On the "he won the first 20 minutes" meme....

[scheming daemons]

Yes.

If this were baseball, he scored a run in the first inning on his way to a 9-1 loss.

If this were football, he got a field goal on his opening drive on the way to losing 49-3.

If this were golf, he birdied the first hole but finished 10 over par while Hillary parred the first hole and finished 5 under par.

If this were chess, he captured a pawn early on but was checkmated before the 15th move.

If this were boxing, he got a jab in but then was knocked out cold before the 3rd round was over.

If this were NASCAR, he was leading after 10 laps...... but then crashed into the wall.

[Maeve]

1. Says something about his 'ability to go the distance', don't it?

*snort*

[whistler162]

2. Must have happened after the first 10 - 15 minutes

of the debate. 'Cause he lost those minutes by not returning Hillary's greeting!

[JoePhilly]

3. They are desparate to find anything he did well.

The fact is, he spent the first 20 minutes sniffing loudly, and make the "who farted?" face.

[Tanuki]

4. All he did in the first 20 minutes was recite some canned talking points that someone else wrote.

Once they scratched the surface and got into the give-and-take, think-on-your feet, show us what you've really got part of the debate, he had nothing, and was reduced to lurching incoherently from one disconnected partial sentence to another.

[BlueMTexpat]

15. Exactly - and he

repeated many of the same ones over and over.

[C_U_L8R]

5. This isn't suburban soccer.

And no Donnie you don't get a medal for just showing up.
You just got your ass kicked in front of 100 million people
by the world's finest girl.

[cyberswede]

6. Perfect. nt

[Iliyah]

7. What were the lies in that 20 minutes.

The man does know a lie from the truth.

[Lithos]

8. Won the first 20 minutes

BS - more like it took 20 minutes for Hillary to warm up and kick his butt... He just barely survived the first 20 minutes - he did not win them.

[scheming daemons]

9. In Trump world.... surviving is winning.

He had her SLIGHTLY on the defensive on TPP...... but that ended quickly and he was on the defensive the rest of the night.

[Lithos]

10. Agree

He sets a low bar even for himself...

L-

[Cicada]

11. Van Jones said millions stop watching after 30 minutes

And he thought Trump was strong early.

I would like to see if it's true that the audience fell.

[bettyellen]

16. They said there was very little drop off after the first thirty- and you know what?

She played him and got him on the ropes bad at about 23-25 minutes in, just when the first groups start changing the channel. She went for him big time, and they stayed to watch it instead.

[Demsrule86]

12. Basically to put it crudely...

He didn't trip over his dick the first twenty minutes...then came the question about the small 14 million dollar loan...probably 80 million today...and he fell headfirst into the pit...Trump wounded ego hell.

[LiberalFighter]

13. Borrowed

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[NWCorona]

14. He lost pretty much from jump. So ill prepared

[fishwax]

17. I think he maintained in the first 20 minutes, but that's about it

he did reasonably well, given his lack of experience and expertise, in those first twenty minutes. His responses had some semblance of structure, and he had some talking points that he clearly wanted to reiterate and did. He didn't win those twenty minutes, but he managed to save the really embarrassing stuff for the 80 minutes that came after.

[treestar]

18. That's desperate

In what way did he "win" the first 20 minutes? He sucked the whole time. I didn't notice any difference.