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cali

(114,904 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:48 AM Aug 2016

What I Believe: Trump must be crushed. Not just beaten, broken.

He needs to lose in a landslide.

Trump isn't just mentally unstable. He's not just an epic egoist. He's not merely a narcissist.

Donald Trump is a classic "strong man"

He would, as President, attempt to operate as he does now and how he always has- as a brutish dictator, who believes only in his own supremacy.

He has already done incalculable damage. I mean that literally. We cannot, as of yet, fully calculate the damage he's incurred.

I don't know what kind of damage he could do as President, how far he could take it, how much he could get away with, but I don't want to find out.

As a nation, we need to repudiate Trump and those who follow him as completely as possible.

That's why I'll phone bank for HRC.

She'll win, but he needs to be crushed. The republican party needs to be crushed and put together again- hopefully by people with some degree sanity and integrity.

Donald Trump is toxic. His followers beliefs are toxic. It's difficult to find any humanity in Trump. Nothing beyond "I want..., me, me, me".

Trump is toxic in a way that far exceeds Bush or Reagan. I believe he'd actually try to use nuclear weapons.

Mentally unstable combined with a lack of humanity is about as dangerous a combination as can be imagined.

Like a grotesque Pandora, he has further opened a box that was cracked open by President Obama daring to President while black. And that's just one box.

Force and violence are unpleasant realities, but when they are in the forefront, we lose everything- to paraphrase E.M. Forster.

Donald Trump embodies force and violence, brutish power and precious little else.




