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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMike Pence To America: Trump Never Said Those Things He Said. Huffington Post
FARMVILLE, Va. ― Donald Trumps running mate, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R), spent much of the first and only vice presidential debate Tuesday night doing his damnedest to get Americans to forget all of the offensive things Trump has said.
Pence repeatedly tried to skirt around statements Trump actually said or simply shook his head and ignored the question.
Im happy to defend [Trump], Pence said.
But Pence rarely actually defended Trump. Instead, he dodged or outright denied his running mates statements. Some examples:
RUSSIA
When Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), Hillary Clintons running mate, accused Trump of praising Russian president Vladimir Putin as a great leader, Pence denied it and called Putin a small and bullying leader. But Trump has repeatedly praised Putin.
When Kaine said that Trump recently claimed Putin was not going into Ukraine, Pence denied it. But Trump did say, Hes not going into Ukraine, OK, just so you understand. Hes not going to go into Ukraine, all right? You can mark it down. You can put it down. You can take it anywhere you want. Putin took the Crimean Peninsula from Ukraine in 2014.
Pence himself also recently said, I think its inarguable that Vladimir Putin has been a stronger leader in his country than Barack Obama has been in this country.
NUCLEAR WEAPONS
When Kaine challenged Pence to defend Trumps comment that more nations should get nuclear weapons, Pence said he never said that. But Trump did.
TAXES
When Kaine pointed out that Trump had once promised to release his tax returns, Pence replied, He said he will do it. Trump has repeatedly said he cant release his returns because he is being audited by the IRS. (The IRS has said nothing prevents him from releasing them.) There is absolutely no evidence that Trump will actually release his returns. His son, Donald Trump Jr., has admitted that theres a more political reason the campaign is not releasing the returns: It would be a distraction and create too many questions.
IMMIGRATION
Kaine said Trump wants to have a deportation force: They want to go house to house, school to school, business to business, and kick out 16 million people. Pence called Kaines statement nonsense. Last year, Trump himself used the term deportation force in an interview with MSNBCs Morning Joe: Youre going to have a deportation force, and youre going to do it humanely. And youre going to bring the country and frankly, the people, because you have some excellent wonderful people, some fantastic people that have been here for a long period of time.
MEXICANS
Pence tried to defend Trumps comments about Mexicans after Kaine pointed out that the GOP presidential candidate has called immigrants from the country rapists.
He also said, many of them are good people, Pence replied.
Trumps actual quote last year was: When Mexico sends its people theyre not sending their best. Theyre bringing drugs, theyre bringing crime, theyre rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.
ABORTION
When Kaine said that Trump had said women should be punished for abortion, Pence said, Donald Trump and I would never support legislation that punished women who made the heartbreaking choice to end a pregnancy. But Trump did say that women who have abortions should be punished.
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Immediately after the debate, GOP operatives piled into the spin room and dismissed the idea that Pence had dodged any topic.
more plus video: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pence-kaine-debate-vice-president_us_57f3b692e4b0d0e1a9a9a98b
Pence repeatedly tried to skirt around statements Trump actually said or simply shook his head and ignored the question.
Im happy to defend [Trump], Pence said.
But Pence rarely actually defended Trump. Instead, he dodged or outright denied his running mates statements. Some examples:
RUSSIA
When Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), Hillary Clintons running mate, accused Trump of praising Russian president Vladimir Putin as a great leader, Pence denied it and called Putin a small and bullying leader. But Trump has repeatedly praised Putin.
When Kaine said that Trump recently claimed Putin was not going into Ukraine, Pence denied it. But Trump did say, Hes not going into Ukraine, OK, just so you understand. Hes not going to go into Ukraine, all right? You can mark it down. You can put it down. You can take it anywhere you want. Putin took the Crimean Peninsula from Ukraine in 2014.
Pence himself also recently said, I think its inarguable that Vladimir Putin has been a stronger leader in his country than Barack Obama has been in this country.
NUCLEAR WEAPONS
When Kaine challenged Pence to defend Trumps comment that more nations should get nuclear weapons, Pence said he never said that. But Trump did.
TAXES
When Kaine pointed out that Trump had once promised to release his tax returns, Pence replied, He said he will do it. Trump has repeatedly said he cant release his returns because he is being audited by the IRS. (The IRS has said nothing prevents him from releasing them.) There is absolutely no evidence that Trump will actually release his returns. His son, Donald Trump Jr., has admitted that theres a more political reason the campaign is not releasing the returns: It would be a distraction and create too many questions.
IMMIGRATION
Kaine said Trump wants to have a deportation force: They want to go house to house, school to school, business to business, and kick out 16 million people. Pence called Kaines statement nonsense. Last year, Trump himself used the term deportation force in an interview with MSNBCs Morning Joe: Youre going to have a deportation force, and youre going to do it humanely. And youre going to bring the country and frankly, the people, because you have some excellent wonderful people, some fantastic people that have been here for a long period of time.
MEXICANS
Pence tried to defend Trumps comments about Mexicans after Kaine pointed out that the GOP presidential candidate has called immigrants from the country rapists.
He also said, many of them are good people, Pence replied.
Trumps actual quote last year was: When Mexico sends its people theyre not sending their best. Theyre bringing drugs, theyre bringing crime, theyre rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.
ABORTION
When Kaine said that Trump had said women should be punished for abortion, Pence said, Donald Trump and I would never support legislation that punished women who made the heartbreaking choice to end a pregnancy. But Trump did say that women who have abortions should be punished.
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Immediately after the debate, GOP operatives piled into the spin room and dismissed the idea that Pence had dodged any topic.
more plus video: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/pence-kaine-debate-vice-president_us_57f3b692e4b0d0e1a9a9a98b
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Mike Pence To America: Trump Never Said Those Things He Said. Huffington Post (Original Post)
Madam45for2923
Oct 2016
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Beartracks
(13,462 posts)1. And the one time he DID admit that maybe Trump said some things...
... (I think it was in regards to punishment for abortions), Pence noted that Trump is, er, not a polished politician like you and Hillary Clinton."
Love that Kaine responded by quoting Luke 6:45: out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.
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