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BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 01:22 PM Sep 2016

This is unprecedented. Do ANY of you remember EVER

recall seeing a headline in a major US newspaper write that a presidential candidate is lying?

The NYT not only did so today, but they fact checked all throughout the article and pointed out lie after lie. I am stunned in a very pleasant way. Sorry for the lack of a link, as I read a hard copy of the paper.

In any case, I want to get back to my paper, as I am enjoying it so much!

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This is unprecedented. Do ANY of you remember EVER (Original Post) BigDemVoter Sep 2016 OP
there are a number of articles on drumpfy's lies in the nyt today. talk abou cya niyad Sep 2016 #1
Humpty Trumpty sat on a wall .. ananda Sep 2016 #23
Hardly matters, since pretty much no one who reads the NYT is likely to be a Trump voter anyway. (n/t) thesquanderer Sep 2016 #24
Trump supporters are lost people. Nothing can reach them. It's the others that might read it. anamandujano Sep 2016 #43
Also don't remember madamesilverspurs Sep 2016 #2
Is it really legal wncHillsupport Sep 2016 #4
Rumor says Sec Serv talked 'informally' to Trump's camp after the August incident. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #12
That "formal" discussion should begin with the Miranda Warning. n/t neeksgeek Sep 2016 #19
I'd say "Good one", but I think there is a serious edge to the idea. Good. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #20
Who's job Soxfan58 Sep 2016 #18
link? eom artyteacher Sep 2016 #3
Here Fozzledick Sep 2016 #6
From your link, another anamandujano Sep 2016 #44
Here ya go hun! OhZone Sep 2016 #7
Here's some opinion pieces LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2016 #10
thanks loves. eom artyteacher Sep 2016 #33
Thank God this is happening...... Jade Fox Sep 2016 #5
I watched part of that as he was talking about the Ilsa Sep 2016 #11
O'Donnell calling that 9/11 lie the worst of Trump's lies...... Jade Fox Sep 2016 #14
He just stood in front of a bunch of moms of crime victims.... bettyellen Sep 2016 #15
I haven't watched any of it today. Ilsa Sep 2016 #35
But he did brag about... Pluvious Sep 2016 #41
ALL the major news outlets oldtime dfl_er Sep 2016 #8
If we can do it sitting at home, why can't they? spiderpig Sep 2016 #9
LAT is on it today as well nikatnyte Sep 2016 #13
Okay. Some of Trump's supporters are nothing short of "deplorable" world wide wally Sep 2016 #16
My 89 year old father says he's still voting for vanlassie Sep 2016 #17
So, he wants a corrupt Russian friendly liar with conflicts of interest to do it? world wide wally Sep 2016 #21
Well he only watches FOX so he doesn't know about that shit. vanlassie Sep 2016 #25
It wouldn't matter who was on the Supreme Court if Trump wins katmondoo Sep 2016 #27
Tell your dad, he'll probably name Dennis Rodman Motley13 Sep 2016 #28
and Gary Busey, etc. nt Ilsa Sep 2016 #36
Ha Ha. True! But dad won't listen. I need to maintain my sanity, people! vanlassie Sep 2016 #40
Yesterday my BIL told me, ... Pluvious Sep 2016 #42
Unfortunately... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #22
your unfortunately vermont farmguy Sep 2016 #30
Double unfortunately Trump voters aren't reading the NYT Arazi Sep 2016 #38
They can't read awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #39
So vadermike Sep 2016 #26
Here's a great link from this morning PJMcK Sep 2016 #29
Wow--thanks! BigDemVoter Sep 2016 #31
TOO LITTLE, TOO LATE? BSdetect Sep 2016 #32
It's about damned time! Long overdue! LuckyLib Sep 2016 #34
The Presidency is a pretty respected office rock Sep 2016 #37

niyad

(113,279 posts)
1. there are a number of articles on drumpfy's lies in the nyt today. talk abou cya
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 01:26 PM
Sep 2016

nyt has been just as complicit as the rest of the media in its uncritical and slavishly adoring coverage of the yammering yam.

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
24. Hardly matters, since pretty much no one who reads the NYT is likely to be a Trump voter anyway. (n/t)
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 04:26 PM
Sep 2016

madamesilverspurs

(15,800 posts)
2. Also don't remember
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 01:26 PM
Sep 2016

any presidential candidate effectively soliciting the murder of his opponent.

That he's gotten away with it TWICE is gut-churning.


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wncHillsupport

(112 posts)
4. Is it really legal
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 01:33 PM
Sep 2016

to call for the assassination of anyone, especially a presidential candidate? What is the Secret Service doing about this, which will cause more work on their part.
It is extremely scary that he is allowed to get away with this once, let alone twice. Media seems to be saying it is OK. No one calling for an investigation into trump about these threats.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
12. Rumor says Sec Serv talked 'informally' to Trump's camp after the August incident.
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 02:30 PM
Sep 2016

His campaign says the Secret Service did not "formally" speak to them.

