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EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 08:47 AM Sep 2016

Los Angeles Times Endorsement of Hillary Clinton

Hillary Clinton would make a sober, smart and pragmatic president. Donald Trump would be a catastrophe.

American voters have a clear choice on Nov. 8. We can elect an experienced, thoughtful and deeply knowledgeable public servant or a thin-skinned demagogue who is unqualified and unsuited to be president.

Donald J. Trump, a billionaire businessman and television personality, is the latter. He has never held elected office and has shown himself temperamentally unfit to do so. He has run a divisive, belligerent, dishonest campaign, repeatedly aligning himself with racists, strongmen and thugs while maligning or dismissing large segments of the American public. Electing Trump could be catastrophic for the nation.

By contrast, Hillary Clinton is one of the best prepared candidates to seek the presidency in many years. As a first lady, a Democratic senator from New York and secretary of State in President Obama’s first term, she immersed herself in the details of government, which is why her positions on the issues today are infinitely better thought-out than those of her opponent.

Against a Mitt Romney or a John McCain, Hillary Clinton would almost certainly be The Times' choice. Against Donald Trump, the question answers itself.

She stands for rational, comprehensive immigration reform and an improvement rather than an abandonment of the Affordable Care Act. She supports abortion rights, wants to raise the federal minimum wage to $12 an hour, hopes to reform the sentencing laws that have overcrowded American prisons, would repair the Voting Rights Act and help students to leave college without enormous debt.

Abroad she would strengthen America’s traditional alliances, continue the Obama administration’s efforts to “degrade and ultimately defeat” Islamic State and negotiate with potential adversaries such as Russia and China in a way that balances realism and the protection of American interests. Unlike Trump, Clinton accepts the prevailing science on climate change and considers the issue to be “the defining challenge of our time.”

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-hillary-endorsement-20160923-snap-story.html
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Los Angeles Times Endorsement of Hillary Clinton (Original Post) EricMaundry Sep 2016 OP
November 8th: America's IQ Test!! Madam45for2923 Sep 2016 #1
Are you kidding me! LA Times has been the worst with every negatives Iliyah Sep 2016 #2
Yes but that endorsement is great and long! They cover many bases in one article Madam45for2923 Sep 2016 #4
My first thoughts also, which make this endorsement, which is very well written, even more still_one Sep 2016 #6
Against a Mitt Romney or a John McCain, Hillary Clinton would almost certainly be The Times' choice. Madam45for2923 Sep 2016 #3
that second graph- a vision popped into my head of hillary mopinko Sep 2016 #14
This is awesome too! Madam45for2923 Sep 2016 #5
They are both vanity candidates with huge flaws and no chance at Akamai Sep 2016 #8
Not a surprise there - I don't know a single "anyone but Hillary" that actually understands the bettyellen Sep 2016 #18
It's absurd that a Trump win is even a possibility. PeteSelman Sep 2016 #7
in late August, it was looking like a landslide NewJeffCT Sep 2016 #10
Sometimes the corporate cheerleaders find it hard not to cave a little nolabels Sep 2016 #15
I agree. PeteSelman Sep 2016 #16
But they didn't succeed. It's not a horserace by any reputable measure. stopbush Sep 2016 #17
I feel like they were testing their influence, because it was so damned slanted. bettyellen Sep 2016 #19
it wouldn't surprise me NewJeffCT Sep 2016 #20
My biggest hope is to recapture the senate and get those hundreds of judges on the bench- Obama had bettyellen Sep 2016 #21
His suggestion(s) that HRC be shot should have disqualified him along with him being arrested Augiedog Sep 2016 #9
wouldnt it be sweet mopinko Sep 2016 #13
BRAVO LA TIMES! The choice is abundantly clear... Raster Sep 2016 #11
K and R oasis Sep 2016 #12

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
2. Are you kidding me! LA Times has been the worst with every negatives
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 08:55 AM
Sep 2016

they are write up about HRC. Their shitty polling comes to mind as well.

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
6. My first thoughts also, which make this endorsement, which is very well written, even more
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 09:11 AM
Sep 2016

puzzling

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
3. Against a Mitt Romney or a John McCain, Hillary Clinton would almost certainly be The Times' choice.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 08:55 AM
Sep 2016

I like this:

Against a Mitt Romney or a John McCain, Hillary Clinton would almost certainly be The Times' choice. Against Donald Trump, the question answers itself.


