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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 02:57 PM Nov 2012

No, No, No, Don't Split Electoral Votes By Congressional District

Husted’s solution to this perceived problem of Democrats and the national media picking on him? He says we should make Ohio less important in the election by dividing up our electoral votes by Congressional district.Didn't we stake this vampire already? Most states allow whatever party holds power at the start of each decade to map their congressional districts. In this data-heavy era, parties take the opportunity to pack their opponents into a small number of districts, and spread their own voter over a maximum number of marginally safe districts. The result: It's possible for the other party to win most of the votes for House in a state, but take away only a few districts.

I can't overstate how disastrous this would be. Instead of a small chance of a popular vote/electoral vote split, you'd have, every four years, multiple chances for a majority of voters to support one candidate, but partisan gerrymanders handing the election to the loser. It would slant the election away from urban areas and give disproportionate powers to rural areas. You couldn't come up with a more tenacious assault on one-man-one-vote. Don't do it, people.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/11/09/no_no_no_don_t_split_electoral_votes_by_congressional_district.html
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No, No, No, Don't Split Electoral Votes By Congressional District (Original Post) octoberlib Nov 2012 OP
Start with a reset in 2020 and with computer drawn maps exboyfil Nov 2012 #1
popular vote period, no gimmicks CreekDog Nov 2012 #7
Only many OECD countries have a direct election exboyfil Nov 2012 #9
If we have the patchwork voting system we have now, a national recount is difficult Retrograde Nov 2012 #12
I agree: it would be a disaster struggle4progress Nov 2012 #2
I might be in favor of it if and only if... Rstrstx Nov 2012 #3
split electoral votes by the popular vote Fresh_Start Nov 2012 #4
popular vote, no gimmicks CreekDog Nov 2012 #8
agree Filibuster Harry Nov 2012 #11
Gerrymander the Electoral College? Fuck that! Dem2TheCore Nov 2012 #5
I don't like that idea at all. There are much better ideas democrattotheend Nov 2012 #6
Oh HELL no. liberalmuse Nov 2012 #10
Fear is the driving factor to keep it like it is RightOnTime Nov 2012 #13

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
9. Only many OECD countries have a direct election
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:26 PM
Nov 2012

for their chief executive? Would you want to see a 2000 Florida repeated on a national level? Winner take all by Congressional district at least limits the damage of a close election.

People are critical of 2000 Florida, and they are rightfully so, but think about 537 votes out of 5.8 million votes (0.01%). No human made measuring system is designed to accurately pick up this result.

Other close popular vote elections:

1880 James Garfield (0.09%)
1960 John F. Kennedy (0.17%)
1968 Richard Nixon (0.70%)
2000 George Bush (-0.51%)

Try to run a national recount under these conditions.

Retrograde

(10,142 posts)
12. If we have the patchwork voting system we have now, a national recount is difficult
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:42 PM
Nov 2012

If we simplified it, with, say, one ballot for federal offices and one ballot for everything else, it would be easier. Let the states handle their own elections any way they want, but have uniform Federal processes for Federal offices.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
3. I might be in favor of it if and only if...
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:04 PM
Nov 2012

...the state's districts were drawn by a nonpartisan (or evenly split D/R) committee that wouldn't have to answer to anyone. Good luck with that.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
6. I don't like that idea at all. There are much better ideas
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:11 PM
Nov 2012

Like adding at-large electoral votes for the winner of the popular vote, and the interstate compact if it gets enough support. Republican-leaning states might now have more incentive to join.

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
10. Oh HELL no.
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 03:39 PM
Nov 2012

They've already gerrymandered their way into the House. We need to reset all of our districts. I like the Green Party's idea on that.

RightOnTime

(1 post)
13. Fear is the driving factor to keep it like it is
Fri Nov 9, 2012, 04:43 PM
Nov 2012

Both sides are afraid to split electoral votes by congressional districts as battle ground states would become irrelevant. Every vote would count, the farmer and the big businessman's vote would weigh the same. Every state in my opinion should have an uneven amount of districts that would vote. The states would have a clear winner. As it stands now,a politician goes to the congressional district in a state that has the most influence and they put all their eggs in that basket to sway voters their way, the rest of the state is left holding the bag of one groups decisions. How is that a fair representation of the whole state?

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