It seems to me they used a careful choice of words.

I think it is about time they had a "formal" discussion with the candidate.

Soxfan58

(3,479 posts)
18. Who's job
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 03:00 PM
Sep 2016

Will it be to stop the bullet. This must piss the secret service off. But these guys will bust their butts to protect the protectee. Even the big orange turd.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
44. From your link, another
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 02:41 PM
Sep 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/us/politics/donald-trump-presidential-race.html?action=click&contentCollection=us&module=NextInCollection®ion=Footer&pgtype=article&version=newsevent&rref=collection%2Fnews-event%2Felection-2016

Donald Trump’s Anything-Goes Campaign Sets an Alarming Political Precedent

“It’s frightening,” said Vin Weber, a former Republican congressman from Minnesota. “Our politics, because of him, is descending to the level of a third-world country. There’s just nothing beneath him. And I don’t know why we would think he would change if he became president. That’s what’s really scary.”

Stephen Hess, who served in the Eisenhower and Nixon administrations, could not even contemplate the prospect of Mr. Trump as commander in chief.

“It’s incredibly depressing,” Mr. Hess said of Mr. Trump. “He’s the most profoundly ignorant man I’ve ever seen at this level in terms of understanding the American presidency, and, even more troubling, he makes no effort to learn anything.”

Jade Fox

(10,030 posts)
5. Thank God this is happening......
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 01:43 PM
Sep 2016

Also, last night on his show Lawrence O'Donnell did a masterful job calling down Trump's lifetime of lies.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
11. I watched part of that as he was talking about the
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 02:27 PM
Sep 2016

"hundreds of friends" lost on 9-11-01. Drump has never named one single person he's known that died from that attack. It's DEPLORABLE that he would use such a tragedy the way he has.

Jade Fox

(10,030 posts)
14. O'Donnell calling that 9/11 lie the worst of Trump's lies......
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 02:33 PM
Sep 2016

is absolutely correct, IMO.

I also loved O"Donnell's comments on the 1 inch lie about his height. Trump is both appalling and petty.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
15. He just stood in front of a bunch of moms of crime victims....
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 02:34 PM
Sep 2016

So sad threat he is using them to fuel the bigotry and racism.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
35. I haven't watched any of it today.
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 05:38 PM
Sep 2016

He's a pathetic excuse for a human and it doesn't surprise me that a sociopath like Drump is using and manipulating moms of crime victims.

Pluvious

(4,310 posts)
41. But he did brag about...
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 12:58 PM
Sep 2016

... how his tower was now the tallest in Lower Manhattan again - just two hours after the 2nd tower fell.

He is but human dirt.
(Apologies to dirt)

oldtime dfl_er

(6,931 posts)
8. ALL the major news outlets
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 01:54 PM
Sep 2016

NEED to factcheck the debates IN REAL TIME. On twitter, on blogs, in as many outlets as possible. I hope they all have ARMIES of researchers at the ready. In this day and age, factchecking the next day is a day too late.

nikatnyte

(242 posts)
13. LAT is on it today as well
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 02:30 PM
Sep 2016

Top headline: "Trump trades one falsehood for two more"
Sidebar: "Tripped up again by his own words"

world wide wally

(21,742 posts)
16. Okay. Some of Trump's supporters are nothing short of "deplorable"
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 02:47 PM
Sep 2016

But some are probably decent people, like some of your parents and relatives.
Just explain to me how a "decent" person can vote for a known liar, thief, scam artist blowhard buffoon like that?

katmondoo

(6,455 posts)
27. It wouldn't matter who was on the Supreme Court if Trump wins
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 04:40 PM
Sep 2016

The whole Country would rapidly deteriorate to a Police State and The Supreme Court would become meaningless

Pluvious

(4,310 posts)
42. Yesterday my BIL told me, ...
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 01:02 PM
Sep 2016

...in all sincerity, that tRump is currently polling better with "blacks" than Mitt Romney ever did.

I realized suddenly that I needed to change the topic.

:-/

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
22. Unfortunately...
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 04:10 PM
Sep 2016

print media matters very little anymore. Too many people are getting their news from the idiot box, and they are all on board for tRump.

 

vermont farmguy

(19 posts)
30. your unfortunately
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 04:48 PM
Sep 2016

is on social media. So which is it... idiot box or here? I get the feeling that the idiot box, given that Jeb Bush and HRC have spent millions on it to no avail, are wondering if there is another way to get the message out. Do you think there is? Perhaps you should enlighten rather than give up.

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
26. So
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 04:35 PM
Sep 2016

Trump is gonna win now regardless what he says ? Maybe for his hardcore base But I don't think he is gaining any other support hopefully losing it

rock

(13,218 posts)
37. The Presidency is a pretty respected office
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 05:46 PM
Sep 2016

But if we put enough turds in, it will lose its luster. Like I always say, "You can't clean a turd by licking it, but the Republicans love to try." They apparently enjoy that chocolatey looking ring around the mouth.

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