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Yallow

(1,926 posts)
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 02:11 PM Aug 2016

Why I Had A Personal E-Mail Server Explained

We can all guess why Hillary "made a mistake" and had a personal e-mail server. I think I know why, and it is not a mistake. Hillary could tell what I think is the truth, but she won't because she behaves like a president, and that is ok. I think this is what she could say if she decided to spill the beans, and I bet I am not far off.....

"I have been attacked relentlessly with baseless lies, and bogus "political" investigations for over 30 years. I also knew what would happen if a Republican in the State Department was able to view any of my communications which they could use to attack me in any way. I am sure any given Republican would risk national security to attack my family, as they have done exactly that for decades. The only way I could do my job keeping America safe, and looking out for America's interests was to make it impossible for Republicans to view any of my communications. In a perfect world Republicans would put America's security first, but we all know that is not the world we live in. I am sorry it had to be this way, but it had to be this way. I will continue to keep America safe with, or without the help of Republicans. I do wish however Republicans who have actually come forward and voiced their opinions about Donald Trump get credit where credit is due."

How many agree this is most likely the real truth?

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Why I Had A Personal E-Mail Server Explained (Original Post) Yallow Aug 2016 OP
Why did Colin Powell use an AOL account instead of the .gov system? pnwmom Aug 2016 #1
Exactly. DURHAM D Aug 2016 #5
I agree. That's what I've suspected all along. Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #2
Of couse she was using a more secure route Hortensis Aug 2016 #12
Awful! Work emails of government employees are government property... 4139 Aug 2016 #3
Nixon arranged burglary and wire taps- on what planet is that comparable? Lol. Nope. bettyellen Aug 2016 #7
And intentionally stealing government documents is what? The OP idea is awful! 4139 Aug 2016 #9
Stealing? Lol, nope. bettyellen Aug 2016 #10
Nixon would have HATED the Freedom of Information Act which gives us amandabeech Aug 2016 #15
More likely, it was this: stopbush Aug 2016 #4
Excellent post. I think you have nailed it. skylucy Aug 2016 #6
Plus the .gov system couldn't be used when traveling. n/t pnwmom Aug 2016 #14
^^^This!!! DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #18
Repeal the FOIA MichMan Aug 2016 #8
But it helps us go after people who are really nasty, like the Bushes. amandabeech Aug 2016 #16
Apparently we only support the FOIA when it is used against the other side n/t MichMan Aug 2016 #19
No surprise with that. n/t amandabeech Aug 2016 #20
Every company or institution has a policy not to use you email for personal use. vinny9698 Aug 2016 #11
Most of the above reasons seem viable. Skid Rogue Aug 2016 #13
Like the Russians, the Chinese or Islamic Extremists like ISIL or Al Quaeda? amandabeech Aug 2016 #17
Perhaps, my use of the word "threat" was a bit harsh, or too ambiguous. Skid Rogue Aug 2016 #21
Thanks, that makes more sense. amandabeech Aug 2016 #22

pnwmom

(110,260 posts)
1. Why did Colin Powell use an AOL account instead of the .gov system?
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 02:14 PM
Aug 2016

Because the .gov system was clunky, slow, and couldn't be used when traveling.

DURHAM D

(33,054 posts)
5. Exactly.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 03:16 PM
Aug 2016

For the State Department communication system to work everyone had to be in the office, sometimes in an office down the hall because there was no PC on their personal desk, and waste most of their time waiting for emails to be received. No travel and no work from home. I guess the other option was to live in the office and walk up and down the halls, stairs, looking for people you needed to talk to and as for foreign based employees...guess they are on their own.

Another option is to go in the tented room and use the cable system that runs through the DOD and allows low level ass wipes like Chelsea Manning to steal all the communications and give it to wikileaks. That worked out well.




Buckeye_Democrat

(15,526 posts)
2. I agree. That's what I've suspected all along.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 02:22 PM
Aug 2016

She didn't want her personal matters so open because of the right-wing attack machine that acts like the Spanish Inquisition over that nonsense.

It's hypocrisy that Powell used AOL for his e-mails and little is said about him deleting everything.