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What I Believe: Trump must be crushed. Not just beaten, broken. (Original Post) cali Aug 2016 OP
I wonder if his campaign will freeze his Twitter account, while the election results are coming in Siwsan Aug 2016 #1
I'll stay up for the concession PJMcK Aug 2016 #4
I look forward to the concession, also. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2016 #6
I like your first best part! (n/t) PJMcK Aug 2016 #9
I wish my mom was here to see this. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2016 #22
I wish my Mom was here too...she would be so excited Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #54
Now that I think about it, the Adrenalin Rush might make sleep impossible. Siwsan Aug 2016 #8
No way he will go down gracefully on his own. lark Aug 2016 #38
he won't concede NewJeffCT Aug 2016 #15
You're right about that. From the way that young people are abandoning Don the Con in droves, catbyte Aug 2016 #34
Last place Marty 65 Aug 2016 #94
I would be surprised if he gives a concession speech liberal N proud Aug 2016 #30
I doubt he'll ever concede. That would be consistent COLGATE4 Aug 2016 #46
If he does, it will be chock full of sour grapes. Chemisse Aug 2016 #55
Yeah, whining about how he was cheated out of his obvious victory COLGATE4 Aug 2016 #67
He wont MFM008 Aug 2016 #49
Great rant, cali PJMcK Aug 2016 #2
So You Got Your 50 Non Voters To Agree To Vote Like Michael Moore Said? Yallow Aug 2016 #21
Hear, hear...I'm working hard in CT to elect Hillary... First Speaker Aug 2016 #3
We need a democratic landslide workinclasszero Aug 2016 #5
More importantly, any who endorsed him need to lose credibility and office... Orsino Aug 2016 #7
Trump must lose to save the country... world wide wally Aug 2016 #10
We crush him! And take full advantage of this historic election ALBliberal Aug 2016 #11
Absolutely, cali. Trump must be crushed to DESTROY his politics & his kind of politician. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #12
And we need to elect many more Dems downticket of we want any progress bettyellen Aug 2016 #13
He might fake a medical reason to quit vlyons Aug 2016 #14
That would not surprise me cali Aug 2016 #16
yeah, I was thinking that too Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #18
His loser speech on election night will go down in history vlyons Aug 2016 #25
Yep! Amen! Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #47
It would not surprise me to hear him call for violence. Still In Wisconsin Aug 2016 #57
yes, admitting any defeat is just not in his character es35 Aug 2016 #85
fake assassination attempt. mopinko Aug 2016 #28
He can write his own excuse note from his "doctor"--the same one who said how healthy DTs is. Hekate Aug 2016 #39
But that's an admission of weakness. "I DON'T DO WEAK! I'M THE bullwinkle428 Aug 2016 #60
yes, totally yes. I was ok with Hillary to begin with, but wow, she freaking has to win. Fast Walker 52 Aug 2016 #17
He's the backlash to the excellence of PBO..a President who's (Eeeeeeek!!!!!)... Black. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #19
You can phone bank from home. cali Aug 2016 #26
I think I'd rather do it there. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #44
Concur. Crush him and his cronies like a bug DinahMoeHum Aug 2016 #20
ROFL! BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2016 #45
i am not one for revenge... berksdem Aug 2016 #23
The OP isn't about revenge. I don't personally hate Trump. cali Aug 2016 #87
Yes... crushed like a walnut WheelWalker Aug 2016 #24
Yes...crushed like a grape. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2016 #27
I Want to See Donnie Go Down in Flames Leith Aug 2016 #29
Post removed Post removed Aug 2016 #31
It's a terrible echo chamber. Criticism of Clinton is met poorly, horribly, cali Aug 2016 #36
If we want significant change, we need a Democratic majority in the house and senate. DanTex Aug 2016 #40
Oh, don't worry. Just as soon as the votes are counted I expect a replay of the scene here re Obama Hekate Aug 2016 #48
Thanks for your reply. By the way, I recommend Thomas Frank's new book, Ron Green Aug 2016 #75
My sentiments exactly! He needs to go down in a big way! Hillary needs to be declared the winner Liberal In Red State Aug 2016 #32
You know, those of us who live West of the Mississippi really despise that mindset. Hekate Aug 2016 #51
They will . . . That will be the Avalanche! Just like when Reagan was elected . . . I want the Liberal In Red State Aug 2016 #68
The is the schoolyard bully grown up. Dawson Leery Aug 2016 #33
I dont want to see Don he Con destroyed a much as I want to see the Pub Party destroyed! napi21 Aug 2016 #35
I want Trump to not only... 3catwoman3 Aug 2016 #37
I'm starting to buy into the theory he doesn't want to win Gman Aug 2016 #41
What I believe leimen Aug 2016 #42
Excactly, thanks for the piece, just as I've been saying to all that will listen... downeastdaniel Aug 2016 #43
I`m sickened by Donald Trump. democrank Aug 2016 #50
Former SoS George Schultz on a Trump Presidency: "God help us". cali Aug 2016 #52
That we agree on! Trump is running for Dicator in chief... Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #53
I agree. DawgHouse Aug 2016 #56
The world's perception Mr.Bill Aug 2016 #58
I agree, for Bernie Sanders' indisputable reasons: ancianita Aug 2016 #59
Needs to be embarrassed...landslide of EPIC proportions bmills1608 Aug 2016 #61
No, we must support Trump, sing his praises, marvel at his deeds ... JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2016 #62
K&R! DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #63
It is up to us to make this happen Docbroke Aug 2016 #64
Icing on the cake lillypaddle Aug 2016 #65
yes, though that's not my point. The sentiments expressed in the OP are not grounded in cali Aug 2016 #74
I understand lillypaddle Aug 2016 #77
There's countries threatening sanctions against us if he wins. Initech Aug 2016 #66
K&R! napkinz Aug 2016 #69
Because there is an entire WORLD, and we are losing ground in it because of him and his ilk. nolabear Aug 2016 #70
So VERY true! Did you write this Cali? vkkv Aug 2016 #71
I did. cali Aug 2016 #72
+infinity^infinity! nt LostOne4Ever Aug 2016 #73
OMG, you read my mind AwakeAtLast Aug 2016 #76
Thanks. cali Aug 2016 #88
Even a huge, landslide loss by Trump will not be the end of the danger, by a long-shot nikto Aug 2016 #78
This is what we should have done to GWB. grahamhgreen Aug 2016 #79
You couldn't be more correct!!! CRUSHED!! nt glennward Aug 2016 #80
The Republican Party put back together by people with sanity & integrity? MarianJack Aug 2016 #81
Sigh. I know. But she's better than Kelly Ayotte. Cold comfort, I know. cali Aug 2016 #89
True. MarianJack Aug 2016 #91
He needs the snot beaten out of him. And his whole accursed Bronze-Age-mentality party, too. calimary Aug 2016 #82
He and his family should be deported. nt onehandle Aug 2016 #83
Dems are predicting an "extinction event" for the GOP on the order of what killed the dinosaurs es35 Aug 2016 #84
Trump Stakes™ trusty elf Aug 2016 #86
could Russia hack the election computers? tomp Aug 2016 #90
I totally agree Lithos Aug 2016 #92
Thank you. Glad to see you post. Anytime. Anywhere. cali Aug 2016 #93
EZ joshcryer Aug 2016 #95
Yes! A REAL Landslide... freebrew Aug 2016 #96
I'd pay to see ... GeorgeGist Aug 2016 #97
I'm sure the movie script is being written. cali Aug 2016 #98
amen to that Cali.. amen to that! Peacetrain Aug 2016 #99

Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
1. I wonder if his campaign will freeze his Twitter account, while the election results are coming in
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:59 AM
Aug 2016

That would be some interesting mind spew to read.

If things go the way they are currently trending, I could see the election being all but officially called for Hillary Clinton, before 11pm, eastern standard time.

I have this secret hope that someone, who is silently disaffected in his campaign, will secretly film him watching the returns and then release it. I also believe I won't bother waiting up for him to concede because that's going to be a struggle for him, and I don't really know if he's capable of admitting defeat.

Can the GOP concede, even if he doesn't?

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
4. I'll stay up for the concession
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:04 AM
Aug 2016

When he loses the election, and if he gives a concession speech, I want to see it first-hand. It will be a unique moment in this jackass's life and will mark the beginning of the end of this sorry excuse of a human being. It will be a sight to behold.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
6. I look forward to the concession, also.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:15 AM
Aug 2016

I think it will be the second best part of this highly entertaining campaign season.

First best part: President Hillary Rodham Clinton

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
22. I wish my mom was here to see this.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:18 PM
Aug 2016

I can remember her strong defense of Hillary, when Hillary was Arkansas' First Lady. She taught me a lot about standing up for what is right.

She would be immensely proud.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
54. I wish my Mom was here too...she would be so excited
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:16 PM
Aug 2016

She loved Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. She was a strong smart woman...and is missed very much.

Siwsan

(26,260 posts)
8. Now that I think about it, the Adrenalin Rush might make sleep impossible.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:24 AM
Aug 2016

As I recall, I was up for most of the night of every General Election, since 2000. Sometimes a bad rush, sometimes a good one.
I always have that bottle of something bubbly ready for popping, and it seems a shame to re-cork any leftovers.

I just have the feeling that he is not going to go down without a fight, no matter how big the landslide may be.

lark

(23,097 posts)
38. No way he will go down gracefully on his own.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:44 PM
Aug 2016

He'd be ordering his supporters to storm the ballot places, steal the discs, do whatever is needed to throw out and disrupt the "stolen" (in his view) election. The question is will his staff or the RNC stop him from that foolishness or will this end in chaos?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
15. he won't concede
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:58 AM
Aug 2016

He'll rant and rave about Crooked Hillary rigging the election, and he'll threaten to sue every state elections commission/secretary of state where he lost. He'll also threaten to sue leading members of the media - CNN, NY Times, Washington Post, etc. He'll sue Meredith McIver for plagiarizing Michelle Obama, Corey Lewandowski, Paul Manafort, Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, etc, etc.

Meanwhile, the country will move on while he's stamping his feet in a childish temper tantrum and his lawsuits will be laughed out of court.

The revolution from his followers will peter out from embarrassment when he gets 30% of the vote, and in 20 years, there will be nobody around that will actually admit to being a Trump voter.

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
34. You're right about that. From the way that young people are abandoning Don the Con in droves,
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:33 PM
Aug 2016

all of his supporters will either be pushing up daisies or ensconced in a room at Happy Acres Retirement Home.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
46. I doubt he'll ever concede. That would be consistent
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:59 PM
Aug 2016

with his adolescent temper and egotism. I think the networks will declare for Hillary with nary a word from der Trumpenfuhrer.

Chemisse

(30,810 posts)
55. If he does, it will be chock full of sour grapes.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:17 PM
Aug 2016

The video of this could stand as a lesson for children all across the land, with parents saying, "See, this is how stupid and obnoxious you look if you're a sore loser."

