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Obama wins Florida! (Original Post) mnhtnbb Nov 2012 OP
Forward! gademocrat7 Nov 2012 #1
The HUMILIATION is Complete! boingboinh Nov 2012 #2
And wonderful! nt valerief Nov 2012 #45
And this despite voter suppression and voter roll purges BlueCaliDem Nov 2012 #3
But it is still unacceptable even if just one vote was lost because of suppression/purges yellowcanine Nov 2012 #16
It is BEYOND UNACCEPTABLE. No citizen, no matter who they vote for, should EVER have... Raster Nov 2012 #25
Thanks to all the FL Dems who stood in line for hours to vote: Obama won by 60,767 votes! mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #4
That's about 5 thousand more than I saw yesterday! Cha Nov 2012 #43
Hugs!!! ready2go83 Nov 2012 #66
Yeah, it was sooo Close! HUGS!! :) Cha Nov 2012 #69
and more than 3 million nationwide yends21012 Nov 2012 #47
Woo Hoo!!!! Take that, Skeletor!!!!! LongTomH Nov 2012 #5
Did the news organizations finally call it? democrattotheend Nov 2012 #6
Romney's FL campaign apparently conceded FL yesterday even though two counties mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #12
THAT sounded ominous: dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #17
"...this won't happen again." Graybeard Nov 2012 #21
Exactly. What does he mean by he can assure it won't happen again? LisaL Nov 2012 #34
Same thing with Ohio... lexw Nov 2012 #39
Is this the final final? I mean really final? Graybeard Nov 2012 #7
No, I think they are still counting some ballots. LisaL Nov 2012 #33
I guess Republicans gave up texshelters Nov 2012 #8
I glad he won it. I do question the total LukeFL Nov 2012 #9
332....Solid win and I called it a week before the election! yellowcanine Nov 2012 #10
Solid? That is an ASS WHIPPING. jsmirman Nov 2012 #61
Only HP, no others have called it yet (2:10 PM EST) ffr Nov 2012 #11
True HuffPost is only one to call it--but they are showing FL with 100% returns. mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #14
My understanding is that provisional ballots are still being counted. yellowcanine Nov 2012 #18
Yes, but the lead is insurmountable. Daniel537 Nov 2012 #29
The lead is about 60,000 votes. Not sure how many provisional ballots are out. yellowcanine Nov 2012 #30
I've heard 20,000 Daniel537 Nov 2012 #31
Lot of beautiful blue on that map! yellowcanine Nov 2012 #13
Comment accompanies this map mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #19
In an educated society it wouldn't have been that close. Gregorian Nov 2012 #15
POTUS needs to stress education standards in red states ffr Nov 2012 #20
Universal education. It is infrastructure. Gregorian Nov 2012 #22
I was saying the same thing... ready2go83 Nov 2012 #68
Did a little number crunching... MisterJones Nov 2012 #23
Me too. Nate Silver said ffr Nov 2012 #42
Shit. Just shit. That's easily in the "landslide" category. He kicked ASS! HopeHoops Nov 2012 #24
Yep, landslide. ywcachieve Nov 2012 #36
The GOP is drowning in tears. They got a few new assholes torn. HopeHoops Nov 2012 #37
Yay! Finally. coeur_de_lion Nov 2012 #26
It's been blue on HuffPost since yesterday...not called by anyone else alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #27
It's Been A Done Deal For Some Time colsohlibgal Nov 2012 #28
had that already ... but fun to celebrate again Filibuster Harry Nov 2012 #32
THAT'S RIGHT PEEPS, SAY IT WITH ME! LANDSLIDE! sebastianj333 Nov 2012 #35
Wow...Obama carried every state he won four years ago except IN and NC BlueDemKev Nov 2012 #38
And the dems didn't even fight for NC RosedaleGuy Nov 2012 #41
Like hell they didn't fight. Hundreds if not thousands of volunteers geek tragedy Nov 2012 #44
We tried hard as hell oswaldactedalone Nov 2012 #49
That is so much BS. OFA ground game was amazing here. mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #48
It's very impressive that Obama got more votes in 2012 that he got in 2008. LisaL Nov 2012 #52
I'm sorry about the result - but Romney and the GOP did receive a stinging rebuke jsmirman Nov 2012 #62
Romney failed at appealing to the swing states RosedaleGuy Nov 2012 #40
Dog bless everyone who stuck it out. liberalmuse Nov 2012 #46
damn that nate fella is good! jerome arizona Nov 2012 #50
Has it been officially called? TroyD Nov 2012 #51
No. They are still counting. LisaL Nov 2012 #53
With Florida you never know TroyD Nov 2012 #55
OH still has 200,000 outstanding provisional ballots that they can not count until Nov 17. LisaL Nov 2012 #56
I'm wondering if Obama's margin will go up in OHIO? TroyD Nov 2012 #59
It could. Assuming they count provisional ballots fairly. LisaL Nov 2012 #60
No, but Romney camp has conceded Florida. So who cares what news organizations say? mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #54
I want it be done officially. LisaL Nov 2012 #57
The Republicrats.... PoliticalBiker Nov 2012 #58
Somehow I love that Obama even won more total states than R Money jsmirman Nov 2012 #63
I believe we'll see Obama nab another 40 to 50k votes tomorrow fearnobush Nov 2012 #64
Yet again, I live in a blue state! Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2012 #65
Great! ready2go83 Nov 2012 #67
Florida says they won't certify election results until Nov. 20th! mnhtnbb Nov 2012 #70