I like this about her:

Perhaps her greatest strength is her pragmatism — her ability to build consensus and solve problems. As president, she would be flexible enough and experienced enough to cut across party lines and work productively with her political opponents. As first lady, she worked with Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Massachusetts) and Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) to create the Children’s Health Insurance Program, which provides healthcare coverage to more than 8 million children. As a senator, she was instrumental in persuading a Republican president to deliver billions of dollars in aid to New York after September 11. As secretary of State, she led the charge to persuade nations around the world to impose the tough sanctions on Iran that led to the landmark nuclear agreement, and she negotiated a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas.



Thanks for posting this great Endorsement!

mopinko

(73,940 posts)
14. that second graph- a vision popped into my head of hillary
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:49 AM
Sep 2016

dragging some asshole rethug into the oval for a little bit of her version of the lbj treatment. i bet she has that act down.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
5. This is awesome too!
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 09:00 AM
Sep 2016
Neither Libertarian Gary Johnson nor Green Party candidate Jill Stein offers a serious alternative to the major-party candidates. Even voters who have questions about Clinton must recognize that neither Stein nor Johnson stands a chance of winning — and that a vote for either is merely one less vote for the only candidate who can defeat Trump. Besides, neither is a better candidate than Clinton; both were interviewed at length by The Times editorial board, and despite certain superficial appeal, neither comes close to matching Clinton’s qualifications, expertise or understanding of the political process.



Compared to Clinton, they're all unqualified, unprepared, unfit! Compared to Clinton they're all JOKE VOTES!
 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
8. They are both vanity candidates with huge flaws and no chance at
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 09:41 AM
Sep 2016

all of winning or of being up to handling the complicated and necessary tasks ahead.

Great endorsement by the LA Times!

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
18. Not a surprise there - I don't know a single "anyone but Hillary" that actually understands the
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:32 PM
Sep 2016

Basics of government - the three branches. Not counting the rat fuckers who scurried off to JPR, or those that bow down to them.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
7. It's absurd that a Trump win is even a possibility.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 09:16 AM
Sep 2016

And yet, it's close enough to scare the shit out of me.

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
10. in late August, it was looking like a landslide
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:36 AM
Sep 2016

then, we had more breathless coverage of the non-scandals of the emails and the Clinton Foundation and non-stop coverage of Trump attacking Clinton. The media were determined to make it a horse race and they succeeded.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
15. Sometimes the corporate cheerleaders find it hard not to cave a little
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 11:03 AM
Sep 2016

Sort of like watching a swarm of shit eating house flies get around. Mostly they all follow each other around but sometimes a tired straggler falls off and starts flying in it's own direction.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
16. I agree.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:10 PM
Sep 2016

They better be able to pull it back. Although, a Trump Presidency would be a ratings bonanza.

stopbush

(24,852 posts)
17. But they didn't succeed. It's not a horserace by any reputable measure.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:12 PM
Sep 2016

Please pay attention.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
19. I feel like they were testing their influence, because it was so damned slanted.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:34 PM
Sep 2016

Flexing their muscles for the bosses. I have no doubt that orders are coming from on high.

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
20. it wouldn't surprise me
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:43 PM
Sep 2016

but, it would send a strong message to the racists and bigots of America, as well as to the world, if Trump lost in an epic landslide. If Trump loses by 4-6 points, somebody without all his baggage can look at him and think that maybe they could do the same thing as Trump and win in 2020 or 2024...if he loses by 10 or more points, the deplorables can crawl back under their rocks and eventually die off...

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
21. My biggest hope is to recapture the senate and get those hundreds of judges on the bench- Obama had
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:55 PM
Sep 2016

Unprecedented Obstruction on lower levels too. That and the USSC could take away any chance the GOP has at using abortion and civil rights as "wedge issues" and do some really lasting damage. I cannot wait till Hillary proves the haters wrong.

Augiedog

(2,705 posts)
9. His suggestion(s) that HRC be shot should have disqualified him along with him being arrested
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:24 AM
Sep 2016

mopinko

(73,940 posts)
13. wouldnt it be sweet
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:47 AM
Sep 2016

if they arrested him on nov 9!
the fbi doesnt like to stick it's nose into politics, but maybe after he loses.....

Raster

(21,010 posts)
11. BRAVO LA TIMES! The choice is abundantly clear...
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:42 AM
Sep 2016

...for today, for tomorrow: Hillary Clinton!

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