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Um. Pres. Obama lost the first debate! (Original Post) Sky Masterson Nov 2012 OP
I still side with the rope-a-dope theory. FarPoint Nov 2012 #1
You sound like one of those Faux News viewers who lives in their own bubble of reality Larkspur Nov 2012 #2
Please edit: "you sound like Faux News viewer" comment. FarPoint Nov 2012 #5
You're welcome to your opinion, but just because others don't agree is no reason.... OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #9
+++ Whisp Nov 2012 #10
Thank You.... FarPoint Nov 2012 #11
I'm going with failed nice guy tactic. BenzoDia Nov 2012 #3
This was my theory all along. Sky Masterson Nov 2012 #4
Made things worse for the GOP Andy Stanton Nov 2012 #6
Exactly... FarPoint Nov 2012 #8
I always said, The President did great to let Mitt spew his box of lies to the world. Sunlei Nov 2012 #7
Obama was surprised by the Romney's baldfaced lies during the 1st debate. Old and In the Way Nov 2012 #12

FarPoint

(12,424 posts)
1. I still side with the rope-a-dope theory.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:05 AM
Nov 2012

More so now as our ground game was in-place since 2009 and evolved, morphed and re-morphed into 2012 like a Tsunami....and it was stealth! Romney had a glass jaw....and he never saw it coming.

The first debate was delivered by President Obama just the way he wanted it to go.

In my opinion.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
2. You sound like one of those Faux News viewers who lives in their own bubble of reality
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:10 AM
Nov 2012

Pres. Obama was listless in the first debate and he followed the path of most incumbent Presidents: they lost the first debate. Only Bill Clinton won his first debate as an incumbent.
There is no shame in that as long as they bring their A game to the remaining debates, which Obama did. I thought Pres. Obama, who is not a great debater, did an excellent job in the final 2 debates.

FarPoint

(12,424 posts)
5. Please edit: "you sound like Faux News viewer" comment.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:26 AM
Nov 2012

I find it highly insulting.

Your opinion is fine...this is a discussion but don't go there please.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
9. You're welcome to your opinion, but just because others don't agree is no reason....
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:00 AM
Nov 2012

...to start comparing them to anything associated with Faux News.

Oh, by the way, I happen to believe the President won the first debate based on the fact Romney lied every chance he got. If you want to give a debate victory to a proven liar, feel free, but don't push that nonsense on everyone else.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
10. +++
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:06 AM
Nov 2012

thank you.

but that nonsense was pushed on all of us by the likes of the hefties that are supposedly on our side and with the biggest megaphone: MSNBC.

Are they gullible? Unprofessional? Narcissistic? Not very good at their jobs? Just looking for drama? Sheep bleating whatever Fox says?


Whichever it was doesn't make them look very good and no matter how many nice lists they make now and no matter how they seem to be so gleeful Obama won, that is what I will remember. Their laziness, or whatever one of the above it was.

Andy Stanton

(264 posts)
6. Made things worse for the GOP
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:35 AM
Nov 2012

It raised their hopes, which made Obama's smashing victory even MORE devastating to them.

FarPoint

(12,424 posts)
8. Exactly...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:53 AM
Nov 2012

It was implementation of big plan....not an "at the moment" debate. The trap had to be set.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. I always said, The President did great to let Mitt spew his box of lies to the world.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:41 AM
Nov 2012

Then he owned him forever.

Old and In the Way

(37,540 posts)
12. Obama was surprised by the Romney's baldfaced lies during the 1st debate.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:29 AM
Nov 2012

I was amazed at how easily Romney lied/changed positions on a lot of the issues discussed in the 1st debate. Obama probably was, too. He came prepared to debate 'primary Romney'...but Mitt pivoted into 'GE Romney' and didn't pay a price for his abandonment of his previously held positions.

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