****Unofficial Debate Thread #2*************

[book_worm]

I think she has him on the defensive.

[annabanana]

1. for sure..He's flailing angrily

[book_worm]

2. She isn't going to be bullied by that asshat

[elleng]

3. Feels that way.

[Coyotl]

4. ***** LIVE 2016 Presidential Debate II *****

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512442319

[annabanana]

5. He can hardly contain himself.. poor donny.. boo hoo

[book_worm]

6. She is going to have a special prosecutor to enforce trade

[llmart]

7. I can't stand looking at his facial expressions.

[book_worm]

8. Fireworks are starting

[phylny]

9. Do you know how hard it is to keep talking when someone is interrupting you?

She has been practicing. Good.

[DeminPennswoods]

10. Trump's nodding in agreement!

Hillary talking about creating jobs with renewable energy and Trump's looking at her and nodding his head in agreement!!!!

[avebury]

11. He is being pretty emotional.

What an asshole!

[book_worm]

12. "You heard what I said about it..."

[Danmel]

13. This is out of control

He's interrogating her. Where the hell is the moderator.

[llmart]

19. What a freakin' bully!

Poster child for bullying.

[book_worm]

14. Trump: "But you have no plan"

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

15. Here comes the badgering.

[Daemonaquila]

16. "Donald, I know you live in your own reality."

Slam!

(And I had to chug. This is going to be a loooooong night.)

[avebury]

17. I wrote about it in a book.

You can pick it up at the bookstore.

[book_worm]

18. "You're going to regulate these businesses out of business"

[book_worm]

20. I assumed there will be a lot of charges and schemes

[avebury]

21. She went there

Go to her website and see the fact check!

[book_worm]

22. Trump won't shut up

[Daemonaquila]

23. People are getting upset at him.

Good. And woot to her fact checking on the website. Brilliant!

[avebury]

24. He is really losing his cool!

[book_worm]

25. Trump is an asshole. He is getting unhinged.

[SHRED]

26. He's losing it

[elleng]

27. He can't handle a DEBATE. Not surprised.

[megahertz]

28. Why is Trump allowed to continually talk over her? grr.

[llmart]

41. I know....

Come on Holt. Shut him up.

[avebury]

43. She is acting Presidential! nt

Hillary is awesome!

[Renew Deal]

29. "You've been fighting ISIS your entire adult life"

Huh?

[nolabear]

35. Yeah wtf was that?

Brain fart? Something something ISIS?

[MH1]

53. I assumed it was an attempt at some sort of juvenile insult

but it really doesn't work.

[book_worm]

30. "The wealthy are going to create millions of jobs" oh come on that is the old trickle down theory

[nolabear]

31. Hoo Boy! Donald is losing it. He's doing everything wrong.

If she can keep her cool she's got this.

[llmart]

32. He can't answer a question straight.

My Lord, he is a jerk!

[helpisontheway]

33. Ha! And he still has over an hour left! Get him Hillary! Nt

[WIProgressive88]

34. Hahaha Hothead Trump is already starting to go nuts. This guy has the temperament of a shit-throwing

monkey. Go Hillary!

[Daemonaquila]

36. OMG, she's trying not to laugh!

He's lost it, and she is about to lose it and fall on the floor laughing her ass off.

[Lint Head]

37. Trump is losing it. I mean mentally. He is constantly drinking

water and his breathing loudly.

[Botany]

38. Jobs Tax Cuts web sites ISIS Gen MacArthur

[llmart]

50. Don't forget.....

ronald reagan

[Botany]

58. He is in way over his head

Trump can't string his thoughts together ..... He is speaking full Palin

[llmart]

67. So true...

He debates like a 6th grader.

[Botany]

74. Jobs /Tax Cuts /web sites /ISIS /Gen MacArthur .... D Trump

The man is a loon

[llmart]

86. Listening to him is painful.

I'm too old to tolerate this crap. Why he's even up there is beyond me.

[redwitch]

39. She is doing a great job so far!

I am relieved.

[book_worm]

40. He lost it about 10 minutes into it? couldn't keep his cool?

[nolabear]

42. Oh my GOD he's so bad.

[ornotna]

44. Yep, he has completely lost the plot

oy vey.

[MissB]

45. She just called him crazy!

[Feeling the Bern]

46. Someone give me stream I can watch in China. My VPN is being fuzzy so youtube is out.

Cspan doesn't work either because I don't have a US provider.

[ornotna]

79. found this

http://hollywoodlife.com/2016/09/26/first-presidential-debate-live-stream-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-online/

[a kennedy]

47. Lester stinks as a moderator........sorry JMHO. eom

[Frank Cannon]

83. I never expected anything less.

Lester is a talentless media whore piece of shit. I tried to warn you all. No one listened.

