2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumsomeone will have to explain to me how Trump even has 10% of the female vote
I am a middle aged white male.
That puts me firmly in the Trump demographic.
But I can't stand the man. I have daughters. i have a wife. I have a mother. I am reasonably sane.
But what I cannot figure out is how Donald Trump has the support of even a single female in this country. It makes no sense.
how much does he have to belittle and hate women before 40% of them stop supporting him?
who ARE these women? I certainly don't know any of them.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,270 posts)I can't figure it out, either.
Siwsan
(27,891 posts)uponit7771
(93,532 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)rumdude
(448 posts)They're surrounded by people who support Trump. It's cultural.
Skoods
(341 posts)Pretty amazing how delusional they are.
Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)liberal N proud
(61,203 posts)This gave me a laugh in the worst week in my life.
Pat Robertson: Husbands Need To Boycott Intercourse With Their Wives If Theyre Planning To Vote For Hillary
http://politicops.com/pat-robertson-husbands-need-boycott-intercourse-wives-theyre-planning-vote-hillary/
katmondoo
(6,524 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)would punch my 6'1" husband at my arm's level (hint) if he EVER tried to tell or coerce me into voting for HIS Republican choice. He knows better since we have been married for 40 years.
Thrill
(19,342 posts).
BSdetect
(9,048 posts)Other than that remote chance its probably a combination of ignorance, racism and stupidity.
MANative
(4,188 posts)First - racist people.
Second - females in evangelical strongholds. Most evangelicals I've known have a very strong bias toward male dominance and female subservience. In some families that I've encountered, the women are told exactly whom to vote for, and they obey. And that term is central to their existence.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)GoCubsGo
(35,000 posts)I live in an evangelical stronghold. Both possibilities are correct. I will also add succumbing to all the fear-mongering is not gender specific. Women can be ignorant bed-wetters, too. They are also just as susceptible to the lies their party has been spewing for decades.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Hate women haters and shamers...
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)maryellen99
(3,798 posts)And they think Trump is the real life version
nolabear
(43,850 posts)I read the first book out of a sense of horrified duty to writing. I just couldn't go on, but the hint was that Grey was a very damaged individual and did what he did as an attempt to gain control over some deeply helpless feelings. Trump is Trump for a reason. If he wasn't so horrifying and in a position to really hurt people I might feel sorry for him. Given how he's turned out, I don't.
maryellen99
(3,798 posts)Everything he has done comes to light.
Mamajami
(257 posts)BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)That's Trump's female support.
nolabear
(43,850 posts)Sadly, some women use men's disdain for women and their own success with them to believe they're superior, exceptional, not like those who are being diminished. It hits them hard if they find out they're being used in exactly the same way the others were, but they can be in survival mode and then believe they're superior for having survived the abuse, "not like those victims." Women aren't immune to the need for superiority rather than unity, sadly, but that weird social construct where they attain that by their attractiveness to men can get a strong grip on some of them.
Starry Messenger
(32,382 posts)I saw one interview with Sam Bee, where the woman said it would be worth her making less at her job if the country would be secure if Trump wins. She even seemed like a nice girl, but I don't even know where to start. People are just freaked out and very xenophobic. Even women.
Maeve
(43,489 posts)Damn, these people scare me more than an ISIL or other Muslim boogieman they conjure up!
Stupid runs deep.
Starry Messenger
(32,382 posts)Kathy M
(1,242 posts)With that said I know Three . One claims she is voting Johnson, at same time has been life long republican . Two females are very , very religious could cross to the extreme at least for me , their vote is going for the supreme court looking more at Pence than Don. One is a military wife .
The third female I know that will not vote Hillary does not want to see Clinton s back in the White House , she is the life long republican.
If I could risk pulling my hair out after talking with them about election I would , it 's not going to change their vote at all though ......... I end up frustrated .
Better to outnumber Don and his group with our votes than to sway some of the personalities / beliefs ( for a lack of a better word ) that are out there ....
Local , state , Congress election matter also esp after hearing the one lady talk about the Supreme Court and hoping for a conservative judge .........
spooky3
(38,864 posts)patriarchical/authoritarian cultural values; (c) religious fundy nuttiness; (d) .001% club membership; (e) ignorance and stupidity.
uponit7771
(93,532 posts)... tRump and his stupid more than smart and family influence.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Said she didn't care what he sad about women, she just wants her tax cut.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bmstee01
(453 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And 2) have an active dislike for feminists, but is one of those crackpots who is anti-everything, and Sanders is the on exception we can find to that.
Neither will vote for Trump, but they have this thing that his sexism is no big deal and women should put on their big girl panties. Ugh.
I know the one dating the (emotionally) abusive guy is susceptible to gas lighting- blaming the women for his cheating and I'm writing it off as Stockholm syndrome.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)Ask them if they have 30 seconds to listen to Donald J. tRump. Show them the Mirrors ad.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)In the most humiliating way of course, once again.
Right now she is unreachable, and I can't do anything that might make her feel isolated when it ends again. She sort of lashed out and insulted me for being obsessive about politics on FB. (I get that she doesn't see the dozens of friends I have that are also posting about politics this week) so I asked if it was connected to him because he has lashed out to me rudely and stormed out once and also needles her that I'm a radical feminist or whatever. She denied it but I'm pretty sure it's a big part of it. He's sticking up for a sexist piece of shit and unmasking himself in the process and I get the grief.
She is apathetic politically and I think he's trying to turn her just for kicks. He manipulates her with his cranky moods and it's getting tiresome. When she lashed out at me I was like WTF girl, I don't bring up politics to you- he does. I avoid talking politics to people who can't discuss issues in depth and without rancor. I feel sorry for her but can't do anything until she wants to. Bummed.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And it really hurt her that her family and mutual friends knew- because it ruined a weekend she was super excited about. He invited another girl he'd been screwing around with too- exactly what Don did to his first wife in Aspen.
I talked to her about how we all loved her and is knowing wasn't the big deal- her being treated like shit was. She should be mad he did that and not focus on how it was done. But the humiliation thing is powerful I think, she is loathe to admit it when things get bad. I think it's actually turning her against Hilary a bit, because she can't admit to herself what a shit he is. Trump has sort of become symbolic in their relationship.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Alienate her. I hope I am setting a good example by not blowing off the issue. She is a tough girl but not when it comes to him.
Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)This is why:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512459527
It's amazing.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)But al they would say is " she lies too". They're baked in haters.
GoCubsGo
(35,000 posts)Just sayin'.
Wounded Bear
(64,637 posts)but then again, I can't understand why any woman would be a Republican, either.
Neither idea makes any sense to me at all.
Silent3
(15,909 posts)
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