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
67. Yeah, whining about how he was cheated out of his obvious victory
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 02:01 PM
Aug 2016

by the lamestream media and Crooked Hillary.

PJMcK

(22,035 posts)
2. Great rant, cali
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:01 AM
Aug 2016

I'm with you. Donald Trump must lose by an historic amount. His loss should be so huge that it ends the Republican stranglehold on our country.

As an added bonus, Mr. Trump's loss should destroy him. I want him crushed and completely ruined. He is, as you wrote, toxic. He's also profoundly stupid and is the living example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. He is remarkably incurious and ill-informed. His ego is so overpowering that he's insufferable.

After he loses the election, his trial for Trump University will get underway. One of the cases is based on the RICO statutes and, if convicted, he could face jail time. Like I said, I want him destroyed and gone from our collective consciousness.

Donald Trump is an idiot and so is anyone who votes for him.

 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
21. So You Got Your 50 Non Voters To Agree To Vote Like Michael Moore Said?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:15 PM
Aug 2016

If we all get 50 we slaughter the barbarian hordes.

If we don't they keep their ability to disrupt our nation's business.

It's not Trump, it is demoralizing his minions.

Without the brain dead followers, Trump is nothing.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
3. Hear, hear...I'm working hard in CT to elect Hillary...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:02 AM
Aug 2016

...My God. I never thought I'd see an election like this--a candidate like this. This is worse than 1968.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
5. We need a democratic landslide
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:04 AM
Aug 2016

across the board for sure.

America needs to lock the insane republicans in the attic for good!

We are not going back to the 50's so F them!

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
7. More importantly, any who endorsed him need to lose credibility and office...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:16 AM
Aug 2016

...along with anyone else coasting on corporate-sponsored nativism and anti-intellectualism.

ALBliberal

(2,339 posts)
11. We crush him! And take full advantage of this historic election
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:34 AM
Aug 2016

Up and down ballot. No complacency! And Hillary please take this moment in history which I believe was made for you and govern like you are campaigning ....decisive inclusive empathetic strong no hesitation.... and keep your eye on that prize of Democratic majority.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
14. He might fake a medical reason to quit
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:57 AM
Aug 2016

Like a heart attack. He doesn't like to lose. Already the GOP wants to ditch him as a candidate. A fake heart attack would be the perfect excuse to opt out of the race. Of course Mike Spence would be pretty easy to beat if there were enough time to inform voters about the dangers of a Spence presidency. I guess around Oct 1 would be the very latest for the GOP to put up a new candidate.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
18. yeah, I was thinking that too
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:07 PM
Aug 2016

some fake medical excuse, except that would show he's weak. So maybe not.

He'll probably just blame everyone else except himself, when he gets creamed. That seems to be his MO.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
25. His loser speech on election night will go down in history
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:23 PM
Aug 2016

I doubt that he will be able to graciously concede on election night. Remember how gracious Al Gore was in his concession speech? No way will Trump be able to do likewise. I predict that Trump will far far surpass Nixon's "You won't have Richard Nixon to kick around any more" sore loser withdrawal. I must confess that I feel a little glee at the prospect of seeing Trump experience the humiliation that's heading his way come election night. Totally his own making however. I also imagine that HRC will have something gracious to say to Republicans, because she is a very classy lady.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
57. It would not surprise me to hear him call for violence.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:29 PM
Aug 2016

You know, something along the lines of "Everybody knows this was rigged for Crooked Hillary... lots of people are saying there will be trouble now... I am hearing about plans to revolt" etc. etc. etc.

es35

(132 posts)
85. yes, admitting any defeat is just not in his character
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 12:50 AM
Aug 2016

He's the same as any strongman here - hitler, mussolini. Hitler committed suicide and finally gave his Church sufficient reason to excommunicate him - (murdering millions just didn't have sufficient weight with them). Trump is really a bad guy. We just haven't actually experienced the horrors he could inflict on our country let alone on us Democrats and progressives. His call to harm Hillary was very predictive of what he would do to us. He really should be held legally accountable for it. We should not let the American people forget that he got away with inciting an assassination. He comes very close to fascists, nazis and other right wing extremists by that act.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
19. He's the backlash to the excellence of PBO..a President who's (Eeeeeeek!!!!!)... Black.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:12 PM
Aug 2016


You inspire me to get off my giant agoraphobic ass and head over to the local Dem's headquarters.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
44. I think I'd rather do it there.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:55 PM
Aug 2016

My "agoraphobia" is more about getting out the door, or going out of my comfort zone!

