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WHAT SEX TAPE??????? (Original Post) MoonRiver Sep 2016 OP
The one in Trumps fever dream sharp_stick Sep 2016 #1
That's what I thought. MoonRiver Sep 2016 #2
Here's the Snopes on it sharp_stick Sep 2016 #4
Lying Don the Con caught once again. MoonRiver Sep 2016 #18
Wait a min. Trump's wife did do a lesbian photo shoot. UCmeNdc Sep 2016 #63
See, it goes like this. MoonRiver Sep 2016 #67
There is none. Already debunked. Daemonaquila Sep 2016 #3
Oh, you mean like Rump's wife? Got it! MoonRiver Sep 2016 #5
Right. As far as I can see, she hasn't done anything sarae Sep 2016 #13
What you said! MoonRiver Sep 2016 #19
Although Vanessa Williams was pilloried as Miss America for same. forgotmylogin Sep 2016 #66
Melania Trump’s girl-on-girl photos from racy shoot revealed UCmeNdc Sep 2016 #64
Trumps been watching so many in the middle of the night C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #6
Maybe because that's all he can do anymore? MoonRiver Sep 2016 #8
Small idle hands doing the devil's work C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #9
Ok, I better stop right there... MoonRiver Sep 2016 #10
Haaahaa..haahaaaahaa misterhighwasted Sep 2016 #14
I just threw up a little in my mouth. Ugh. anneboleyn Sep 2016 #68
Ha! Oh nooo..my eyes! misterhighwasted Sep 2016 #15
The fact that there's no actual sex tape moves the whole episode from weird to crazy alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #7
The actual sex tape exists and was Photoshopped. Brace yourself: "Apprentass 4" Coyotl Sep 2016 #38
That's not the same as the sex tape "existing." Daemonaquila Sep 2016 #46
Exactly my point. The "Apprentass4" video is a Dark Angel porn film that was altered. Coyotl Sep 2016 #62
I think he's talking about the time she had sex on the Spanish big brother NWCorona Sep 2016 #11
Melania's? JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #12
Ivanka's. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2016 #34
n/t JustAnotherGen Sep 2016 #42
This is probably the ONLY time he researched something. And he STILL got it wrong! randome Sep 2016 #16
Does he fear Hills has more on him? That debate reply nolabear Sep 2016 #17
I thought exactly the same thing. MoonRiver Sep 2016 #21
Good catch. kcr Sep 2016 #24
Hillary's campaign was brilliant calguy Sep 2016 #20
Cnn says their is a sex tape TRUMP-BS-DETECTOR Sep 2016 #22
I doubt it was the same name. But someone who looks like her is what I read. randome Sep 2016 #23
Snopes found that the 'sex tape' was by Angel Dark and renamed to A.M., hence it is bogus. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #27
She was on a 'Big Brother' type reality show underpants Sep 2016 #28
Yeah, butt (!) that's not Donald Trump's Anal Sex Tape. Ask fundies & evangelicals about that. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #29
I know. He, once again, just repeats RW memes and talking points. underpants Sep 2016 #33
What is a 'Big Brother' type reality show? MoonRiver Sep 2016 #35
Big Brother is a show where 16 people get locked in a house underpants Sep 2016 #36
O.K. MoonRiver Sep 2016 #39
It's also speculated that the scene was staged. So a fake, grainy, blurry, dark "video" of Maru Kitteh Sep 2016 #55
So it's fake sex just like Melania's photo shoot. bettyellen Sep 2016 #56
Well, if Melania had done her fake sex under a blanket in the dark maybe. Maru Kitteh Sep 2016 #57
Oh yeah, she and the other woman were actually naked right? Except for machine guns? bettyellen Sep 2016 #59
The very most interesting thing, to me at least, PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #25
I agree. That is a much overlooked part of the debate. underpants Sep 2016 #37
Exactly. alphafemale Sep 2016 #43
I think there was a little more to that jberryhill Sep 2016 #44
I wouldn't count on that, although if someone comes up PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #50
I think you may have missed my point jberryhill Sep 2016 #52
I'm under the distinct impression PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #53
I've been saying for months that I think he has early dementia. MoonRiver Sep 2016 #70
Who knows what, if anything, she has a clue about jberryhill Sep 2016 #73
Would it matter that he was the one who treestar Sep 2016 #69
No jberryhill Sep 2016 #71
Well....apparently she was never paid anyway. alphafemale Sep 2016 #72
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2016 #74
Trump's Anal Sex Tape is Angel Dark, not A.M. Explain that to christian children & conserv. kids. Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #26
He's referring to the fake porno but she was on a 'Big Brother' type reality show and had sex underpants Sep 2016 #30
There is a video of her having sex ram2008 Sep 2016 #31
Yep and exactly underpants Sep 2016 #32
Yep, there is a Photoshopped version of Appentass 4, her face added. n/t Coyotl Sep 2016 #40
There is a under the covers clip from a reality T.V. show... SaschaHM Sep 2016 #41
Ummm wait...why does it matter if she made a sex tape? Skoods Sep 2016 #45
She should sue this idiot Jim Dandy Sep 2016 #47
So what if there is a sex tape with AM pandr32 Sep 2016 #48
Sex Tape? Is that what Don uses to hold his small limp member erect? In_The_Wind Sep 2016 #49
Dammit! wildeyed Sep 2016 #51
Hahaha In_The_Wind Sep 2016 #54
Gah! wildeyed Sep 2016 #58
Irrelevant. The issue is that of a nasty older person bullying a younger one. radius777 Sep 2016 #60
She didn't. But SO FUCKING what if she did????? lillypaddle Sep 2016 #61
Here’s the nation’s would-be first lady — and right beside her, a second lady. UCmeNdc Sep 2016 #65

