Obama ready to sell us down the river?

[AAO]

Last edited Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:01 AM - Edit history (2)

It appears that he was. Let's hope he's changed his thinking! If this has been discussed on DU previously, I missed it:

http://presspass.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/11/15089281-white-house-grand-bargain-offer-to-speaker-boehner-obtained-by-bob-woodward
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/12/1160891/-Leaked-deal-memo-from-grand-bargain-talks-show-threat-to-Social-Security-Medicare-safety-net
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/13/1160951/-Tricare-the-sacred-health-insurance-program-for-the-military
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-09/obama-boehner-2011-near-deal-give-blueprint-for-debt-deal.html

[Indpndnt]

1. I wouldn't believe Bob Woodward if he told me rain was wet.

I read that name and stopped there.

[satxdem]

7. lol.

I know. My thoughts exactly.

[Thrill]

2. Woodward is a trouble making Chump

[notadmblnd]

3. A year ago July? I think things have changed a bit since then.

[AAO]

4. I hope you are right. The idea that the White House produced this document (if true) enrages me.

[notadmblnd]

8. I googled it and found no reference to it at all

Who is this Nabors person and do you have a link to the document? I don't see anything that says it is from the White House.

[AAO]

11. You know, I really don't know who he is, but D-Kos has the same story:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/13/1161037/--The-History-We-Didn-t-Know-About-Last-Year-s-Grand-Bargain-Negotiations

[Jennicut]

21. Probably Rob Nabors.

Director of Legislative Affairs. Works with Congress on legislative issues.

[nichomachus]

5. Woodward is CIA -- nuff said

[AAO]

6. Everyone seems pretty dismissive of this.

I'm not going to comment anymore on this, but I am bookmarking it.

[John2]

10. That

document is old, which Bob Woodward is going around trying to torpedo the President with before he was re-elected and had a weaker position. People like you are who he is trying to get attention from to cause trouble. Woodward is a snake and irrelevant. That document has nothing to do with what is going on now. This guy is very transparent.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

22. The fax to Woodward is dated 11/9/2012...

AFTER the election. Read the fine print.

[Cha]

9. Bob Fucking Woodward.. Asshole.

[progressivebydesign]

12. Wow. the assholes really come out of the woodwork after the elections.

i'm reminded why I dislike DU so much. Get out of your little thought experiment, and into the real world. Geez.

[Xyzse]

13. July 19, 2011 Draft... That thing is Over a YEAR Old

I can't really put much credence on that since it is too outdated.

[EC]

14. Yeah,

you missed it. It has been discussed here.

[alcibiades_mystery]

15. Fine: Don't vote for him again

AAAAAH Shit, kid!

[One of the 99]

16. Woodward still blames the President...

for blowing up the negotiations, claiming that the President wouldn't compromise enough.

Guess lifelong Republican Woodward is not only living in the bubble but like FAUX news is creating it.”

[democrattotheend]

17. Maybe he was then, but it doesn't look like he is now

Re-election has emboldened him, and he is in a very different place than he was last July, when he faced the prospect of an already weak economy sliding back on his watch a year before the election. He had a gun to his head then that he doesn't have now. All indications so far are that he intends to stand his ground. Inevitably, he will have to compromise at some point, but it looks like he has learned his lesson about starting out from a compromise position.

[AAO]

18. Thank you for one of the few civil responses.

Now I must go sleepy-pie.

[busterbrown]

19. Really!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/13/obama-bush-tax-cuts_n_2124324.html

[ieoeja]

20. Make Bush tax cuts permanent, lower corporate tax rates, eliminate AMT, keep military spending, etc.

There is no way this can be true. While I view Obama as a horrid bargainer, he does not even offer a bargain in this. I can not find a single thing in there that varies 0.00000000000000001% from the Republican stance.

Actually, it probably is true. It is probably a "Grand Bargain" plan written by the Republicans and delivered to the Obama administration. That would actually make sense.