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BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 06:28 PM Oct 2016

How is giving in to the "style" idea wise?

Just ignore their claim that Pence won on style. Call it for what it is. Its pure spin.

And it's not true. Shaking your head is not an indicator of style.

And any style display is not a valid debate winner.





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How is giving in to the "style" idea wise? (Original Post) BSdetect Oct 2016 OP
The gish gallop was the style. PeteSelman Oct 2016 #1
or the idea that it matters more than substance treestar Oct 2016 #2
I look at it this way. lovemydog Oct 2016 #3
Good thing MSM doesn't rank football teams AmericanMan1958 Oct 2016 #4
Haha! I should tell my friends that The Jets lovemydog Oct 2016 #5
Every other word out of his mouth was a lie, and he couldn't defend anything Trump has said. baldguy Oct 2016 #6
Pence is a fake that is what they call style I guess. nt Demsrule86 Oct 2016 #7

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
1. The gish gallop was the style.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 06:37 PM
Oct 2016

It's a debate method and he used it very well. It doesn't matter whether or not what you say is true it's how you say it. You have to look like you know what you're talking about and he did that. It's also being able to deflect what your opponent is talking about and talk about what you want to talk about. That's what he did, that's what Romney did in his first debate against the President in 2012. By that measure, Pence won.

Most people aren't going to remember what was said, they'll remember who said it and how. If they remember at all. Vice presidential debates aren't generally held in that high of regard.

What happens on Sunday is going to matter 10 times more.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
2. or the idea that it matters more than substance
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 06:38 PM
Oct 2016

people don't trust the other voters and assume they are stupid. Like they watched the debate and were lulled by "style" into voting for Trump. Who is that dumb?

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
3. I look at it this way.
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 06:42 PM
Oct 2016

I vote on substance. Actual policies regarding what I think is best for the American people. If my candidate wins on style, then great. If they don't, I really don't care too much.

If my candidate wins on substance and style, I'll still vote for my candidate.

If my candidate wins on substance and loses on style, I'll still vote for my candidate.

If my candidate loses on substance and wins on style, I'll consider voting for the other candidate.

If my candidate loses on substance and loses on style, I'll consider voting for the other candidate.

There's an old saying in law: if you're winning on facts but not the law, argue the facts. If you're winning on the law but not the facts, argue the law. If you're winning on both the law and the facts, unless you screw it up big time you'll win. If you're losing on both the facts and law, your case stinks and you'll have to find some other extraordinary way to win. I think Trump / Pence lose on substance and in the case of Trump on style too. Their policies stink to high heaven.

AmericanMan1958

(520 posts)
4. Good thing MSM doesn't rank football teams
Wed Oct 5, 2016, 06:56 PM
Oct 2016

Team loses 32-6 but they won because the team had such "STYLE."
I call Bull Sh*t!!!!

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
5. Haha! I should tell my friends that The Jets
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 05:19 AM
Oct 2016

may be 1-3 but I like their uniforms so they're the best team in the NFL.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
6. Every other word out of his mouth was a lie, and he couldn't defend anything Trump has said.
Thu Oct 6, 2016, 08:00 AM
Oct 2016
BUT HE DID IT WITH STYLE!
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