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
67. See, it goes like this.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 07:44 PM
Sep 2016

There are standards for the average peon, worker bee, and then there are different, actually no, rules for the royal chosen ones.

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
3. There is none. Already debunked.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:12 PM
Sep 2016

She did a topless shoot for Playboy (whatever... that's like every Miss <fill in the blank> ) and has acted in a number of shows where there are some slightly racy scenes. When you act in telenovelas, that's par for the course.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
13. Right. As far as I can see, she hasn't done anything
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:22 PM
Sep 2016

as "provocative" as Melania did when she posed nude with another woman.

I don't think there's anything in the world wrong with what either of the women have done – it's the unmitigated hypocrisy of the Trump campaign that stuns me. Trump calling Alicia M "disgusting" is absolutely deplorable.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
64. Melania Trump’s girl-on-girl photos from racy shoot revealed
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:56 PM
Sep 2016

Here is the link:

http://nypost.com/2016/08/01/melania-trumps-girl-on-girl-photos-from-racy-shoot-revealed/


Here’s the nation’s would-be first lady — and right beside her, a second lady.

Donald Trump wife, Melania Trump was snapped in a nude frolic with another female model, bombshell photos obtained exclusively by The Post show.

C_U_L8R

(45,014 posts)
6. Trumps been watching so many in the middle of the night
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:13 PM
Sep 2016

that he apparently can't keep track of them all.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
7. The fact that there's no actual sex tape moves the whole episode from weird to crazy
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:13 PM
Sep 2016

He's really lost the plot. I think he needs help.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
38. The actual sex tape exists and was Photoshopped. Brace yourself: "Apprentass 4"
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:28 PM
Sep 2016

Yup, an ass porno called Apprentass 4 and starring Dark Angel. Love the irony!

Donald sure knows how to step in a pile of his own doing. Bringing new meaning to reality T-V show every day ....

 

Daemonaquila

(1,712 posts)
46. That's not the same as the sex tape "existing."
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:05 PM
Sep 2016

Just because there's a spoof porno with someone entirely different doing the sex, doesn't mean that a sex tape he is alleging "exists."