Complaints about Hillary deciding which e-mails were personal? Jeb Bush decided which of his personal e-mails could be deleted from when he was Governor of Florida, and little was said about that either.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Of couse she was using a more secure route
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:09 PM
Aug 2016

to keep her enemies out of State Department business.

Condoleeza Rice, like Powell, is now known to have sent a couple classified emails by non-State-Department route, but I suspect you could look at most very high and top-level officials in most branches of government, including other SoSs, and find worse than Hillary's use of her extremely expensive ex-president-husband's private server. How many others had that?

4139

(2,008 posts)
3. Awful! Work emails of government employees are government property...
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 02:37 PM
Aug 2016

This is Nixon on steroids. Terrible idea

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
7. Nixon arranged burglary and wire taps- on what planet is that comparable? Lol. Nope.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 04:12 PM
Aug 2016
 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
15. Nixon would have HATED the Freedom of Information Act which gives us
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 09:55 PM
Aug 2016

access to all e-mails and other work documents of our public servants.

Wasn't it passed not long after he was forced to resign?

Really, sunshine is an excellent disinfectant.

stopbush

(24,808 posts)
4. More likely, it was this:
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 02:52 PM
Aug 2016

1. DOS servers were slow and horribly insecure

2. Hillary and her predecessors in the job were encouraged if not required to set up or find their own more-secure way of sending and receiving emails. Proof: her predecessors did the same thing.

3. The only caveat was that you needed to keep it under wraps, lest our enemies find out that security on gov servers was crap

4. Rs in Congress knew this open secret. Their hope with the email witchhunt was to get Hillary to spill the beans on the lax security, which they then would have built into a huge treasonous monster. Hillary decided it was better to take one for the team and suffer personal recriminations from the Rs, rather than confirming to the world that our cyber security sucks in some areas.

MichMan

(17,149 posts)
8. Repeal the FOIA
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 04:15 PM
Aug 2016

First order of business should be a repeal of the FOIA. Idiots like Larry Klayman have no business going on a fishing expedition

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
16. But it helps us go after people who are really nasty, like the Bushes.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:00 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:37 PM - Edit history (1)

It is available to all of us, liberal, moderate or conservative.

Why shouldn't we be able to find out what are public servants are up to?

We pay their salaries through our tax dollars.

Why shouldn't we know what they're doing if they are on our payroll?

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
11. Every company or institution has a policy not to use you email for personal use.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:05 PM
Aug 2016

They do not want to use corporate resources for your personal use, also it a security issue, you limit the sources of malware effecting the network.

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
13. Most of the above reasons seem viable.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 08:21 PM
Aug 2016

Also, maybe she believed that an internal threat was more likely than an external threat.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
17. Like the Russians, the Chinese or Islamic Extremists like ISIL or Al Quaeda?
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:07 PM
Aug 2016

All are real threats to all of us.

I can't stand the Orange One. He's a bully, a braggart and a blowhard.

But I think that our system of government, the equal branches of our government, the legislature (Congress), the Courts, and the executive (the President) are strong enough to weather four years of the nasties in one or even two of the co-equal branches. We've made it since the late 1700's, after all, which is longer than anyone except the Brits, and they really had to make adjustments after George III who tried to do away with us.

But two of the external threats have nukes.

As much as I despise the Repukes, I don't think that they have nukes, at least not yet.

I'm interested in your reasoning here.

Skid Rogue

(711 posts)
21. Perhaps, my use of the word "threat" was a bit harsh, or too ambiguous.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:22 PM
Aug 2016

I certainly wasn't referring to something that could destroy all 3 branches of our government in a single cyber attack. Yes, that would be totally ridiculous.

I was thinking more along the lines of what happened with Chelsea Manning, or the VA records. If you google insider hacking, you'll find it's considered to be a larger security concern and more prevalent than external hacking.

Although, that attitude may change with all these new DNC/Dem attacks.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
22. Thanks, that makes more sense.
Sun Aug 14, 2016, 11:26 PM
Aug 2016

I have mixed feelings about the hacks.

Sometimes, information that helps the public make judgments comes out, and sometimes that's a good thing.

But sometimes, the hackers go too far. I'm thinking particularly about details that could endanger people in the field conducting espionage, and the people who have come in contact with them. They're helping, and their identity should be concealed.

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