2016 Postmortem
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(3,179 posts)McCain is a shrunken and bitter little old man desperately trying to remain relevant.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Avalux
(35,015 posts)ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)SheilaT
(23,156 posts)They are both assholes. It is totally irrelevant if one is a bigger one than the other.
dchill
(38,484 posts)McCain just forgot how to act like a reasonable moderate. Plus, he cannot get over being soundly beaten by "That one!"
NC_Nurse
(11,646 posts)Mothdust
(133 posts)As an elected official, yet is fucking over the best interests of the nation.
larkrake
(1,674 posts)Diclotican
(5,095 posts)world wide wally
I think both them is big assholes to be honest... Even though I suspect Romney to be the biggest of them
Diclotican
Arneoker
(375 posts)McCain has actually behaved with honor at times. Romney...I mean does it have to be said?
Azathoth
(4,608 posts)No principles, no values, no beliefs, no honor, no creativity, no empathy or ability to relate to other human beings, no interest in producing or accomplishing anything that does not put more money in his pocket. Just a walking embodiment of white hot, sociopathic greed. The only good thing I can say about Romney is that he doesn't beat his wife, and that's only because it doesn't generate a profit.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)of sociopathic obnoxious out of touch idiots.
Carolina
(6,960 posts)full of shit
Ivywoods55
(131 posts)another? Both men are snakes, but the thing is McCain has packaged his evil,bitter self in the national "i am a war hero" meme, while Romney has used his persona to sell himself, to the hate-filled republicans as someone that can save them from the evil, socialist that is President Obama. Both men are hate filled racist and bigots...and yes, I said BOTH.
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)McCain accepted defeat better.
IdaBriggs
(10,559 posts)Before Bush Junior smeared him as mentally ill (back in 2000), and then tried to have him killed while he was fishing in Florida, I think McCain was one of the "principled Republicans" - the ones who had a different point of view, but still did what was best for the country, including working across the aisle.
McCain got squashed by the Rove Republicans. He continues to serve his country in the Senate. I think he should be grateful he didn't win in 2008, because he would be dead now with Palin in place as the Figurehead (while the puppet masters continue to drain the national treasury dry behind the scenes).
He dances with the puppet people (all Republicans at his level do) and he and Graham-Crackers are the back-ups who are now being deployed. If Obama is smart, he will cut the strings, and go after the people who were pulling them.
In my fantasy world, I think McCain has been doing his best to protect America from the Puppet Masters, but I could be wrong.
Romney's agenda does not include "service to America" in quite the same way; I think he truly believes some of what he says, but his loyalty is to the Puppeteers as he fancies himself to be one of them.
President Obama won; they didn't expect that - if he believes in the honor of the Republicans, he is a fool.
I don't think he is a fool.
GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)He is a republican who occasional shows some principles. But, those times are few and far between. And, as time goes on, those periods become even farther between. He has gotten even more partisan and nasty with age. He is an asshole far more often than he is a decent person. Romney, on the other hand, is ALL asshole.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Romney
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(6,286 posts)Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)At one time Mccain was actually respectable. His correcting of a old RW loon at a rally comes to mind. But recently his mind has been clouded with resentment towards PO plus he has to swing harder to the right to avoid being primaried. Romney is a habitual liar, you can even guess when he's going to lie next. His 47% remark and his remarks yesterday paints a very clear picture of him imo. He also refused to correct the RW nuts in his party which shows a lack of character.
barnabas63
(1,214 posts)MightyAfrodite
(157 posts)sadbear
(4,340 posts)Because they both are, depending on how you measure it.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)They are tied. Its impossible to predict.
I think McCain might win because he's still in office and so he'll have easier access to a microphone.
malexand
(59 posts)Minutes ago I sent the following email to both Senators McCain and Graham, which all of us can easily do on any topic at www.senate.gov (or to members of the House at www.house.gov/):
"You may find the following three simple bits of common advice helpful in your day-to-day activities and which will also undoubtedly enhance your reputation and legacy:
1) Use and remember the 'Thumperian Principle' which most of us learned early in life:
'If you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all.'
2) 'It really doesn't cost anything to be nice, and the rewards can be unimaginable.' - Paul 'Bear' Bryant
3) 'You get more with honey than vinegar.' - Anonymous"
While we should pay attention and not ignore "the haters," perhaps we should spend more time thinking of how we can help and support President Obama and other Democratic leaders with all the problems facing the U.S. and the world (rather than spewing more hate).
But also leave a couple of moments to gloat in our wonderful victory on November 6th:
Filibuster Harry
(666 posts)I don't know who's the bigger one but i can tell you I used to have respect for McCain but that went out the window years ago. He hasn't gotten over the loss 4 years ago but yet he supported W. even after those
blatant attacks stating McCain fathered a black child back in the 2000 primary. (he adopted her).
As for Mitt, I never had any respect for him to begin with. He would say anything to anyone to get their vote.
Isn't that considered as gift giving?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)MurrayDelph
(5,294 posts)Romney lost 9 days ago.
McCain lost 1472 days ago, and still hasn't gotten over "that one" beating him.
treestar
(82,383 posts)McDope at least served his country and was a POW as a result. R$ went to France.
McDope at least served in the Senate for decades and was a maverick at times. R$ was a one term governor.
McDope had the basic honor to call out racist birthers and say that Obama was born in the US and that he was a basically good guy.
R$ lied and lied and lied.
faithfulcitizen
(3,191 posts)McCain has had many more years to get over his bitter loss... Besides, Romney who?
ncteechur
(3,071 posts)world wide wally
(21,742 posts)All of the above
ffr
(22,669 posts)It's a race to the bottom of who can prove themselves as the loudest idiot.