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
62. Exactly my point. The "Apprentass4" video is a Dark Angel porn film that was altered.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:47 PM
Sep 2016

With Trump being so obsessed with this his judgement went down the drain, I suspect he got shut down and slapped too.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
11. I think he's talking about the time she had sex on the Spanish big brother
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:20 PM
Sep 2016

It's still character assassination, shaming.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. This is probably the ONLY time he researched something. And he STILL got it wrong!
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:25 PM
Sep 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
[/center][/font][hr]

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
17. Does he fear Hills has more on him? That debate reply
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:26 PM
Sep 2016

about "Where did you find that?" before she had even said her piece makes me wonder. Everything she said wasn't hidden, didn't need finding. Is there something that does?

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
21. I thought exactly the same thing.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:33 PM
Sep 2016

He (they) thought all the tracks to his deplorable past had been covered up, or too long ago, for anybody to notice. NOT,

kcr

(15,318 posts)
24. Good catch.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:43 PM
Sep 2016

I bet there is so much shit, at least half of it buried, that he can't keep it all straight.

calguy

(5,324 posts)
20. Hillary's campaign was brilliant
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:32 PM
Sep 2016

The way she threw out that bait at the end of the debate, he takes the bait and runs with it all week. Now here he is hopelessly hooked and thrashing around the boat. Looks like she hooked a whopper!!

 
22. Cnn says their is a sex tape
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:36 PM
Sep 2016

Somebody said their is a video of her having sex. But now i think these idiots found a porn
video of someone with the same name who may look like her.
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. I doubt it was the same name. But someone who looks like her is what I read.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:38 PM
Sep 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
[/center][/font][hr]

underpants

(182,861 posts)
28. She was on a 'Big Brother' type reality show
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:04 PM
Sep 2016

and she did have sex (our reality shows really suck) under the covers. It was shot in night vision.

I've seen the stills.

underpants

(182,861 posts)
33. I know. He, once again, just repeats RW memes and talking points.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:11 PM
Sep 2016

He's preaching to the choir. The cheers at his rallies aren't because they agree with him, they are just there to hear the "greatest hits". Basically it's like a pro wrestling act.

underpants

(182,861 posts)
36. Big Brother is a show where 16 people get locked in a house
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:21 PM
Sep 2016

Every square inch of the house is wired for sound and video. They form alliances and compete and vote people out. The last one wins and gets $500,000 on the US version. There are versions around the world. The one in England makes people, supposedly selected only from their video application, into semi-stars. It is heavily watched there. My wife used to watch it. I found it so bad that I could offer suggestions on making it better - I've watched a lot of TV in my time. The US version is hosted by CBS President Les Moonves's wife Julie Chen - imagine Wolf Blitzer less attuned to the person he is speaking with.

Maru Kitteh

(28,342 posts)
55. It's also speculated that the scene was staged. So a fake, grainy, blurry, dark "video" of
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:02 PM
Sep 2016

two people pretending to have sex.

SCANDALOUS.

Maru Kitteh

(28,342 posts)
57. Well, if Melania had done her fake sex under a blanket in the dark maybe.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:10 PM
Sep 2016

It sounds like the lamest "sex-tape" ever, imo.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,873 posts)
25. The very most interesting thing, to me at least,
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:45 PM
Sep 2016

about the exchange between Hillary and Donald where she points out the names he call women, then references Alicia Machado. Trump asks,

Where did you find this? Where did you find this?


He apparently has no concept that information can exist outside of what he thinks. He's the ultimate narcissist, and probably does not believe that anyone else is completely real.

But let him keep on stumbling and making a fool of himself. Perhaps more of his current "supporters" will finally start seeing through his lies.

underpants

(182,861 posts)
37. I agree. That is a much overlooked part of the debate.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:24 PM
Sep 2016

He had NO IDEA this was coming. After the drubbing he'd been taking she waited for the right time and BAM! He was out of gas.

It shows how much of a bubble he lives in, as you said.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
44. I think there was a little more to that
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:55 PM
Sep 2016

I would assume that all of Trump's contracts have non-disclosure and non-disparagement clauses in them.