Once I'm past that, I'm pretty good...and doing calls alongside other folks would keep me disciplined and on task.

It's worse being home alone and making calls!!! Evil phone machine!!!! AGHHH! Yikes! Much worse!

berksdem

(595 posts)
23. i am not one for revenge...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:19 PM
Aug 2016

but I would love nothing more than to see this crackpot lose in historic fashion just to crush his ego. although, I don't believe for a minute that he will quit before the election or go away quietly. the narrative has been spoken too many times thus far - crooked elections, crooked Hillary, the people love me, yadda yadda yadda...

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
87. The OP isn't about revenge. I don't personally hate Trump.
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 05:33 AM
Aug 2016

this is far more pressing than vendettas against one man or the republican party.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
29. I Want to See Donnie Go Down in Flames
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:25 PM
Aug 2016

If he gets 25% of the popular vote, it will be too many. If he gets more than 50 electoral college votes, it will be too many. I want the whole country to shout "NO!" so even he and his braindead supporters can't deny the loss.

I want to do a version of the Dead Parrot Sketch about the Orange Blowhard.

Response to cali (Original post)

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
36. It's a terrible echo chamber. Criticism of Clinton is met poorly, horribly,
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:39 PM
Aug 2016

no matter how valid or mild or constructive it is. I've still posted criticism of her and her campaign, albeit mild and devoid of any nefarious motives. Most of the reactions are disturbing.

This op is about, well, what I believe about trump and his devotees.

I don't trust Clinton on a host of issues.

but her flaws pale in comparison to the dangers I believe trump and trumpism poses.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
40. If we want significant change, we need a Democratic majority in the house and senate.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:48 PM
Aug 2016

As well as a Democratic president.

Hekate

(90,662 posts)
48. Oh, don't worry. Just as soon as the votes are counted I expect a replay of the scene here re Obama
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:07 PM
Aug 2016

Obama, according to a very vocal faction at DU, "failed" to deliver on so many promises he never actually made that the number of groups who allegedly were "thrown under the bus" by Obama his own self got to be uncountable.

That created, incidentally, it's own kind of echo chamber in the main fora of DU. Those of us who genuinely liked the man and his character and were willing to wait for events to unfold ended up hanging out in the BOG for a good part of the last 7 years.

Long before this date, and despite the intractable opposition of the House, Senate, and media, Obama's accomplishments began to rack up. The actual promises he made were ticked off the list. Those of us who understood his mindset could see the incremental steps that were being taken were enormously significant in laying the solid foundation for the final outcome -- for instance, on gay marriage. We celebrated in the BOG.

Out in GD... well, sometimes the claim that one doesn't have an echo chamber seems a little hollow.

So, don't worry. Unless Skinner really means to keep the new TOS in place after HRC is sworn in, I expect to spend a lot of time over in the HRC Room. This, of course, is just my ironic take on the culture here, based on 14 years' experience.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
75. Thanks for your reply. By the way, I recommend Thomas Frank's new book,
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:39 PM
Aug 2016
Listen, Liberal: What Ever Happened to the Party of the People? - A book of great importance that I've never seen discussed here.
32. My sentiments exactly! He needs to go down in a big way! Hillary needs to be declared the winner
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:31 PM
Aug 2016

Before polls close west of the Mississippi so that as the results of the western states come it . . . It appears to be an avalanche! And the Senate and House need to change hands! We need to elect Dems across the board and run the GOP out of any position of authority!

Hekate

(90,662 posts)
51. You know, those of us who live West of the Mississippi really despise that mindset.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:11 PM
Aug 2016

California, for instance, is the most heavily-populated state in the union. We like to imagine our votes actually mean something.

