2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWith Epic Tweet storm, Wisconsin woman/activist departs Republican Party
https://twitter.com/MBGlenn Mild mannered caffeinated bookworm ....When I saw Republican men getting attacked I stood up for them. I came to their defense. I fought on their behalf. 2/
I fought on behalf of a movement I believed in. I fought on behalf of my principles while other women told me I hated my own sex. 3/
Not only charges of sexism, but I defended @marcorubio during Go8, I fought in my state to stop the @ScottWalker recall, etc...
Now some Trojan horse nationalist sexual predator invades the @GOP, eating it alive, and you cowards sit this one out? 5/
He treats women like dogs, and you go against everything I and other female conservatives said you were & back down like cowards. 6/
Get this straight: We dont need you to stand up for us, YOU needed to stand up for us for YOU. For YOUR dignity. For YOUR reputation. 7/
Jeff Sessions says that he wouldnt characterize Trumps unauthorized groping of women as assault. Are you kidding me?! 8/
Others try to rebuke his comments, yet STILL choose to vote for a sexual predator - because lets be honest, thats what he is. 9/
"What he said is wrong, and the way he treats women is wrong, but its not wrong enough for me to not vote for him." Thanks, cowards. 10/
Various men in the movement are writing it off as normal, confirming every stereotype the left has thrown at them. So I'm done. 11/
I'm sooo done. If you cant stand up for women & unendorse this piece of human garbage, you deserve every charge of sexism thrown at you. 12/
Im just one woman, you wont even notice my lack of presence at rallies, fair booths, etc., You wont really care that Im offended 13/
by your silence, and your inability to take a stand. But one by one youll watch more women like me go, & youll watch men of 14/
ACTUAL character follow us out the door. And what youll be left with are the corrupt masses that foam at the mouth every time you step 15/
Outside the lines. Men who truly see women as lesser beings, & women without self-respect. & your guiding faith & "principles" will be 16/
Attached to them as well. And when its all said and done, all youll have left is the party The Left always accused you of being. Scum. 17/
CC: @SpeakerRyan @tedcruz @marcorubio @SpeakerRyan @Reince And every other tool refusing to unendorse this monster. 17/X

whatthehey
(3,660 posts)It should be quite a common sentiment.
Beartracks
(14,591 posts)==============
sofa king
(10,857 posts)I think someone needs to drop a robo-auto-tune on it. Internets, please make it so!
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)An acquaintance of mine who has ALWAYS voted GOP told me she's out. Not only will she not vote for Trump, but she is voting for HRC. And further, she is NOT voting for GOP candidates down ballot (like this woman, she calls them "cowards"
, though she is not yet ready to say she is voting Dem down-ballot yet.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)Baby steps.
BSdetect
(9,048 posts)But will she vote HRC?
Or did I miss that?
radical noodle
(10,595 posts)spooky3
(38,632 posts)The Wielding Truth
(11,433 posts)freedoms from sexual minorities and the budget cuts that forced the states to hurt social programs and the no support of better health care programs. The loss of good paying jobs to maintain the middle class and the funneling of almost all profits to the very top.
Finally, it came down to her being personally hurt. Now she sees the greed and the selfishness of her party.
It amazes me.
spooky3
(38,632 posts)And they think everyone is the same way.
The Wielding Truth
(11,433 posts)spooky3
(38,632 posts)The Wielding Truth
(11,433 posts)wife syndrome or the narrow mind of an all-in cult member.
Fed lies with fear, it seems that some people will suspend logic and the search for substantiated factual proof and follow the most charismatic seemly protective figure.
Using half their reasoning power they are happy and enthusiastic to follow the one who represents a savior. Being blind to his actions and words they fall behind him as if he were a shield .He keeps telling them that he alone will save them and the danger is too great for them to handle and the enemy is so formidable that only he has the power the knowledge to save them. This reinforces there insecurity and they so as he suggests.
Will they see before it's too late that we are stronger together using all our different plausible solutions and finding the best one that works? That we can better face any foe with truth and the understanding supported by proven facts?
WE all must talk, call, write and show them the truth.
We are not afraid of truths. Hillary is our choice because we have weighed them and she is a much better.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)One person is steeped in music, another in politics, another in religion. Patriarchy is cultural and imposes beliefs, attitudes, behaviors. Conservatism likewise is cultural and more a belief system than intellectual, imposing on the individual rather than liberating them from cultural habits. Small towns still have cultural traits of their immigrant settlers. Some people get stuck in a culture, others are cultural window shoppers, looking for better ideas all the time. Consider in your own life the process of maturation and how you changed over time, and especially why, when, what triggered the changes. Were you ever stuck in some way without realizing there was another option? Cultural impositions do that, and some cultural environments are more restrictive than others, religions for example.