[elleng]

48. Oops. 'Join the debate by saying more crazy things.'

[book_worm]

49. He keeps interrupting--and Holt tries to shut him down

[a kennedy]

51. Love that trumped up to trickle down......

[helpisontheway]

60. It is already on twitter. Nt

[MissB]

52. He can't help himself - keeps interrupting

[Daemonaquila]

54. Save my liver!

28 minutes in, I've finished the first bottle.

[book_worm]

56. Typical career politician says Trump

[book_worm]

62. "The day Obama goes he will spend all his time at the golf course"!!!!!!!!!!!

[book_worm]

65. Keep attacking Obama, Trump--he's much more popular than you are.

[Frank Cannon]

133. He should thank God he's not running against Obama.

He would lose even worse than he will.

[SHRED]

57. he's a yapping dog

[Norbert]

59. He is trying to "Hannity" the debate.

Butting in early and often. I get so tired of this.

[martigras]

61. Cut Trump's mike if he can't keep his mouth shut when she speaks.

[Alameda]

63. he's such a bully

but he sounds better than I expected. He's not an idiot and he knows how to use the camera.

[Multichromatic]

64. Trump is trying to throw some populism out there

He is attacking Hillary on TPP and NAFTA...

Seems like this will be short lived though. I guess he could not help but blow his top
like a volcano. Angry Trump is melting DOWN!!! lol

[elleng]

66. Tax returns.

'I will release them.' when she releases the e.mails. Applause.

[procon]

68. This was supposed to be the calmer, 'presidential' Trump? nt

[phylny]

69. He has no nuance. He learned about trade.

He's a raging lunatic.

[avebury]

70. Holt is pushing him on the tax returns. nt

[book_worm]

71. Other people don't get audited!! yeah right.

[annabanana]

72. As soon as the audit is done.. I've been under audit for 15 years

[.99center]

73. Trump is now moderating the debate

Good job Lester!

[Daemonaquila]

75. Lie Lie Lie! The audit lie again.

So where is the fact check on this? That's not even a hard one. There should be a tweet at the bottom of the Bloomberg screen just saying "*Sigh* No, Donald. We already have debunked your audit claim a thousand times."

[annabanana]

76. audience racket for trump - figures - must be operatives

[nolabear]

77. He's a lying sack of shit.

[book_worm]

78. bait and switch

[Stonepounder]

80. LOL first he lies that he won't release his taxes because of the audit

then he says he's been under audet continually for the last 15 years. So he will never release his taxes.

[avebury]

81. Bait & Switch!

She is getting him good on the tax returns!

[book_worm]

82. maybe he is not as rich or charitable as he says he is

[Mamajami]

84. It's exactly what his base wants. And she is losing by not showing him to be all bluster right now.

The lack of regulation is what help led to the crash. Also, a lot of those job losses he is talking about were actually lost from one place in the country to another. TX gained a lot of those jobs he is talking about. AND Canada is our biggest NAFTA trading partner.

I was hoping she would have a better grip on the trade issue to explain what trade actually means and it does not mean loss of jobs. She just should have been more prepared. He is more believable because he is more understandable.

She missed on bringing up the money deals with Russia.

[Agnosticsherbet]

85. Trump just sighed

He should stick with one annoying tick.

[book_worm]

87. "There is something he is hiding"

[Daemonaquila]

88. Her debate prep is working.

I think she's been practicing at starting every statement with a bait. Good job!

[elleng]

89. 'There's something he's hiding.'

[underpants]

90. She did great on his taxes. Holt is holding him to it.

[bucolic_frolic]

91. She has really gotten under his skin

He looks like he's going to blow a gasket!

[book_worm]

92. "Not a mistake--it was on purpose"

[book_worm]

93. He looks mean and nasty and upset and flustered all at the same time.

[awake]

103. Angry Rich White Man

[WinstonSmith4740]

94. I need to make some popcorn.

Nailing him on the taxes. He tried to pass off his paying no taxes is "smart". He's still beating his own drum. Something tells me she's saving something for later.

[elleng]

95. 'I'm extremely underleveraged' means nothing to undecideds.

[underpants]

101. It's 650 but more but also less

[avebury]

96. She needs to it him up on his bankruptcies. nt

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

97. Tax returns don't tell ypu much!

Then release them donnie.

[book_worm]

98. "Somebody who knows something about money" how about all your bankruptcies, Trump!!??

[Glimmer of Hope]

99. She is killing it.

[Botany]

100. I'm under leveraged

loon

[megahertz]

102. Gish gallop again. Now he's talking about airport runway strips. ??

[llmart]

104. What a true patriot!

Now we're a third world country. Geez what a maroon!

[Feeling the Bern]

105. Non sequitir after non-sequitir.

Third world country? CHINA????? Airports in China are terrible, skeezix. I live in China!!!

