2016 Postmortem
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(14,400 posts)that guy is out of his fucking mind.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)This is true. So where does Trump have the right to talk about what other women do?
http://nypost.com/2016/08/01/melania-trumps-girl-on-girl-photos-from-racy-shoot-revealed/
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)There are standards for the average peon, worker bee, and then there are different, actually no, rules for the royal chosen ones.
Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)She did a topless shoot for Playboy (whatever... that's like every Miss <fill in the blank> ) and has acted in a number of shows where there are some slightly racy scenes. When you act in telenovelas, that's par for the course.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)as "provocative" as Melania did when she posed nude with another woman.
I don't think there's anything in the world wrong with what either of the women have done it's the unmitigated hypocrisy of the Trump campaign that stuns me. Trump calling Alicia M "disgusting" is absolutely deplorable.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Hillary was right to declare him deplorable.
forgotmylogin
(7,530 posts)Just saying.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Here is the link:
http://nypost.com/2016/08/01/melania-trumps-girl-on-girl-photos-from-racy-shoot-revealed/
Heres the nations would-be first lady and right beside her, a second lady.
Donald Trump wife, Melania Trump was snapped in a nude frolic with another female model, bombshell photos obtained exclusively by The Post show.
C_U_L8R
(45,014 posts)that he apparently can't keep track of them all.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,014 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Funny as hell Thanks C_U_L8R
omg..haaa
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)He's really lost the plot. I think he needs help.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Yup, an ass porno called Apprentass 4 and starring Dark Angel. Love the irony!
Donald sure knows how to step in a pile of his own doing. Bringing new meaning to reality T-V show every day ....
Daemonaquila
(1,712 posts)Just because there's a spoof porno with someone entirely different doing the sex, doesn't mean that a sex tape he is alleging "exists."
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)With Trump being so obsessed with this his judgement went down the drain, I suspect he got shut down and slapped too.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)It's still character assassination, shaming.
JustAnotherGen
(31,839 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,590 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,839 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]
nolabear
(41,990 posts)about "Where did you find that?" before she had even said her piece makes me wonder. Everything she said wasn't hidden, didn't need finding. Is there something that does?
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)He (they) thought all the tracks to his deplorable past had been covered up, or too long ago, for anybody to notice. NOT,
kcr
(15,318 posts)I bet there is so much shit, at least half of it buried, that he can't keep it all straight.
calguy
(5,324 posts)The way she threw out that bait at the end of the debate, he takes the bait and runs with it all week. Now here he is hopelessly hooked and thrashing around the boat. Looks like she hooked a whopper!!
TRUMP-BS-DETECTOR
(68 posts)Somebody said their is a video of her having sex. But now i think these idiots found a porn
video of someone with the same name who may look like her.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,027 posts)underpants
(182,861 posts)and she did have sex (our reality shows really suck) under the covers. It was shot in night vision.
I've seen the stills.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,027 posts)underpants
(182,861 posts)He's preaching to the choir. The cheers at his rallies aren't because they agree with him, they are just there to hear the "greatest hits". Basically it's like a pro wrestling act.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)underpants
(182,861 posts)Every square inch of the house is wired for sound and video. They form alliances and compete and vote people out. The last one wins and gets $500,000 on the US version. There are versions around the world. The one in England makes people, supposedly selected only from their video application, into semi-stars. It is heavily watched there. My wife used to watch it. I found it so bad that I could offer suggestions on making it better - I've watched a lot of TV in my time. The US version is hosted by CBS President Les Moonves's wife Julie Chen - imagine Wolf Blitzer less attuned to the person he is speaking with.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)two people pretending to have sex.
SCANDALOUS.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)It sounds like the lamest "sex-tape" ever, imo.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)about the exchange between Hillary and Donald where she points out the names he call women, then references Alicia Machado. Trump asks,
He apparently has no concept that information can exist outside of what he thinks. He's the ultimate narcissist, and probably does not believe that anyone else is completely real.
But let him keep on stumbling and making a fool of himself. Perhaps more of his current "supporters" will finally start seeing through his lies.
underpants
(182,861 posts)He had NO IDEA this was coming. After the drubbing he'd been taking she waited for the right time and BAM! He was out of gas.
It shows how much of a bubble he lives in, as you said.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Complete blindside smash.
And He is losing what remains of his mind.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I would assume that all of Trump's contracts have non-disclosure and non-disparagement clauses in them.
I would further assume she is violating the contract, that Team Clinton has indemnified her, and that Trump's "Where did you get that?" was more of a "Who can I sue?" moment.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)with a copy of a contract, that could be interesting.
I was reading just yesterday that beauty pageant contracts do NOT have a clause about weight gain.
In any case, Trump himself said all of those things, or tweeted them, meaning there was no breaching of any confidentiality agreements.
Again, he just does not understand that what he tweets and what he says in public stays out there for anyone to see.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Whatever contracts in general might say, is not relevant.
The Trump Organization, in general, requires NDA's and non-disparagement clauses. The contract would itself likely be confidential (and, yes, you can sue on a confidential contract and keep the contract itself sealed).
Under such a contract what HE says about HER in public is irrelevant. If I have you sign a contract with me that says "You agree not to say anything bad about anything that happened during the term of this contract" (and have a survival clause for that clause), then it doesn't matter what I say about you in public thereafter.
Throughout the debate, Trump interjected with "wrong" and "not true". On this one, his reaction was "where did you get that?"