The Wielding Truth
(11,433 posts)Yes. Cultural. This Conservative mind set has been cultivated. It appeals to fear and greed and it is held into place with home spun religious doctrine.
You have clearly explained what I have always found unreachable to understand.
Cha
(319,067 posts)even if not so much walker.
Nothing like a republicon woman in politics bringing this front and center!
Now some Trojan horse nationalist sexual predator invades the @GOP, eating it alive, and you cowards sit this one out? 5/
Jeff Sessions says that he wouldnt characterize Trumps unauthorized groping of women as assault. Are you kidding me?! 8/
Thank you, Coyotl
Johnny2X2X
(24,207 posts)An old woman was walking down the road when she saw a gang of thugs beating a poisonous snake. She rescued the snake and carried it back to her home, where she nursed it back to health. They became friends and lived together for many months. One day they were going into town, and the old woman picked him up and the snake bit her. Repeatedly. "O God," she screamed, "I am dying! Why? I was your friend. I saved your life! I trusted you! Why did you bite me?"
The snake looked up at her and said, "Lady, you knew I was a snake when you first picked me up."
As if Trump's tape was the last straw for any thinking human being. The republican Party is Donald Trump and has been for decades. Women are second class citizens to Republicans, little more than a man's property. If they thought they could get away with it women wouldn't be allowed to vote.
Give me a break, the GOP has been assaulting and attacking women for decades. These tweets make me furious! When you signed up for the Republican Party you signed up to support rape, you signed up against equal pay for women, you signed up to agree that men should control women's bodies, you agreed that women are less than men, you signed up in defense of spousal abusers, you agreed that women beaters should be given guns, you threw your lot in against women's health care, against paid time off for birth, against child care for working women, and you've agreed that women shouldn't serve in the military. Everything about that disgusting party has reflected Trump and his disgusting treatment of women for decades. And now this has crossed the line for you?
If this is a real tweet storm describing a real change of heart, great, welcome to the fight. But this person has many many years to make up for, get to work.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)So, she's just pissed off (finally) but hasn't changed, hasn't had an evolutionary moment.
Grins
(9,459 posts)I so-agree. No. Sympathy.
I have been keeping a small record of sins the GOP have done as part of their "War on Women" for quite a while. (I just looked and my first entry is from 2006.) And it is only now that this woman's eyes are opened? Because of Trump?
Vaginal ultra sounds?
HUNDREDS of bills legislating women's health and reproduction?
Endless assaults on Planned Parenthood that are not only fiscal, but physical, often by armed 'Christians" and deadly?
Attacking the wives of those who died on 911 as gold-diggers?
That women should be FORCED to watch an abortion before getting one?
That the use of contraceptives demeans women?
That "Women looooove abortions"?
That a Republican candidate for president equated making contraception available to women" as the same as buying rubbers from a machine in a mens room.
Ted Nugent calling Clinton a "worthless bitch"?
Calling Carly Fiorina ugly?
Fighting pay equality?
"Let'em buy their own damn rape kit!"
Limbaugh's calling women Feminazi's?
Limbaugh's assault on Sandra Fluke?
Limbaugh, who once said, " I love the womens movement - especially when walking behind it"?
Ann Coulter telling the New York Observer that women shouldnt be allowed to vote? Echoed by Limbaugh and David Barton?
That a Republican candidate for Governor wrote that working women and feminists were "detrimental" to the family?
That that same Republican candidate for Governor said government policy should favor married couples over "cohabitators, homosexuals or fornicators"?
That that same Republican candidate for Governor slammed a 1972 Supreme Court decision legalizing the use of contraception by unmarried couples?
That a state Rep. in Oklahoma said there's a "...feeling that women aren't capable of making reproductive decisions"?
That a Republican said that disabled children are Gods punishment to women who have aborted their first pregnancy?
Rep. Mark Souder? Senator Vitter? Gingrich? Livingston. Henry Hyde? Mark Foley? Roy Blunt? Chip Pickering? Paul Stanley? The Duggars!? Ted Nugent? Ted Haggard? Scott DesJarlais? The Governor of Alabama? The Governor of South Carolina?