[CharlotteVale]

106. She's killing him.

[yuiyoshida]

114. He is being so Defensive

She is pummeling him!

[nolabear]

107. DAMN girl. I have never been prouder of my Warrior!

[WinstonSmith4740]

108. We're a third world country?

Gee, didn't think it was that bad. Wow, now she's nailing him on how he stiffed businesses.

[redwitch]

109. Yes! She is going there! Stiffing the workers!

Go Hillary!

[book_worm]

110. now she is bringing up the people who he stiffed--and he isn't denying it.

[MissB]

115. Maybe they didn't deserve it?

Holy crap.

[Greywing]

111. He is babbling ... can't answer a single question on the issues

[avebury]

112. She is nailing him big time!

Talking about all the people he has stiffed!

[Mamajami]

113. She should hit him now on infrastructure being mess because of the GOP obstructing Obama

GOP obstructing jobs. Sorry you don't want to hear this but he is killing it with his bullshit.

She just hit him on not paying his workers.

Sorry, I have seen enough. I need to go back to Netflix.

[book_worm]

116. Bringing up his bankruptsies.

[book_worm]

117. It's all words...blah blah blah

[Daemonaquila]

118. He's PROUD of stiffing people.

Go! Go! Go! Now hit him on bankruptcy!

[megahertz]

119. Hillary is amazing. nt

[MissB]

120. Unbelievable company.

Best assets in the world.

[avebury]

121. He as absolutely no moral values. nt

She needs to point out all the non-US products in the Washington DC Hotel.

[BlueInPhilly]

122. Please keep the commentary going

I am not watching but I can hear the other BIP LOLing and thought the "You can't handle the truth" moment happened 10 minutes into the debate.

[avebury]

144. She is kicking his butt big time.

I am really impressed by her performance. She is calm and Presidential, he is bombastic.

[elleng]

123. Oh SHIT, DON'T talk about the DC hotel!

'Made in China!'

[MissB]

124. His voice is going

[book_worm]

125. Now onto race

[book_worm]

127. "race remains a significant challenge"--HRC

[book_worm]

130. She is giving a substantial answer on race.

[Feeling the Bern]

126. I'm glad my father didn't work for you. Boom goes the dynamite.

"King of Debt." Bankruptcies.

OUCH!!!

[elleng]

128. 2. Race relations

[WinstonSmith4740]

129. So far...

it's just been an "I'm fantastic & my companies are great" fest for him. Wish someone was showing an audience response poll somewhere.

[Feeling the Bern]

131. "taking advantage of laws" is not the way you should say it, asshole.

Oh jesus, more plugging of his shit. Fuck you, orange haired shitgibbon.

[book_worm]

132. Get guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them

[Daemonaquila]

134. Where's the split screen?

Hey Hey Hey! Go back to showing Snuffles' ugly mug!

[book_worm]

135. Secretary Clinton doesn't want to say "law and order"

[megahertz]

136. Trump says African Americans and Hispanics are living in hell. nt

[llmart]

137. "thousands"

Chicago
Thousands
Thousands

[bullwinkle428]

138. "Stop and frisk worked really well!"

[book_worm]

139. "Everybody gets warm feelings" in a city where Trump has investments.

[canetoad]

140. Who is

Lauren Norder?

[book_worm]

141. "A really against police judge"

[riversedge]

150. Did trump just contradict Lester when L. said profiling was unconstitutional?

[elleng]

156. Yes, and HRC disagreed w trump.

[riversedge]

201. Thanks. I had been distracted at the moment (home life)

[elleng]

204. She surely understand status of the law re: Stop and Frisk.

[riversedge]

142. LIVE FACT-CHECK: Trump is wrong about financial disclosures being better than tax returns.

PolitiFact ‏@PolitiFact 15m15 minutes ago

LIVE FACT-CHECK: Trump is wrong about financial disclosures being better than tax returns.
http://bit.ly/2djLIGj



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[Feeling the Bern]

143. Ve need law yunt order! See Kyle! See Kyle!

[BlueStater]

145. He sounds like a five year old explaining how he would fix the country to his preschool class. n/t

[llmart]

154. Yes.

What an ignoramus.

[femmocrat]

146. Holt just fact-checked him on "Stop and Frisk" and trump told Holt he is wrong!

It is unconstitutional. Drumpf claims it's not; the judge was biased.

[book_worm]

147. "I got property there" he has property everywhere!!

[Retrograde]

193. Not really

but he only seems to relate to a place if he has property there.

[nolabear]

148. She is just letting him spin. Smart woman.

[megahertz]

149. Trump debating moderator on Stop & Frisk legality.

[llmart]

164. True narcissist...

He is right about everything.

[Feeling the Bern]

151. illegal immigrants. Ahhh. . .here comes the racism!

No fucking substance! Word salad!

[book_worm]

152. Stop and frisk is unconstitutional!! you bet.

[WinstonSmith4740]

153. He is truly horrible.

In every possible way. As a person, a debater, a campaigner. Just. Awful.

[llmart]

159. Agreed.

n/t

[riversedge]

160. Trump is showing how stupid he is.

[riversedge]

155. Hillary: Stop and Frisk was found to be unconstitutional. take that trumpy!

[book_worm]

157. In many ways this is one of the best presidential debates I've seen

HRC is doing great and Trump is revealing himself for what he is.

[underpants]

158. Trump is going to take away guns

[LynnTTT]

161. Trump on the great airports

in Dubai and China etc. He doesn't understand that those were built by the government? That's the kind of infrastucture she should be talking about.

[femmocrat]

168. I thought she would mention her infrastructure proposal.

She did mention it earlier, but could have expanded it here. Probably not a biggie.

[JCanete]

162. holy shit! shouldn't be a profit motive for prisons! She's bringing me over, and not just my vote.nt

[book_worm]

163. Police want more support

[megahertz]

165. Hillary mentions implicit bias and police retraining. nt

[.99center]

166. Oh look, Lesters back and he has a follow up question..

For Hillary. This is going as expected.

[.99center]

175. Now would be a good time to follow up with Trump

What he means by "there is a political reason she is not supporting stop and frisk." Lester would never do such a thing. Oops ,Lester interrupted Trump again, you should be sorry Lester.

[bushalert]

167. Hills is calm, cool & collected.

[book_worm]

169. Now he is bringing up "super predator" comment--how about some of his racist comments?

[Coyotl]

170. ***** LIVE 2016 Presidential Debate III *****

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512443219

[Feeling the Bern]

171. He looks like he's about to be the guy Michael Ironside killed in "Scanners." Boom!

[book_worm]

172. tweet from Frank Luntz

Frank Luntz ✔ @FrankLuntz
Hillary Clinton has learned how to bait Trump. He doesn't know how to not take it.

Her attacks work. His defenses don't.

[sufrommich]

173. Trump won't do another debate,that's my prediction.

He'll find a way to weasel out. He looks like a clown up there.

[WIProgressive88]

180. I have been thinking the same thing. He is not handling this well at all.

[tblue37]

200. This. nt

[book_worm]

174. "you decided to stay home--and that's OK"

[book_worm]

176. Now bringing up birther issue

[Daemonaquila]

177. GOOOOOOOOOOOOAL!

"I was preparing for this debate and preparing to be President of the United States."

There ain't enough ice for that burn.

[book_worm]

178. "I got him to give the birth certificate"

[steve2470]

179. Trump is full of shit...talking about Blumenthal nt

[Danmel]

181. He is repulsive

I didn't fail to get the birth certificate because I want to fight Isis. I got him to produce it. Jesus Christ!

[WinstonSmith4740]

182. I really can't imagine

an undecided voter staying undecided, or deciding to vote for Trump, after this. He is awful, awful, awful.

Oh, resting bitch face. Love you Hillary.

[book_worm]

183. "I say nothing--I got him to produce it" how about your taxes, Trump!!!!

[Hoyt]

184. She's trying hard not to laugh in his face right now.

[book_worm]

185. HRC pointing out that it was a "racist lie"

[book_worm]

188. Donald began his career being sued in 1973 for not renting to African Americans.

[SCVDem]

186. Sure it isn't Stop and Sniff?!

This is worse than Sweaty Dick!

[tblue37]

187. She really is smacking him down--on everything. nt

[tblue37]

194. She is foregrounding all the crap in Trump's background that the MSM has kept buried.

He is sputtering and blubbering repetitiously in desperation about the birtherism and racism issue.

[book_worm]

189. HRC is cleaning up on the issue of race.

[peggysue2]

190. On the Defensive?

She has him by the balls!

[underpants]

191. Holt has brought up his taxes and his birtherism.

[book_worm]

192. He is on the defensive over and over.

[WinstonSmith4740]

195. You youngsters out there won't understand this...

But that sniff is gonna go down in debate history along with Nixon's 5 o'clock shadow and sweaty upper lip.

[bushalert]

198. Yep. Disgusting sniffer.

[bullwinkle428]

196. If no one on MSNBC brings up the sniffling...

[book_worm]

197. bringing up cyber attacks and Putin.

[spooky3]

198. Thanks, everyone. I couldn't watch so appreciate

Knowing what happened.

[LuckyLib]

202. He is over and out. Completely nuts and completely uninformed.

[tblue37]

203. He just fat shamed a hypothetical 400-pound hacker! nt

[tblue37]

205. He is simply *incoherent*! nt