2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHere is the message: "Trump was a business FAILURE in the BOOMING 90's. Then he became a LEACH."
Tell people, "How the hell does a guy lose nearly a billion dollars in the 90's? Those were boom times. The economy was humming in 1995. And then he goes on the government tax dole, declares this nearly billion dollar loss on his tax returns, and gets to avoid federal taxes for 18 years while the rest of us paid our taxes. He has declared bankruptcy five times, and he has stiffed people whom he owed money more times than you can imagine. And he talks about bad trade deals but happily makes his ties, shirts, and furniture in China, Mexico, and Bangladesh. Donald Trump is a FRAUD and CON MAN, and a blind person can see it."
Bucky
(53,947 posts)Honestly, the attacks almost write themselves
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)My God, even the Bushes are voting for HRC. Oh he will get some votes from his redneck hate supporters, but his brand is very tarnished now. Many people will avoid is hotels and golf courses, his shirts and ties, etc. Worse than being despised, he will be ridiculed and the butt of jokes for years to come.
global1
(25,225 posts)he'll probably become a bigger leach.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,961 posts)GaYellowDawg
(4,446 posts)nm
uponit7771
(90,302 posts)... empirically.
I think the message needs to be America Can't Do Business With Trump
duncang
(1,907 posts)#deadbeatdon loses 915 billion after shafting contractors out of payments?
#deadbeatdon policy proposals would even give him more tax deductions. Not fixing anything with the tax code.
#deadbeatdon wants to make you pay your taxes while he pays none.
#deadbeatdon lost money when the economy was rising. Doesn't sound like a genius.
#deadbeatdon berated low income people for not paying taxes. But he thinks it's great for him not to.
#deadbeatdon said it was a problem that around 50% of U.S. citizens don't pay taxes. But he paid none.
#deadbeatdon has a investment scheme lose 915 million then make the average American pay for his stupid mistakes.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)cynzke
(1,254 posts)Recouped some of that loss years later when the recession hit. Trump and brood gleefully fed on the misfortune of others who were destroyed by the real estate market bubble burst. Trump brags about this. If elected, our national emblem, the eagle, should be replaced by the VULTURE! Considering the way things are in this country it should be NOW.
klook
(12,152 posts)He freeloads on the success of others and then turns around and screws honest hard-working people. Trump is the worst America has to offer.
mdbl
(4,973 posts)Are these morons calling him a genius insane?
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,167 posts)central scrutinizer
(11,637 posts)Although leach, a verb, could also be used to describe his business practices
Yonnie3
(17,421 posts)Some of his supporters have the intellect of a flea. My apologies to fleas if I have offended you.
I'm wondering how he had a billion to lose. If it came from daddy, was gift or income tax paid on that billion? If he made it in prior years, was income tax paid on it?
brush
(53,743 posts)which says all that needs to said about his business acumen.
HE LOST MONEY RUNNING CASINOS! The odds are stacked in favor of the house, how do you lose money running a casino?
@Not a genius.
Yonnie3
(17,421 posts)I had forgotten about that.
Trump as a business man - failure
Trump as a husband - failure
Trump as a philanthropist - failure
Trump as a _________ - failure
Let's fill in that blank with the word candidate on November 8th.
gopiscrap
(23,726 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,058 posts)Corporate Casino Welfare
The Trump Corporate Welfare Empire
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,961 posts)lastlib
(23,159 posts)Yes--this is the message! The man is a financial vampire, existing solely to suck the blood out of us any way he can.
Cary
(11,746 posts)droidamus2
(1,699 posts)So this is how you become a 'great businessman'.
1. Borrow a boatload of money from banks and investors. If you can get away with it don't use much of your own money.
2. Build some businesses but do a crappy job of running them, even in good economic times
3. Take as much money out of the businesses for yourself before they start to fail.
4. Shortchange those that do work or provide services to you and still generate almost a billion in losses.
5. File for bankruptcy.
6. Declare the losses to protect you from federal income taxes for a couple of decades even though in the end you personally have
net a great deal of money from the process.
Some would say, 'hey great idea I don't have to pay my debts and I don't have to pay taxes and I walk away with the money'. I say the person is an incompetent businessman and is just lucky that the tax codes were written to benefit his type of wealthy con man.
How about we change the rules so that if your company declares bankruptcy and has losses that can be written off on income taxes those tax right offs go to the creditors that will not get paid instead of the incompetent that caused the losses in the first place.
NBachers
(17,081 posts)Justice
(7,185 posts)By 1995 worst of it behind us.