2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI don't mind sane Republicans supporting Hillary.
If the party I love nominated someone like Trump and he was running against a sane Republican I would vote for him or her.
The world and country come first.
salin
(48,955 posts)They don't seem to be saying that they expect her to change the platform, many say they disagree with some policies/positions - but the danger of Trump at the helm supersedes the concerns over the disagreement.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)Who knows what would have happened if he wasn't shot and paralyzed?
I couldn't vote then but he certainly wouldn't have got my vote.
salin
(48,955 posts)I don't think he fathomed that Reagan could win.
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)We don't need the architects of the Iraq War on our side, even if they do think Hillary is better than Trump. Just because they get that supremely easy question right doesn't make up for everything else.
Squinch
(51,025 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)if some Republicans choose to vote for the alternative candidates our system offers them. Our system is not meant to offer rigid blocs one choice each, crossing to the other candidate being some kind of unthinkable treason.
Btw, political bigotry and discrimination have become big national problems that are as real and destructive as bigotry for other reasons. This pernicious influence is something everyone who wants to be a "good" citizen needs to fight in himself.
But probably no one should worry that strong conservatives would actually join a liberal-dominated Democratic Party. Most would rather stick a finger in their eye. The differences in personality that lead to political alignments are literally wired into our brains genetically and don't just go away.
Squinch
(51,025 posts)less rabid Republicans have been forced by their party to switch over, and they decide that Hillary is their candidate, I am hoping that vote of theirs gives them a feeling of having some stake in her presidency.
I am hoping that it will make them look at what they have been led to believe about her, and contrast that with what she actually does and is.
And I am hoping that this will make them drop the Republicans forever.
You are right about the hard wiring, and we have ALWAYS had the two parties, and they have always been warring. But at times in our history, one party would implode (always the more conservative) and the other would for a short time able to call the shots. I am hoping we are on the threshold of that.
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)Why trot out Bush administration officials endorsing our candidate? They have no credibility with anybody except maybe the 4% of GOP primary voters that voted for Jeb.
Squinch
(51,025 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)They have not hopped on board.
They have said that Trump is a danger to national security. Thier letter did not endorse HRC.
It's important to recognize this fact.
Kaleva
(36,356 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Don't care how sane they are.
We have a government elected by a majority of those who vote.
Squinch
(51,025 posts)psychological effect that makes them feel they have a stake in her presidency? Maybe it'll make them less shitty this time around?
Not holding my breath, mind you.
Mz Pip
(27,454 posts)I'm glad there are done sane ones out there who understand that there's more to politics than party loyalty.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)was said earlier, I doubt it's so much they support HC; they just don't want a President Trump. I suspect these disgruntled Republicans are among the main people who push the "lesser of 2 evils" idea this year. They know their own party's nominee is incompetent and lacks the qualifications to effectively serve, but they also dislike HC and see her as corrupt, a con-artist, etc. Those who are willing to vote for her do so not because they're in love with her like many of us are, but because they're aware of the distinct possibility of doom that a Trump administration would bring for the country. I also often contemplate how they would vote down-ballot. I'm thinking that most of them might still vote in favor of a GOP-controlled House and Senate, which will mean the same obstruction for HC that the current administration has had to endure. Nevertheless, I welcome their votes for HC and their efforts to get her elected.
pnwmom
(109,000 posts)Demsrule86
(68,703 posts)I can't believe some are upset because Hillary takes votes from the GOP...that is how landslides happen.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,716 posts)If you go by how they campaigned and not how they governed Trump represents a dramatic departure from democratic norms and the rule of law.