I would further assume she is violating the contract, that Team Clinton has indemnified her, and that Trump's "Where did you get that?" was more of a "Who can I sue?" moment.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,873 posts)
50. I wouldn't count on that, although if someone comes up
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:31 PM
Sep 2016

with a copy of a contract, that could be interesting.

I was reading just yesterday that beauty pageant contracts do NOT have a clause about weight gain.

In any case, Trump himself said all of those things, or tweeted them, meaning there was no breaching of any confidentiality agreements.

Again, he just does not understand that what he tweets and what he says in public stays out there for anyone to see.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
52. I think you may have missed my point
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:50 PM
Sep 2016

Whatever contracts in general might say, is not relevant.

The Trump Organization, in general, requires NDA's and non-disparagement clauses. The contract would itself likely be confidential (and, yes, you can sue on a confidential contract and keep the contract itself sealed).

Under such a contract what HE says about HER in public is irrelevant. If I have you sign a contract with me that says "You agree not to say anything bad about anything that happened during the term of this contract" (and have a survival clause for that clause), then it doesn't matter what I say about you in public thereafter.

Throughout the debate, Trump interjected with "wrong" and "not true". On this one, his reaction was "where did you get that?"

Very different reaction to other things he disputed in his various gruntings.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,873 posts)
53. I'm under the distinct impression
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:53 PM
Sep 2016

that Trump was the one to make all of those comments about Ms. Machado. She only started speaking in response to them. Plus, no one has suggested that she'd signed some sort of confidentiality agreement, least of all Trump or his people. And I'm sure they would have threatened to sue her by now if that were the case.

It's almost as if he has some sort of memory defect and simply cannot recall anything his says from one minute to the next.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
70. I've been saying for months that I think he has early dementia.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 08:21 PM
Sep 2016

After he loses the election, I won't be surprised if this is revealed. The kids would want to declare him incompetent, for the purpose of preserving their inheritances. If everything I am saying is true, there will be a feeding frenzy among his spoiled kids to grab as much of the money as possible. Barron would probably be the big loser, cause Melania seems to not have a clue.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
73. Who knows what, if anything, she has a clue about
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:38 PM
Sep 2016

I doubt her opinions matter in that household.

She's not exactly busting at the seams to campaign for him.

And I doubt she sees herself and her son as being on the "same team" as the other Trump kids. He's not going to outlive her, and that pie is going to get divvied up. I'll bet she has a few opinions on that subject.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
69. Would it matter that he was the one who
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 08:04 PM
Sep 2016

taped him taking her to the gym - he made that public and so he can't make it confidential.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
71. No
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:09 PM
Sep 2016

Look, if I have a contract with you in which you are going to work for my entertainment franchise, then it's perfectly fine for me to say, "you will consent to whatever televised productions or promotions we make, you'll keep smiling, and you won't badmouth us in the future."

Not everything in a contract needs to be mutual or reciprocal.

Yes, there he is doing the gym thing and making comments about her weight, in the course of promoting the pageant, himself, whatever - and there she is smiling and working out and laughing along.

Someone could look at that and say, "Oh, well, it wasn't really bothering her" not realizing it was her JOB to look happy, regardless of how she felt - and in much the same way that women every day opt to "laugh along" and "be one of the guys" instead of "making a big deal about it".

Come on. You think Ivana and Marla are so quiet because they are introverts who shy from media attention?

No, it's because a dick like Trump has contracts drafted by lawyers who know how much of a dick he is, and make sure that there are clauses dealing with subsequent public statements.

Honestly, imagine you write contracts for Trump, to be signed by people who are going to have any kind of dealings with him. What would you put in there? Hell, I'd want it signed in the contractor's blood.

This is a guy who denied saying he was smart for not paying taxes, within minutes of actually saying just that.

He has no problem saying "I never said that" to things he has actually said.