That "Three Fingers" Scalia argued that the Constitution does not, in fact, bar sex discrimination? Who do you think would bear the bulk of that burden, honey?
That James O'Keefe's tried to "punk" a female CNN reporter?
That women are to be punished if they simply have sex?
That Republican bill H.R. 358 would allow hospitals to let a pregnant woman DIE rather than perform the abortion that would save her life?
That a Republican promoted a Ga. law that could give the death penalty to women who had MISCARRIAGES?
That that same Georgia Republican promoted a law that all miscarriages are to be reported and investigated by the police as potentially crimes of murder?
That a sitting Republican Congressman frequently contributed to a magazine that called women oral relief stations, that asked its readers to imagine having sex with Wasserman-Schultz, that complained about women who said their knees hurt, that depicted women as servants of men and suggested that they should wear slave chokers as accessories?
That a Republican claimed that lack of insurance coverage would not deny women access to birth control?
That Chris Christie said the GOP shouldn't have to condescend to women?
That House Republicans consistently voted to de-fund the Violence Against Women Act?
Fucking Texas! Jesus!
'Crisis Pregnancy Centers'?
That Michigan Republicans passed a law requiring women to buy rape insurance, all based on petition signed by a whopping 4.2% of voters?
Gretchen Carlson? And 20 other women?
Andrea Tantaros?
That a Virginia GOP candidate said there should be no incest exception for abortion because sometimes its voluntary?
That women need to be the first ones shot by the feds in Bundy Ranch standoff?
Stephen Bannon and his wife?
In your neighboring state of Minnesota: Republican Jason Lewis defended slavery and mocked women and still won his election?
That the First Amendment Defense Act puts to law that sexual relations are properly reserved to ...marriage, creating a license to let employers fire women for getting pregnant outside of wedlock?
And none of that bothered you?????? None of it.
Where have you been honey? This has been right in front of you for more than a decade. Was it just because it didn't affect you personally that it didn't matter to you?
Drop dead.
MyOwnPeace
(17,552 posts)"First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me."
Doesn't ANYBODY see this?
THAT is why so many are posting about "the Donald" - it is the same story - years later.
Great post, Grins!
GeoWilliam750
(2,555 posts)calimary
(90,017 posts)This one's a real keeper!
DAYUM! A tour de force! This is what happens when you stay vigilant and keep track of such stuff. You wind up with a withering collection of horrors that would raise anybody's blood pressure! As well as their outrage!
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)CherokeeDem
(3,736 posts)"Attached to them as well. And when its all said and done, all youll have left is the party The Left always accused you of being. Scum."
She is correct, not everyone in the Republican Party is scum, but that is all they have left now.
As for Jeff Sessions... I saw that scumbag make that comment. What despicable...no deplorable... people these Republicans are.
Sorceress
(311 posts)Unfortunately, the GOP was always this. They simply attempted to be more subtle about it. Their policies alone reveal who they really are. Regardless, glad to see that she has opened her eyes.
And others upthread have commented on this.
I left the Republican party in 1988 when I was 22 yrs old, and even I felt like I had seen the light a little too late
. Glad her eyes are opened, but I think they need to be opened a bit wider!
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)and, obviously, put the GOP before their Christianity is the level of importance.
How screwed up can one be?
Good to see a Republican woman defend her rights and beliefs.
Ligyron
(8,006 posts)Didn't want to know about the issues or have them explained - just give her a copy of the sample ballot I'd filled out so she'd know how to mark it.
Now, she and I are much alike politically, so even if she HAD studied the issues, she would have no doubt voted much as I had anyway. But even to this day she and my daughter (who's always at work 24/7 it seems like) both ask for a copy of the sample ballot which I've researched and they mark it accordingly.
Now today we can vote absentee just by requesting the ballot, so I get one for both of them and they copy mine to mail back. I'll have to admit it does take some study especially with all the amendments on it. Lots of time they are labeled in a most dishonest way, often advocating the exact opposite of their wording.
I guess the end result is still a good one for progressives so I'm happy to do it for them (and us Dems).
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)I agree, it is good for us Dems. Carry on...
MoonchildCA
(1,349 posts)I study all the ballot issues, judges, and local candidates, and my husband uses my sample ballot.
