Helpful Critiques of Hillary Clinton’s Mouth Shape From Men Watching the Debate

[ehrnst]

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Monday night’s presidential debate looked and sounded like a tiff between a petulant, sociopathic toddler and the world’s most patient, cool-headed teacher. Hillary Clinton was unflappable, maintaining a calm, slightly condescending smile while Donald Trump dribbled out bits of wordstuff. She stuck to facts and arguments without taking his ad hominem bait, while he shredded whatever bits of political decorum America has left.

One would think that people would be pleased to see Clinton’s good-natured smile—she’s weathered a constant battering of smile, sweeties from the likes of Reince Priebus, Joe Scarborough, and millions of Twitter randos since the start of this campaign cycle. And yet, Clinton did not satisfy all! Some pundits were repulsed by the pleasant, relaxed shape she made with her mouth on Monday night—not a good sign for an aspiring president. (Trump sniffled through the entire thing and kept his mouth in a stiff duck lip, but who’s counting?) Here’s some much-needed advice for Clinton from people who know what presidential mouths and shoulders and faces should do.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2016/09/27/hillary_clinton_s_mouth_shape_at_debate_on_trial_from_men_with_opinions.html

[DetlefK]

1. "She should smile more when talking about terrorism." - "She should smile less when debating."

[Sunlei]

2. /ignore twitter

[msanthrope]

4. /ignore men on twitter. nt

[yardwork]

3. This is very familiar to all working women.

No matter what we do, we will be criticized. Too dressed up or not dressed up enough. "Was something bothering you during the meeting? You looked upset." (Translation - smile more when men are talking.)

Male managers often speak of professional women in demeaning terms - "She's so sweet" is praise for women who smile a lot and seem traditionally feminine. Eye rolls and less complimentary comments about others who are "too harsh." Meanwhile, men are not held to these ridiculous standards.

It's better than it used to be. And Michelle Obama created a powerful reminder - When they go low, we go high.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

7. For black women, it's twice as bad. We're fucked no matter what we do and stereotyped

for being black on top of that. Sucks big time!

[hlthe2b]

11. Isn't that ^^^ the damned truth...

I've ceased talking about what I experienced at the hands of supposed "professional" male colleagues, supervisors, managers. It is just too painful and blood pressure raising. That is why I feel a bit of catharsis via Hillary and Michelle.

[alcibiades_mystery]

5. After years of discussion of this

I can't imagine how any grown ass man still doesn't know that commenting on the smile or lack thereof of a grown ass woman is a third rail operation. These are journalists and pundits that feel it's OK to critique Clinton's smiles? Did they ever mention fuck all about John McCain's facial expressions?

[justiceischeap]

10. It's because there's absolutely nothing else they could critique her on

I mean, if they're only "meaningful" commentary is direction on how to smile--that says a lot about her performance and their lack of confidence when it comes t grading a strong performance by, *gasp*, a female.

[Sanity Claws]

6. All men

I looked through the linked article and see it was men making all those "helpful" comments.
I am so sick of cavemen telling women how we should look, behave, etc.

[SamKnause]

8. Have any of these people seen Trump's mouth ???

It looks like a turkey's asshole turned inside out.

He has gained weight.

His suits never fit and look cheap and tacky !!!

His hair is a joke.

His skin color is a joke.

His vocabulary is extremely limited.

If his lips are moving he is lying.

[sinkingfeeling]

9. +1000. Exactly. His little, puckered mouth is his biggest physical

turnoff to me. His orange skin, with white eye mask and Bobby pinned hair just completes the 'ugh' factor.

[bigwillq]

12. I think Hillary's smile is nice (nt)

[nolabear]

13. I liked her smile. You could see the bits of Donald in her teeth.

[mercuryblues]

15. LOL

I am so glad I was not taking a sip of coffee when I read that.

[alcibiades_mystery]

16. Hahahaha...well played

[betsuni]

14. From Chelsea Handler: