only one Tom Dewey, probably one of the most incompetent major party presidential candidates until Donald Trump.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. when people talk about the size of Trump rallies
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:26 AM
Aug 2016

I responded by saying that we can get Bruce Springsteen to play nearby and fill an 80,000 seat football stadium. Should he run for president, too, just because he can draw crowds 4x and 5x bigger than Trump?

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
14. Springsteen would be a YUGE improvement over
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 05:12 AM
Aug 2016

Trump, but I doubt that the GOP would be able to convince him to run for their side.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
4. Ask Bernie if big rallies win elections.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:42 AM
Aug 2016

That's no hit on Bernie, just a reminder that we've seen this movie before.

Wounded Bear

(58,601 posts)
5. Truth...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:47 AM
Aug 2016

Still love Bernie, but yeah, big rallies don't mean more votes.

That takes work on the ground.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
7. Someone should remind him that President Obama won...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:24 AM
Aug 2016

because of the strength of his ground and data game.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
15. And much of Hillary's good ground
Mon Aug 15, 2016, 05:16 AM
Aug 2016

game is due to former Obama data, networks, organizers and staff.

She's benefiting not only from her own experience in 2008, but also from those who worked for the Obama Team in 2008 and 2012! If only, ALL Dems had been so intelligent in 2010 and 2014, instead of running AWAY from Prez O.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
9. No matter how big a rally is, it only represents
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:28 AM
Aug 2016

a tiny percentage of voters. We learned that lesson in the primary season.

Getting a bunch of people in a stadium or some other venue is nice, but you're still only talking to a tiny minority of voters. And those who attend are almost always already on your side. You're convincing nobody.

Advertising talks to many more voters. Most people, the vast majority, have never been to a political rally and never will attend one. Rallies are overrated as a campaign strategy.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
11. Retired or out of work.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 12:58 PM
Aug 2016

He gets some young guys at his rallies, too. Most look like the pickup/confederate battle flag types. They probably aren't even registered to vote, and couldn't figure out how to become registered voters.

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