Ligyron
(8,006 posts)Wounded Bear
(64,324 posts)maybe they "choose" who to vote for themselves, but many of them are brainwashed idiots. I hope the women in their lives can vote independently.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)I have found that many of those husbands are Rush, Beck and Drudge followers. That explains a lot. They are still believing the rumors about Hillary killing 48 people, Whitewater, Benghazi and the cursed emails. Chuck the million$ spent on the investigations over the years with no convictions...innocent until proven guilty.
Hillary is a strong woman and the Repubs are terrified of strong women. Those men might just lose the only true power they have in life...controlling their wives.
kag
(4,197 posts)Glenn Beck: Hillary Clinton is a 'moral, ethical choice' for Republicans
Source: CNN
Conservative political commentator and media personality Glenn Beck said the election of Hillary Clinton as president by refusing to support Donald Trump is "a moral, ethical choice" for Republicans.
The outspoken opponent of the GOP's presidential nominee wrote on Facebook over the weekend that every voter had to decide for themselves what constitutes "a bridge too far," after the release of footage last week in which Trump can be heard making lewd and sexually aggressive comments about women.
"It is not acceptable to ask a moral, dignified man to cast his vote to help elect an immoral man who is absent decency or dignity," Beck wrote on Facebook in reference to Trump. "If the consequence of standing against Trump and for principles is indeed the election of Hillary Clinton, so be it. At least it is a moral, ethical choice."
. . . .
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/11/politics/glenn-beck-hillary-clinton-moral-ethical-choice/index.html
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)If anyone decided to write a novel of the election of 2016, they couldn't even...in their wildest imagination...come up with the charade we are watching at the present time. Each day is a new zig or zag...up one road and down another. There is no rhyme nor reason to the whole scenario, but it does hold ones attention, for better or worse.
I pity the historians who have to tackle the facts, since so many facts are built on lies.
Beck, eh?
lapfog_1
(31,904 posts)To see what it takes to have someone open their eyes finally
Like the hypocrisy of Newt and Ghoooliani and Livingston and Hastert and and and... didn't give you a clue!
When the asshat said that rape is not "legitimate rape" because if it was the woman couldn't get pregnant.
The GOP is built on lies, racism, misogyny, xenophobia, anti-science, and sheer stupidity.
And Trump is just the outward manifestation of the GOP inner asshole.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)world wide wally
(21,836 posts)Javaman
(65,710 posts)2nd class citizens.
I guess everyone has a breaking point?
whathehell
(30,468 posts)Javaman
(65,710 posts)and an even scarier thought is that there are women out there that still support him.
whathehell
(30,468 posts)He's trailing with women by about 20 points.
mainer
(12,554 posts)if that doesn't complete her transition to Dem, nothing else will.
whathehell
(30,468 posts)-Steph-
(409 posts)To put it into perspective, it is VERY common to see confederate flags flying on a daily basis around here. This election cycle something is very different though. Normally, yards everywhere are littered with signs supporting the Republican nominee. If you were to take a drive through my town today, you'd be really hard-pressed to find ONE pro-Trump sign.
Just yesterday, my Aunt was telling me how she was in a local restaurant and there were a group of people near her talking about how they've voted Republican their whole lives, but this year.. they're voting for Hillary. I've lived here my whole life and I never could have imagined this day would come.
Regardless of whether or not the specific tweets in the OP are real or fake, the truth is that Donald Trump is a sinking ship and many Republicans really are jumping ship left and right.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)"Regardless of whether or not the specific tweets in the OP are real or fake ..."
-Steph-
(409 posts)it definitely did come across that way. I had noticed in the first reply that someone said they hoped it wasn't performance art. I was trying to convey that even if it was.. many people really are jumping ship regardless. I hadn't clicked on the link, because I believed it to be true based on my own experiences with Republicans where I live. However, I have clicked on it now. I apologize.
renate
(13,776 posts)So I'll just say I'm glad you're posting again!
-Steph-
(409 posts)Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)At least once thought that rethug men are/were ever in possession or deserving of anything resembling dignity.
Otherwise, good ON her!
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)mercuryblues
(16,411 posts)along as the GrOPers have women like you defending their sexism and misogyny they have the cover to continue on their path.
She shouldn't worry too much, their are plenty of republican women who think Trump admitting to sexual assault is fine and dandy.
Wounded Bear
(64,324 posts)Soxfan58
(3,537 posts)Will tell their Trump loving redneck husbands they support trump, but will pull the lever for Hillary.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)And then the next set of tapes gets released ....
