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Win a debate = Stay calm while you lie, lie & lie! EASY PEASY! (Original Post) Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 OP
I see some articles today mentioning "Pence 2020," and I have to laugh. BobbyDrake Oct 2016 #1
We need to crush both of the GOP ticket's reputations so they don't dare Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #2
Yeah, that's a bit frustrating... Adrahil Oct 2016 #3
Very good! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #4
The debate is won in the post debate week. Blue Idaho Oct 2016 #5
Very true. hamsterjill Oct 2016 #6
 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
1. I see some articles today mentioning "Pence 2020," and I have to laugh.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 11:08 AM
Oct 2016

Pence is barred by Indiana law from running for re-election and VP at the same time. So he gave up his highest office for this Trump campaign. That means when he loses, which seems to be the prevailing narrative, he's going to have to figure out how to stay in the public eye as a private citizen for 4 years. Maybe possible, if his national profile was bigger than "running mate to the biggest jackass to ever run for president.

Unfortunately for him, it's not. And if his Trump support wouldn't destroy him, his own record as a Christian Taliban governor would still be sufficient.

 

Madam45for2923

(7,178 posts)
2. We need to crush both of the GOP ticket's reputations so they don't dare
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 11:12 AM
Oct 2016

show up ever again for any future elections!

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
3. Yeah, that's a bit frustrating...
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 11:21 AM
Oct 2016

But today, there seems to be a lot of folks calling Pence on:

1) Refusing to defend Trump
and
2) Telling many flat-out falsehoods.

Blue Idaho

(5,491 posts)
5. The debate is won in the post debate week.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 11:32 AM
Oct 2016

It's not the debate, it's what gets said about the debate in the following days. We are starting to see fact checking showing Pence as a serial liar. The campaign ads are writing themselves. I think that by the end of the week any sense that Pence won will be washed away by the sheer volume of certified lies and denials of fact that were the core of Pence's debate performance.

hamsterjill

(15,441 posts)
6. Very true.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 11:34 AM
Oct 2016

The Republican extremist base doesn't care anything about facts and/or truth. All they care about is that Pence talked about the "sin" of abortion. Doesn't matter that Pence lied when he said that Donald did not say he would punish women.

I think that the comments that Pence made last night on the subject of choice will, however, backfire as to any undecided voters where choice is important. Pence made his stance of extremism on that subject well understood last night, and I think his stance will offend a lot of rational, thinking people.

That's really what this election is about at this point. The rational, thinking people have GOT to get to the voting booths and vote to outnumber the crazies.

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