But on this one - uniquely - it was "where did you get that?" He wanted to know if she was badmouthing him.

As a practical matter, even if he had a non-disparagement clause, it would be insane to try to enforce it since there's no time for that, and it would look insanely bad.

But that reaction, IMHO, was uniquely different from his usual "wrong", "not true", "I never said that". This was the reaction of the little boy who has been ratted out to the teacher and wants to know who did it.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
72. Well....apparently she was never paid anyway.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 09:17 PM
Sep 2016

Just like an incredible number of other people who say Donald never paid them.

He is scum.

underpants

(182,861 posts)
30. He's referring to the fake porno but she was on a 'Big Brother' type reality show and had sex
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:07 PM
Sep 2016

under the covers night vision filmed. I've seen the stills on a pro-Trump Facebook post. She also dated MLB baseball player Bobby Abreu at one point.

They are in full eeeevil woman! with TGE SEX trashing mode.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
31. There is a video of her having sex
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:07 PM
Sep 2016

But it's not a self made sex tape or porn. It's one of those hidden camera reality tv type sex videos. She's clearly having sex in the video although the footage is grainy and dark-- regardless that is none of our business and shouldn't be used as a line of attack against her.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
40. Yep, there is a Photoshopped version of Appentass 4, her face added. n/t
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:32 PM
Sep 2016

So good of Donald to call attention to the Apprentass series. Maybe he investing in their stock

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
41. There is a under the covers clip from a reality T.V. show...
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:33 PM
Sep 2016

That being said audio was edited on Joe Millionaire to make it seem like a girl was giving the main guy a bj counter to what was actually happening so I'd take anything scandalous on the reality show with a large grain of salt.

 

Skoods

(341 posts)
45. Ummm wait...why does it matter if she made a sex tape?
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:56 PM
Sep 2016

Donald Trump calls women fat pigs, housekeepers, slobs, etc and we are debating whether or not a beautiful woman made a sex tape?

The FIRST AMENDMENT guarantees that she is allowed to make whatever sort of tape she wants.

Even if she had made a sex tape, it doesn't make what trump said any better!

If a man had made a sex tape, no one would care!

HELL, DONALD's BEST BUD SCOTT BROWN POSED NUDE IN PLAYGIRL!

SEXIST! Bullshit!

pandr32

(11,601 posts)
48. So what if there is a sex tape with AM
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:25 PM
Sep 2016

DT has basically gone from fat-shaming to slut shaming. A surfaced sex tape does not erase the fat-shaming damage Trump inflicted on this young woman.
I do not think there is a sex tape of her, but sometimes women are involved in these tapes for private purposes, and sometimes they are unwittingly taped. Some women may be offered a whole lot of money to be involved, too, and as we know women are often financially disadvantaged. The subject of sex tapes is a whole new can of worms.
By the way, didn't Melania Trump foray into the exploitation arena--self, or otherwise?

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
51. Dammit!
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:49 PM
Sep 2016

I thought there was a sex tape of DONALD TRUMP for a minute. Talk about something you would never be able to unsee....

radius777

(3,635 posts)
60. Irrelevant. The issue is that of a nasty older person bullying a younger one.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:54 PM
Sep 2016

Trump is a powerful old man who bullied and humiliated a younger, vulnerable person, who went on to have emotional/mental issues as a result.

Machado is a sexy model/actress/singer so of course she's done some softcore shoots (Playboy, Maxim) like every other actress out there that wants to advance their career/brand. That's just good business. She may or may not have done an amateur porn tape, good for her. Porn is a mainstream thing, especially amongst the younger generations.

This line of attack is going to backfire bigly on Trump/GOP, because it is simply more sexist bullying on his part, which will further drive away women, independent and millennial voters.

lillypaddle

(9,581 posts)
61. She didn't. But SO FUCKING what if she did?????
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:59 PM
Sep 2016

This is coming from a man who inappropriately grabs his daughter's butt/hip.

But even that is beside the point. Fucking hypocritical chauvinistic piece of shit.

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