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Many evangelical and LDS members are refusing to vote for Trump, but it doesn't automatically mean that they will be voting for Hillary.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...If a woman is filling hers out at the dinner table along with her husband, then her husband will see how she's voting. He might even fill out hers himself. And there goes in her vote for Trump, no matter what she wishes.
Not that I'm against absentee ballots. I'm all for early voting and by mail and such. I'm just pointing out that it *can* undermine the ideal of a person voting privately and un-pressured.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Ilsa
(64,368 posts)I don't expect that many to swtch to D, but at least she isn't voting for Johnson or donny. Or Stein.
tyne
(1,248 posts)to display this so it can be reposted?
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)I used Word for the formatting, Grab for the image capture, PhotoShop to save as a JPEG, and PostImage to save online. View image to see the full-sized version.

Raster
(21,010 posts)Welcome to the REAL WORLD, MBGlenn.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)mountain grammy
(29,035 posts)Amonester
(11,541 posts)Every bat shit crazy and hateful crap that piece of garbage and his zombies said and did before did not revolt her, but THIS one does?
Hello?? Me, me, me...
rivegauche
(601 posts)I'm just glad that she, an obviously intelligent woman, has the guts to stand up and shout that she has had it.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)had that tape not find the light of day
Against both gender's interests and the LGBT community...
rivegauche
(601 posts)Look, whatever it takes, WHATEVER it takes, to turn people off from the slimebag is perfectly fine for me. She's late to the party but I welcome her.
Amonester
(11,541 posts)DictatoRial zombies can't gerrymander presidential elections and they can't learn from their previous lessons!
I bet she will be back rooting and voting against her own interests (and her family) next... zombies never can learn.
rivegauche
(601 posts)jodymarie aimee
(3,975 posts)she is right wing crackpot who stood with our hideous Gov Walker. Her opinion means nothing to us here.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)I suppose her fundamental religious conservatism will survive this crisis of conscience, it produced it I suppose. Her opinions will remain on the right, no doubt. What is particularly of interest here is how Republicans are politically expedient and disconnected from the motivations and culture which they exploit to achieve power.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)That...yes, I love this point. I need to think about this.
Coyotl, if you wouldn't mind, can you tell me a favorite author or two who influence your thinking? I think there's a lot packed in that comment that I wanna explore.
Tanks!
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)...but the fact you dislike her so much actually makes this much more satisfying.
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,940 posts)up til then we all tend to keep thinking what we've been thinking.
From here hopefully people will start to connect the dots and see all the other lies and bigotry for what they are.
SunSeeker
(58,283 posts)KALD
(128 posts)For years this woman has made life difficult for others, but now because she speaks up we should admire her... I don't think so.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)barbtries
(31,308 posts)megan Kelly "bleeding from wherever" didn't do it. trump hinting multiple times that he wants to fuck his daughter didn't do it. a history of serial marriages to younger women and rating women on a 1-10 scale based strictly on physical attributes didn't do it.
you know, i mean i'm glad she's come around, but give me a break! he's been showing his true colors all along. and the republicans well, so have they. all along.
tclambert
(11,193 posts)Ya gotta go get some old white guys to run it, of course . . .
Just, wow. Good for her.
pansypoo53219
(23,034 posts)dae
(3,396 posts)No, they are not like Trump but they do need perspective.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Skittles
(171,707 posts)WHERE THE HELL HAS SHE BEEN?
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)niyad
(132,440 posts)Response to Coyotl (Original post)
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raven mad
(4,940 posts)Alaska Sens. Sullivan and Murkowski call on Donald Trump to drop out of presidential race
http://www.adn.com/politics/2016/10/08/alaska-sen-dan-sullivan-calls-on-donald-trump-to-drop-out-of-presidential-race/
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)At this point, the 14% undecided are likely 2/3 Clinton voters, placing Clinton in position for a Johnson-Goldwater blowout of historic proportions. That is dependent on turning out our voters, of course. This massive shift in OH should also turn the Senate seat race in Ted Strickland's favor.
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Democrat Hillary Clinton has a 9-point lead over Republican Donald Trump in Ohio following the news of Trump's vulgar talk about women and after the second debate between the candidates, according to a statewide poll released today by Baldwin Wallace University in Berea.
Clinton leads Trump, 48 percent to 38 percent, with 14 percent unsure, in a direct match-up, the poll found. When the two minority party candidates are added to the mix as they are on state ballots -- Clinton leads by 9 percent, 43 percent to 34 percent. ..........

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