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
3. And this despite voter suppression and voter roll purges
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:53 PM
Nov 2012

running rampant in Florida!

Goes to show how powerful and loved President Obama is.

yellowcanine

(35,698 posts)
16. But it is still unacceptable even if just one vote was lost because of suppression/purges
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:24 PM
Nov 2012

And likely it was in the thousands, perhaps more. No way to really know, unfortunately.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
25. It is BEYOND UNACCEPTABLE. No citizen, no matter who they vote for, should EVER have...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:42 PM
Nov 2012

...their legal and lawful vote suppressed.

The electoral infrastructure in Florida is broken. The Governor is a criminal and belongs in prison.

mnhtnbb

(31,381 posts)
4. Thanks to all the FL Dems who stood in line for hours to vote: Obama won by 60,767 votes!
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:55 PM
Nov 2012

which was a difference of 0.7% of the vote.

Cha

(297,029 posts)
43. That's about 5 thousand more than I saw yesterday!
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:21 PM
Nov 2012

Thanks mnhtnbb.. sorry about North Carolina. I know you all worked so hard!

mnhtnbb

(31,381 posts)
12. Romney's FL campaign apparently conceded FL yesterday even though two counties
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:11 PM
Nov 2012

are still being counted (Palm Beach and Duval)


Despite the never-ending counting of ballots in Florida, Mitt Romney‘s campaign on Thursday recognized that President Obama is on his way to victory there. With only ballots from Democratic-leaning counties left to be counted, the final tally was not expected to change the outcome, Republican acknowledged.

“We thought based on our polling and range of organization that we had done what we needed to win,” Brett Doster, a Florida adviser for Mitt Romney, told The Miami Herald in a statement. “Obviously we didn’t, and for that I and every other operative in Florida has a sick feeling that we left something on the table. I can assure you this won’t happen again.”

By Thursday afternoon, the state Division of Elections Web site said Mr. Obama led Mr. Romney 49.9 percent to 49.2 percent, with a difference of about 55,000 votes out of more than eight million votes cast. Several counties continued to count absentee ballots throughout the day. An official declaration is expected on Friday, and an Obama victory would give him 332 electoral votes to Mr. Romney’s 206.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/08/romney-aide-says-campaign-lost-florida/?ref=politics

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
17. THAT sounded ominous:
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:25 PM
Nov 2012

"we....thought.....we had done what we needed to win,”
"I can assure you this won’t happen again.”

Am I the only one who heard, in that sentence, " we did not cheat enough, but watch out for next time"?

Graybeard

(6,996 posts)
21. "...this won't happen again."
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:31 PM
Nov 2012

I took this to mean that the guy who screwed up

is already sleeping with the fishes.

lexw

(804 posts)
39. Same thing with Ohio...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:05 PM
Nov 2012

I think that's why they were so shocked and waited: they had plans to steal, but someone wasn't doing what they were told or something was working.

Graybeard

(6,996 posts)
7. Is this the final final? I mean really final?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:03 PM
Nov 2012

No challenge by the sore losers? No recounts because of some obscure state regulation?

If so....and I certainly hope it is....then




texshelters

(1,979 posts)
8. I guess Republicans gave up
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:05 PM
Nov 2012

trying to steal the state since they wouldn't win the election even with Florida.

PTxS

LukeFL

(594 posts)
9. I glad he won it. I do question the total
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:05 PM
Nov 2012

Number. It is impossible to imagine all those ppl doing long lines 4-9 hrs voting for Romney.

