2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy I Had A Personal E-Mail Server Explained
We can all guess why Hillary "made a mistake" and had a personal e-mail server. I think I know why, and it is not a mistake. Hillary could tell what I think is the truth, but she won't because she behaves like a president, and that is ok. I think this is what she could say if she decided to spill the beans, and I bet I am not far off.....
"I have been attacked relentlessly with baseless lies, and bogus "political" investigations for over 30 years. I also knew what would happen if a Republican in the State Department was able to view any of my communications which they could use to attack me in any way. I am sure any given Republican would risk national security to attack my family, as they have done exactly that for decades. The only way I could do my job keeping America safe, and looking out for America's interests was to make it impossible for Republicans to view any of my communications. In a perfect world Republicans would put America's security first, but we all know that is not the world we live in. I am sorry it had to be this way, but it had to be this way. I will continue to keep America safe with, or without the help of Republicans. I do wish however Republicans who have actually come forward and voiced their opinions about Donald Trump get credit where credit is due."
How many agree this is most likely the real truth?
pnwmom
(110,260 posts)Because the .gov system was clunky, slow, and couldn't be used when traveling.
For the State Department communication system to work everyone had to be in the office, sometimes in an office down the hall because there was no PC on their personal desk, and waste most of their time waiting for emails to be received. No travel and no work from home. I guess the other option was to live in the office and walk up and down the halls, stairs, looking for people you needed to talk to and as for foreign based employees...guess they are on their own.
Another option is to go in the tented room and use the cable system that runs through the DOD and allows low level ass wipes like Chelsea Manning to steal all the communications and give it to wikileaks. That worked out well.
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,526 posts)She didn't want her personal matters so open because of the right-wing attack machine that acts like the Spanish Inquisition over that nonsense.
It's hypocrisy that Powell used AOL for his e-mails and little is said about him deleting everything.
Complaints about Hillary deciding which e-mails were personal? Jeb Bush decided which of his personal e-mails could be deleted from when he was Governor of Florida, and little was said about that either.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to keep her enemies out of State Department business.
Condoleeza Rice, like Powell, is now known to have sent a couple classified emails by non-State-Department route, but I suspect you could look at most very high and top-level officials in most branches of government, including other SoSs, and find worse than Hillary's use of her extremely expensive ex-president-husband's private server. How many others had that?
4139
(2,008 posts)This is Nixon on steroids. Terrible idea
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)4139
(2,008 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)amandabeech
(9,893 posts)access to all e-mails and other work documents of our public servants.
Wasn't it passed not long after he was forced to resign?
Really, sunshine is an excellent disinfectant.
stopbush
(24,808 posts)1. DOS servers were slow and horribly insecure
2. Hillary and her predecessors in the job were encouraged if not required to set up or find their own more-secure way of sending and receiving emails. Proof: her predecessors did the same thing.
3. The only caveat was that you needed to keep it under wraps, lest our enemies find out that security on gov servers was crap
4. Rs in Congress knew this open secret. Their hope with the email witchhunt was to get Hillary to spill the beans on the lax security, which they then would have built into a huge treasonous monster. Hillary decided it was better to take one for the team and suffer personal recriminations from the Rs, rather than confirming to the world that our cyber security sucks in some areas.
skylucy
(4,024 posts)pnwmom
(110,260 posts)DemonGoddess
(5,127 posts)Agree with all points you made
MichMan
(17,149 posts)First order of business should be a repeal of the FOIA. Idiots like Larry Klayman have no business going on a fishing expedition
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)Last edited Sun Aug 14, 2016, 10:37 PM - Edit history (1)
It is available to all of us, liberal, moderate or conservative.
Why shouldn't we be able to find out what are public servants are up to?
We pay their salaries through our tax dollars.
Why shouldn't we know what they're doing if they are on our payroll?
MichMan
(17,149 posts)amandabeech
(9,893 posts)vinny9698
(1,016 posts)They do not want to use corporate resources for your personal use, also it a security issue, you limit the sources of malware effecting the network.
Skid Rogue
(711 posts)Also, maybe she believed that an internal threat was more likely than an external threat.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)All are real threats to all of us.
I can't stand the Orange One. He's a bully, a braggart and a blowhard.
But I think that our system of government, the equal branches of our government, the legislature (Congress), the Courts, and the executive (the President) are strong enough to weather four years of the nasties in one or even two of the co-equal branches. We've made it since the late 1700's, after all, which is longer than anyone except the Brits, and they really had to make adjustments after George III who tried to do away with us.
But two of the external threats have nukes.
As much as I despise the Repukes, I don't think that they have nukes, at least not yet.
I'm interested in your reasoning here.
Skid Rogue
(711 posts)I certainly wasn't referring to something that could destroy all 3 branches of our government in a single cyber attack. Yes, that would be totally ridiculous.
I was thinking more along the lines of what happened with Chelsea Manning, or the VA records. If you google insider hacking, you'll find it's considered to be a larger security concern and more prevalent than external hacking.
Although, that attitude may change with all these new DNC/Dem attacks.
amandabeech
(9,893 posts)I have mixed feelings about the hacks.
Sometimes, information that helps the public make judgments comes out, and sometimes that's a good thing.
But sometimes, the hackers go too far. I'm thinking particularly about details that could endanger people in the field conducting espionage, and the people who have come in contact with them. They're helping, and their identity should be concealed.