Obama's win has blown the first major hole into "his majesty's ship" known as

[Ninga]

"The Royal Citizens United".

Karl Rove and his evil minions in the first big election after Citizens United, were beyond arrogant, beyond confident and did not foresee that the dedicated noble forces focused on protecting the 47% would organize a huge defense that was bigger than the "The Royal Citizens Untied" a rudderless ship that took a fatal blow on Nov. 6.

The big question is, if Citizens United could not sink the USS Obama, why would any billionaire ever trust "the check is in the mail" (guaranteed win)....ever again?

Is Karl Rove answering his phone? Is the evil infrastructure of the GOP imploding? Hey, where the heck are the Koch boys?

[JustAnotherGen]

1. You know

Yesterday I went looking for info on the Koch brothers' reaction to this. Couldn't find anything - but I would be interested in seeing Charles and David crying in their caviar and champagne.

[RC]

2. The Koch boys are in the back room plotting what to do next.

Karl in not around.

[Ninga]

3. Who is evil enough To replace Karl? Is this election an outlier in terms of Karls's track record?

[Proud Liberal Dem]

10. 2006, 2008, and 2012

are pretty damn big blemishes on his track record and, most importantly, his "math". Come to think of it, 2010 midterms were the Republicans only "successful" election cycle in the past 6 years. I think that his "magic" is fading, if not completely exhausted by now.

[demgrrrll]

4. This is the first time I have ever seen KR look genuinely frightened.

[Ninga]

6. I would be frightened too, thinking about facing the billionaire firing squad.

Do you think he knew weeks ago that Romney was a lost cause, and hid it?

[demgrrrll]

13. No I think he had a scenario worked out in his head that fell apart at the last minute.

I think they used an old model and did not even look at the current census books.

[LukeFL]

5. You have giving me something to say

In return to wingnuts' "Obama's your king" bullshit.

The best answer to their hatred is sarcasm.

Thanks will save this thread.

[John2]

7. I

enjoyed bursting their bubble. I'm looking forward to 2014. The people really run this country and not Rove or the Koch brothers. You got to get out there and talk to all people. Suppressing the vote and coercing people to vote for you is a bad strategy. That was their strategy in a nutshell.

[politicaljunkie41910]

8. Unfortunately big money does work in smaller pockets which is why the GOP was able to keep the House

With the 2010 Census and the GOP dominating Governorships and State legislatures, they were able to redraw the district lines leaving most of themselves in safe, bulletproof disctricts. They maintain control of the house even though Congressional Dems candidates received more votes overall. Senators in most cases having to run a statewide election in a lot of cases are more vulnerable.

So with a GOP controlled House, the GOP is still in a position to Obstruct and remain safe in their districts. The Koch brother machine can easily overwhelm Democratic candidates, particularly in an off election year, and it wouldn't cost a lot of money. The couple of Tea Party candidates who lost, Joe Walsh and Allen West are the exception, though a welcome exception. Alan West spent something like 6 times the money his opponent spent (though he still lost). So we still have to get big money out of politics.

[Ninga]

9. Every word you write is true. However, re congressional seats, incumbancy is the number one reason

congress critters are returned to office....of course it goes without saying, money gives them the push over the finish line.

The force of nature in Ohio has created a perfect storm. Gov. Kasich-R, a Scott Walker clone, woke a sleeping giant when he took on public workers right to collective bargaining with the failed SB-5 bill.

Having an important election in 2011 regarding the rejection by the voters of Ohio of SB-5, was still fresh in their minds come 2012.

2014 Hustead, Josh Mandel, and Gov. Lehman Bros. will have the fight of their political lives to deal with.....we are coming after them, starting today.

[NewJeffCT]

11. You could also say

that without CU, Obama would have won by a huge margin because Romney was such a terrible candidate... the guy flip-flopped all over the place, didn't release his tax returns, gave no details of his tax/economic policies other than it will magically cut the deficit, cut taxes, increase defense spending and not touch social security or medicare. he was also an out-of-touch elitist who had nothing in common with the average American, had a ton of huge gaffes and had a gaffe prone staff as well.

Imagine if a rich Democrat had refused to release his tax returns? The rich Democrat likely would have had to bow out of the race in shame it would have been such a media firestorm.

[Ninga]

12. True.

[UCmeNdc]

14. An organized effort must be made to turn back the Citizens United decision

It is on the local races that Citizens United will destroy the democratic process. Citizens United must be turned back and an organized effort must begin now before the 2014 elections.