We will never know the true number in which Obama won, but I can assure you it was not 60k

yellowcanine

(35,698 posts)
10. 332....Solid win and I called it a week before the election!
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:10 PM
Nov 2012

With considerable assistance from Nate Silver although he had not yet turned Florida blue as I recall.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
61. Solid? That is an ASS WHIPPING.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:51 PM
Nov 2012

Or do you just mean solid in Florida?

Because 332 EVs - that is a rout.

mnhtnbb

(31,381 posts)
14. True HuffPost is only one to call it--but they are showing FL with 100% returns.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:15 PM
Nov 2012

My guess is that the Romney campaign--and MSM--will be happy to bury the story late Friday afternoon.
Election is over anyway--why draw attention to how fu*ked up Florida is?

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
29. Yes, but the lead is insurmountable.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:02 PM
Nov 2012

News organization need to stop playing games and call it already.

yellowcanine

(35,698 posts)
30. The lead is about 60,000 votes. Not sure how many provisional ballots are out.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:16 PM
Nov 2012

But given that provisionals will likely break at least as well for Obama as the other votes, it would seem to be insurmountable, yes.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
31. I've heard 20,000
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:18 PM
Nov 2012

but this is Florida, so god only knows, but everybody from both campaigns to political analysts down here in FL say its going to Obama, hands down.

mnhtnbb

(31,381 posts)
19. Comment accompanies this map
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:28 PM
Nov 2012

11/8/12, 4:35 PM ET – Final 2012 Electoral Vote Results (Romney has conceded Florida): Obama 332, Romney 206

www.freedomslighthouse.net

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
15. In an educated society it wouldn't have been that close.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:22 PM
Nov 2012

I know, it was an electoral landslide.

It was close. Far too close. I'll go further and say that in an educated society Romney would never have been on the ballot.

I'm thrilled. And I'm disgusted. But I don't know what it would take, and how long it would take in order to turn things around given so many are struggling to keep those 58 million ignorant.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
20. POTUS needs to stress education standards in red states
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:28 PM
Nov 2012

Can you imagine the fight the Rethugs will put up to prevent that?

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
22. Universal education. It is infrastructure.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:32 PM
Nov 2012

It's more important than roads.

And yes, rural should be as important as any of the rest. Rural ed and med both suck.

I know it will never happen, but if I had my way I'd drop the military funding to 10% of what it is now. Then we'd be level with the next biggest army. Then we could have good education and medical.

ready2go83

(80 posts)
68. I was saying the same thing...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:01 PM
Nov 2012

No way should this idiot have gotten as many votes. But we outnumber them, we are the sane ones.

MisterJones

(23 posts)
23. Did a little number crunching...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:36 PM
Nov 2012

Romney won 47.7 percent of the raw vote and they rounded up. Serves him right.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
42. Me too. Nate Silver said
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:15 PM
Nov 2012

RR would have needed to beat PBO by 3% in the popular vote to win and yesterday's numbers showed that would have been > 5.5 million votes on top of what RR had.

RR were waaaay off in their predictions. Imagine how poor a Pres he would have made????

War - whoops, we miscalculated
Economy - whoops, we miscalculated
Deficit reduction - whoops, we miscalculated

IDIOT!

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
28. It's Been A Done Deal For Some Time
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:58 PM
Nov 2012

Ohio and Florida are the cherries on top, what bodes well is that Obama would have still won if he had lost those two states.

I'm not sure what's holding up anyone else, provisional ballots will only pad the league.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
38. Wow...Obama carried every state he won four years ago except IN and NC
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:04 PM
Nov 2012

The 2008 and 2012 electoral maps look nearly identical.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
44. Like hell they didn't fight. Hundreds if not thousands of volunteers
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:26 PM
Nov 2012

busted their asses for months and months down there. OFA had a huge operation. Democrats held their convention there.

In 2008, Obama's performance in North Carolina was about 7% nationally. This year it was 4.7% worse than nationally.

That improvement doesn't happen without a lot of fighting.

oswaldactedalone

(3,490 posts)
49. We tried hard as hell
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:51 PM
Nov 2012

in NC. You might mean that since Obama and Biden didn't appear here after the convention that they didn't try but OFA gave it everything they had. I think it really shows what amazing upsets we had in NC and Indiana in '08.

NC is facing an unprecedented problem with Thug gov, supermajorities in both state houses and only 4 US House reps for the first time in forever.

We have to be very serious in '14 to keep Kay Hagan in the Senate and win back seats in the state legislature.

mnhtnbb

(31,381 posts)
48. That is so much BS. OFA ground game was amazing here.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:46 PM
Nov 2012

And although Obama received MORE votes in NC this time than he did
in 2008, it wasn't enough.

President Obama received 2,177,794 votes

http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/42923/110329/Web01/en/summary.html

In 2008 he received 2,142,651 votes--and won by 14,000 votes.

http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/NC/7937/21334/en/summary.html

The reason Obama lost NC this time: racism. Pure and simple.

We had >800,000 voter advantage (registered Dems over Repubs) but those
Dems did NOT vote for the Democratic Presidential candidate. Why?
Racism and bigotry.

Very sad. I was very disappointed.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
52. It's very impressive that Obama got more votes in 2012 that he got in 2008.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:02 PM
Nov 2012

You guys did an amazing job.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
62. I'm sorry about the result - but Romney and the GOP did receive a stinging rebuke
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:55 PM
Nov 2012

guess they didn't smell what the Rock was cooking, lol.

RosedaleGuy

(89 posts)
40. Romney failed at appealing to the swing states
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:08 PM
Nov 2012

because he ran a campaign that only appealed to his base. The GOP self-destructed.

jerome arizona

(3 posts)
50. damn that nate fella is good!
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 05:54 PM
Nov 2012

he called popular vote 50.8 to 48.3...exactly 2.5 difference! And his numbers keep me sane!

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
55. With Florida you never know
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:06 PM
Nov 2012


But it's looking like an Obama win, since even the Romney campaign basically conceded yesterday.

Pretty good result, and probably would have been even higher had it not been for Rick Scott's vote-fixing.

Is it true that only 90% of Ohio is in?

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
56. OH still has 200,000 outstanding provisional ballots that they can not count until Nov 17.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:07 PM
Nov 2012

So, a lot of OH votes is still out.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
59. I'm wondering if Obama's margin will go up in OHIO?
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:13 PM
Nov 2012

The final PPP & SurveyUSA polls showed a +5 lead, and yet he is only at +2 over Romney.

So if Obama's lead doesn't increase there, I think we can suspect the Republicans engaged in some vote theft.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
60. It could. Assuming they count provisional ballots fairly.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:15 PM
Nov 2012

Provisional ballots normally favor democrats.

PoliticalBiker

(328 posts)
58. The Republicrats....
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 06:10 PM
Nov 2012

... got a thourough drubbing Tuesday.
Though the only thing you will ever hear from them are angry denials and lame excuses.

The republicrap party needs to just go away.... useless, incompetent, out of touch, racist, hateful, angry...

fearnobush

(3,960 posts)
64. I believe we'll see Obama nab another 40 to 50k votes tomorrow
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 09:13 PM
Nov 2012

In Florida. He should top out at 1.1 percent. In Ohio, I expect 130 to 150 k provisional ballots with 80 to 100k of those going to Obama. He should clear 3 PTs their. By next Friday we will see mittins at 47.4% to Obama at 50.9% in popular vote. Obama will win by 3.5 % nationally. BTW,
To all those who worked their asses off in Florida, congrats and you deserve this one 100%. You guys rock.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,160 posts)
65. Yet again, I live in a blue state!
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 10:29 PM
Nov 2012

A wild, wacky, crazy, off the wall, dysfunctional blue state, mind you, but a blue state nonetheless. And I wouldn't have it any other way!

ready2go83

(80 posts)
67. Great!
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 11:00 PM
Nov 2012

FANTASTIC! But I'm still weary that this moron got 48% of the votes, even more than Mccain. At least Mccain was a war hero that stuck to his principles. This idiot shouldn't have gotten more than 1%.

mnhtnbb

(31,381 posts)
70. Florida says they won't certify election results until Nov. 20th!
Sat Nov 10, 2012, 12:41 PM
Nov 2012

"We're not going to call the race at any point until we actually certify the results [on Nov. 20]," Florida Department of State spokesman Chris Cate said. "We'll keep reporting results and let the media do the calling of the race. But I think the best indicator that we can give will be on Saturday when we either order a recount or if we don't. If we don't order a recount on Saturday, then I think that will be the best indicator that we can give as to who will be the ultimate winner when we certify the results."

<snip>

Thousands of residents have sent virulent emails to Gov. Rick Scott complaining and vowing not to vote for him in the 2016 election. But Scott defended the state on Friday. "What I'm trying to do is improve the way government works," Scott told The Miami Herald. "I believe in efficiency. I believe every vote has to count. I want to have a good process that people feel good about."


http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/12654/20121110/florida-election-results-2012-obama-wins-state-palm-beach-vote-count.htm


Boy, if that's efficiency...well...what a joke!
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