Very different reaction to other things he disputed in his various gruntings.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,873 posts)that Trump was the one to make all of those comments about Ms. Machado. She only started speaking in response to them. Plus, no one has suggested that she'd signed some sort of confidentiality agreement, least of all Trump or his people. And I'm sure they would have threatened to sue her by now if that were the case.
It's almost as if he has some sort of memory defect and simply cannot recall anything his says from one minute to the next.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)After he loses the election, I won't be surprised if this is revealed. The kids would want to declare him incompetent, for the purpose of preserving their inheritances. If everything I am saying is true, there will be a feeding frenzy among his spoiled kids to grab as much of the money as possible. Barron would probably be the big loser, cause Melania seems to not have a clue.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)I doubt her opinions matter in that household.
She's not exactly busting at the seams to campaign for him.
And I doubt she sees herself and her son as being on the "same team" as the other Trump kids. He's not going to outlive her, and that pie is going to get divvied up. I'll bet she has a few opinions on that subject.
treestar
(82,383 posts)taped him taking her to the gym - he made that public and so he can't make it confidential.
Look, if I have a contract with you in which you are going to work for my entertainment franchise, then it's perfectly fine for me to say, "you will consent to whatever televised productions or promotions we make, you'll keep smiling, and you won't badmouth us in the future."
Not everything in a contract needs to be mutual or reciprocal.
Yes, there he is doing the gym thing and making comments about her weight, in the course of promoting the pageant, himself, whatever - and there she is smiling and working out and laughing along.
Someone could look at that and say, "Oh, well, it wasn't really bothering her" not realizing it was her JOB to look happy, regardless of how she felt - and in much the same way that women every day opt to "laugh along" and "be one of the guys" instead of "making a big deal about it".
Come on. You think Ivana and Marla are so quiet because they are introverts who shy from media attention?
No, it's because a dick like Trump has contracts drafted by lawyers who know how much of a dick he is, and make sure that there are clauses dealing with subsequent public statements.
Honestly, imagine you write contracts for Trump, to be signed by people who are going to have any kind of dealings with him. What would you put in there? Hell, I'd want it signed in the contractor's blood.
This is a guy who denied saying he was smart for not paying taxes, within minutes of actually saying just that.
He has no problem saying "I never said that" to things he has actually said.
But on this one - uniquely - it was "where did you get that?" He wanted to know if she was badmouthing him.
As a practical matter, even if he had a non-disparagement clause, it would be insane to try to enforce it since there's no time for that, and it would look insanely bad.
But that reaction, IMHO, was uniquely different from his usual "wrong", "not true", "I never said that". This was the reaction of the little boy who has been ratted out to the teacher and wants to know who did it.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Just like an incredible number of other people who say Donald never paid them.
He is scum.
uponit7771
(90,348 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,027 posts)underpants
(182,861 posts)under the covers night vision filmed. I've seen the stills on a pro-Trump Facebook post. She also dated MLB baseball player Bobby Abreu at one point.
They are in full eeeevil woman! with TGE SEX trashing mode.
ram2008
(1,238 posts)But it's not a self made sex tape or porn. It's one of those hidden camera reality tv type sex videos. She's clearly having sex in the video although the footage is grainy and dark-- regardless that is none of our business and shouldn't be used as a line of attack against her.
underpants
(182,861 posts)It has nothing to do with how he treated her.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)So good of Donald to call attention to the Apprentass series. Maybe he investing in their stock
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)That being said audio was edited on Joe Millionaire to make it seem like a girl was giving the main guy a bj counter to what was actually happening so I'd take anything scandalous on the reality show with a large grain of salt.
Skoods
(341 posts)Donald Trump calls women fat pigs, housekeepers, slobs, etc and we are debating whether or not a beautiful woman made a sex tape?
The FIRST AMENDMENT guarantees that she is allowed to make whatever sort of tape she wants.
Even if she had made a sex tape, it doesn't make what trump said any better!
If a man had made a sex tape, no one would care!
HELL, DONALD's BEST BUD SCOTT BROWN POSED NUDE IN PLAYGIRL!
SEXIST! Bullshit!
Jim Dandy
(358 posts)pandr32
(11,601 posts)DT has basically gone from fat-shaming to slut shaming. A surfaced sex tape does not erase the fat-shaming damage Trump inflicted on this young woman.
I do not think there is a sex tape of her, but sometimes women are involved in these tapes for private purposes, and sometimes they are unwittingly taped. Some women may be offered a whole lot of money to be involved, too, and as we know women are often financially disadvantaged. The subject of sex tapes is a whole new can of worms.
By the way, didn't Melania Trump foray into the exploitation arena--self, or otherwise?
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)wildeyed
(11,243 posts)I thought there was a sex tape of DONALD TRUMP for a minute. Talk about something you would never be able to unsee....
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)[img][/img] Nope, won't get rid of everything.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)Trump is a powerful old man who bullied and humiliated a younger, vulnerable person, who went on to have emotional/mental issues as a result.
Machado is a sexy model/actress/singer so of course she's done some softcore shoots (Playboy, Maxim) like every other actress out there that wants to advance their career/brand. That's just good business. She may or may not have done an amateur porn tape, good for her. Porn is a mainstream thing, especially amongst the younger generations.
This line of attack is going to backfire bigly on Trump/GOP, because it is simply more sexist bullying on his part, which will further drive away women, independent and millennial voters.
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)This is coming from a man who inappropriately grabs his daughter's butt/hip.
But even that is beside the point. Fucking hypocritical chauvinistic piece of shit.