68. They will . . . That will be the Avalanche! Just like when Reagan was elected . . . I want the
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 02:33 PM
Aug 2016

Senate and House to turn Blue as everyone jumps on the band wagon! There were good people who were voted out of office when the Reagan landslide happened. Time to return the favor! The west needs to be the punctuation mark!

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
33. The is the schoolyard bully grown up.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:33 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Wed Aug 17, 2016, 11:31 AM - Edit history (1)

Why else would all the bigots and small men support him. Pro wrestlers, wrestlers in general (Iowa State team came out for Donnie.).
Stallone/Willis/Van Damne(who is an open racist) all support Trump.

We must crush the GOP, destroy them. They are the cancer of fascism.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
35. I dont want to see Don he Con destroyed a much as I want to see the Pub Party destroyed!
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:37 PM
Aug 2016

When the con loses, he; rant and rage for a while, then go back to his royal palace and live as before. IF the party he's heading now is destroyed, the World will be a much better place for a very long time. At least until a replacement party can build a following, and THAT takes a LONG TIME!

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
37. I want Trump to not only...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:40 PM
Aug 2016

...be toast, but to be creamed chipped beef on toast - the despised military meal also known as "shit on a shingle."

A fitting description of this boorish scumbag.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
41. I'm starting to buy into the theory he doesn't want to win
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:50 PM
Aug 2016

He never expected to and it's too much work. And it jives well with the report that when he offered Pence job he said Pence cold perform the day to day stuff. Trump would do the rest.

leimen

(13 posts)
42. What I believe
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 12:52 PM
Aug 2016

Please let's not get overconfident. We need to get the vote out. This could easily go the other way if we sit back smugly. Please work for a Democratic victory up and down the lines.

democrank

(11,094 posts)
50. I`m sickened by Donald Trump.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:08 PM
Aug 2016

When George W. Bush was in office, I began to miss President Reagan, but soon after Trump announced his intentions to seek the Republican nomination, I started to miss George W. Bush. Now that Trump is in full authoritarian swing, I miss every Republican candidate who came before him.

Donald Trump is the living, breathing embodiment of a zillion Republican chickens coming home to roost. Even with a teleprompter, his eggs aren`t edible and there is chicken crap everywhere.

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
53. That we agree on! Trump is running for Dicator in chief...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:14 PM
Aug 2016

not Commander-in-Chief. He is dangerous.

Mr.Bill

(24,284 posts)
58. The world's perception
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:30 PM
Aug 2016

of the intelligence of the American people is on the line here. It was damaged enough when W got elected twice.

As they said in Chicago in the summer of '68, "The whole world is watching".

 

bmills1608

(5 posts)
61. Needs to be embarrassed...landslide of EPIC proportions
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:38 PM
Aug 2016

Good post and I agree 100%. This election can't be close...it must be a crushing demoralizing embarrassing total defeat of this clown. Don't get me wrong...any type of Hillary win is needed, but a landslide might change the game.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
62. No, we must support Trump, sing his praises, marvel at his deeds ...
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:40 PM
Aug 2016

and write poetry to his greatness.

"'My name is Donald J. Trump, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

At least until October, when it's too late for the Repubs to replace him on ballots.



(poetry by Shelley, modified by Vogon poets)

 

Docbroke

(15 posts)
64. It is up to us to make this happen
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:41 PM
Aug 2016

We cannot rest. we have to assume Trump will win and work hard to get registered Dems to vote.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
74. yes, though that's not my point. The sentiments expressed in the OP are not grounded in
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:33 PM
Aug 2016

personal animus.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
66. There's countries threatening sanctions against us if he wins.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 01:45 PM
Aug 2016

Trump is a 100% clear sign that the morons of this country have taken over and refuse to give up their power. They started with the fucking Tea Party and now it is going to end here.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
72. I did.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 03:27 PM
Aug 2016

It's inspired by a series of "What I believe" that started with Bertrand Russell's essay by that name in 1925, was followed by E.M. Forster's astonishing essay of the same name published in The Nation in July of 1938, and riffed on many times over the years. NPR ran a series by that name within the last few years.

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
78. Even a huge, landslide loss by Trump will not be the end of the danger, by a long-shot
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 06:32 PM
Aug 2016

The real problem for America, isn't Trump.

Can you guess what it is?

It is the tens of millions of people who passionately support him.
They, or their families, in millions of cases, have been hurt by an economy that favors
investors, bankers and corporations. In addition, these folks' emotions and perceptions have been
twisted like pretzels by the racist-tinged, highly-manipulative, NON-STOP avalanche of
venal, dishonest BS that is FoxNooz, vicious hate-radio talk-show hosts, and the hideous RW media
in general.

In addition, the racist fringe of America has joined in, with an ugly enthusiasm for attacking civil rights.
Put 'em all together, and you've got the "Trumpers".

The real Frankenstein's Monster is this group of many millions of enraged, and very confused and hateful Americans
who will only be frustrated further by Trump's defeat. They are not going anywhere.
They will, if history is to be any lesson for us, choose more and more extreme representatives to insert their hopes, fears and hatreds into, in an escalating pattern, possibly culminating in a future candidate far worse than Trump.

A solid Progressive agenda put forth by the Democratic Party, strongly and persistently, that truly helps the US middle class and working class to recover some sense of economic security,
earning power and HOPE
, would go a considerable way towards eroding and moderating this angry sub-group,
and reducing both their numbers and their intensity.

But if both parties continue their intensely pro-corporate/pro-big-business course on economic policies, IMO,
things will continue to escalate and tilt frighteningly rightward.

In the classic example of Nazi Germany, the Nazi Party only got 37% of the vote. That may not be as many
as the "Trumpers" may be right now, in America. In 1930s Germany, The rest of the citizenry were pulled, or dragged, along, ultimately, by this minority, to disaster.
With the economic collapse Germany endured, that was all it took (37%) to bend the country to the extreme rightwing.

If that collapse could have been somehow lessened or neutralized for the majority of working people,
the 3rd Reich may never have come to power.

There will always be extremist groups and candidates, but history show us clearly:
Economics matter.

Bad economics clearly empowers tyranny and oppression. This a major lesson of History.
It behooves us to heed that in America, at this critical juncture.


A bad economy for working people, combined with a common sense of citizen helplessness in trying to change it,
empowers tyrants every time.


FoXNooz and the toxic US RW media ain't going anywhere (except maybe Hell).

The milions of angry, confused "Trumpers" will
still be searching, as drug-addicts do, for ever more potent sources of intoxication.

If the "bad whiskey" of past Republicans who damaged America, like Reagan and Dubya, has given way to the "cocaine" of Trump, then, we must ask-------if Trump fails,
what future candidate will be this group's heroin? Or crack?
Or meth?

If either party does not step-up to save America's middle class, the Trumpers will just get more and more extreme,
as will the "leaders" they are likely to put up, endangering our future, as much or MORE, as Trump endangers us now.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
81. The Republican Party put back together by people with sanity & integrity?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 08:51 PM
Aug 2016

True, but if the best they can come up with for leadership is our Maine senior senator, the spine of oatmeal Susan Collins, it'll never happen!

PEACE!

calimary

(81,222 posts)
82. He needs the snot beaten out of him. And his whole accursed Bronze-Age-mentality party, too.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 09:08 PM
Aug 2016

I hope they all collapse along with Trumpty Dumpty.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
90. could Russia hack the election computers?
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 06:07 AM
Aug 2016

Between republican and russian operatives we could see interesting results.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
92. I totally agree
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 08:16 AM
Aug 2016

I'm working all of my friends to vote for HRC. Those on the RW spectrum who would not vote for her for various reasons, I've been suggesting Gary Johnson. Those who favor Jill Stein, well, I'm pushing HRC or to disengage as I do not want them distracting from HRC at this point.

Not one vote for Trump.

freebrew

(1,917 posts)
96. Yes! A REAL Landslide...
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 10:17 AM
Aug 2016

not this 52% to whatever, even 10%.

Let's go for the 80/20 split so the Dems can claim a REAL majority.

"Cause if von Dickface or whatever his name is gets in office, it would be Pres. Spence
in a split second.

The letter of resignation or of impeachment is ready and waiting, I'd bet.

The guy looks like he's going to explode. His BP must be really up there.
Probably higher than anyone else anyway, you know really high, you can't imagine how high.

It's so high...

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