2016 Postmortem
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Ilsa
(61,731 posts)into positive advertising?
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)She must out-populist Trump or we will get 4 years of dumb-f#ck Don enacting Pences policies
chillfactor
(7,607 posts)I really must disagree with your analysis....
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)I would also remind you that even Reagan ran negative ads against Mondale in 1984.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,265 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,265 posts)"Smoking Drano is a terrible idea"
Happy 1,000th!
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)jcgoldie
(11,687 posts)You might feel better if you check some of em out.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,265 posts)And we will commiserate together under the fist of Emperor Trump.
Until then, we have a Republican candidate at war with his own party who is being subjected to damning releases of his own words.
mythology
(9,527 posts)But let's review.
538 has Clinton 83.6% to win the election. The CBS poll has her up 9 points today. Real Clear Politics has her up 6 points in the average and that's with a poll that has Trump doing 6 points better than the other 7 polls. The Princeton Election Consortium has her winning 317 electoral votes.
I'm not sure how that qualifies as blowing it, but okay.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Squinch
(51,215 posts)zonkers
(5,865 posts)grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)jcgoldie
(11,687 posts)"Trumpies" might not give a fuck about unleashing nuclear war, but she doesn't need them, nor is she ever going to get them. Everyone else does give a fuck about that and is scared to death of the idea of Donald Trump with the red phone. Aside from that is the ridiculous hyperbolic assertion that she's "on the verge of blowing the election" based on 2 television advertisements you saw.
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alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)jcgoldie
(11,687 posts)Her opponent is being begged to drop out of the race by his own party leadership, he's blowing up any semblance of dignity he may have had among people like yourself who obviously haven't been paying attention, and your conclusion is she's "in trouble" because she's still not Bernie Sanders.
tinrobot
(10,980 posts)I think her negative ads have been working, but as you've stated, there is another side to the coin.
We want people fired up so they come out to vote.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,265 posts)Just yesterday I posted one of her ads regarding her work for foster children. It was incredibly moving and inspirational. Take a look:
Of course, that stuff doesn't get media attention. Trump going ballistic does, and that still helps us. But it's not like Hillary hasn't attempted to outline her own vision and achievements irrespective as to anything about Donald Trump.
tinrobot
(10,980 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,215 posts)Now that the news media has been basically hogtied into covering Trump more negatively, she doesn't have to. They and Donald are doing the negative advertising already. Its already a tough go when Trump can say anything he wants...like a 20% tax cut without any plan to do so, and the Democrats are held to a higher standard. But that doesn't mean she should not show Americans that they have actual PLANS to help the average American get ahead.
mcar
(42,676 posts)She's up by 9-11 points nationally and headed for an electoral landslide. But she's going to "blow it" because you don't like some of her ads?
I trust Team Hillary.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)Trump has a total of 2 ads currently running (barely) right now. Clinton has over 20 different ads running hourly in every state and territory. Hell, I'm in San Francisco, and anti-Trump ads are even airing here. No area is being taken for granted. Obviously, the campaign has identified and targeted certain voters in your area and are airing ads designed to make them either worry about Trump's global threat to peace or to force them to defend his crap to friends and family.
I worked in the DC national HQ during the Kerry campaign, and several highly regarded demographers and other statisticians met in our confernece room regularly to map out ad buys and airing schedules across the nation.
It sounds like you're really worried, but don't be. The campaign actually knows how to do this stuff...unlike the dumbass trumpsters.
BlueProgressive
(229 posts)Trump is his own negative ad, 24-7.
Still, I find the one with the children listening to Trump on television to be quite striking.
Nobody's trying to change the mind of "Trumpies", they're beyond salvaging--- but the rest of us worry about Trump's finger on the button. The ad makes a valid point that the undecided ought to think over.
I believe HIllary has a mix of positive and negative ads going, although I haven't seen any of hers just lately-- because Michigan is in the bag for Hillary at this point.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Primary. You can't give her any credit, can you? That's why Sanders lost. This bullshit.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Hillary is kicking Trump all over the field and has a 96% chance of winning. You call that "blowing" an election? Seriously?
Get over Bernie, he lost.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Good Lord.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)Let me be blunt - I'm surprised she is even running Ads in that RED state - although would be nice to see Kander take out blout....gout - bout - bunting - I forget..at least he is at 30%..
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/missouri/
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)All his ads are RW red meat smear ads ... so ridiculous, I can't imagine him gaining any new voters here.
Orrex
(63,430 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Hillary needs to channel her inner Hillary, who is a good and decent person with a fine intellect. Trump is too busy shooting fish in a barrel and himself.
stonecutter357
(12,708 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,265 posts)I can literally count on my hands, maybe just one hand, the time I've actually seen an ad from the Trump campaign on TV.
On the other hand, I usually see a Hillary ad on TV at least once an hour whenever I watch TV. Maybe more.
And I live in Florida.
Florida.
The Florida.
Florida that was officially separated by 537 votes in 2000 at the time the recount was shut down.
That Florida.
Yes, Florida.
obamanut2012
(26,327 posts)In SOFL.
And, the only Trump ads I see are ones with Ivanka doing a voiceover about how her dad is just swell and loves the women.
Skoods
(341 posts)Trumps entire campaign is a negative portrayal of America. He said at the debate that America is stupid. Everything that comes out of his mouth shows contempt for our country and the direction it's going in.
Maybe, if you get all of your news from commercials, you may feel the way that you do. However, the reality is the exact opposite of your portrayal
obamanut2012
(26,327 posts)PunksMom
(440 posts)a great mixture of both positive for her ads, and negative for tRump. Also, & I find this strange, very few ads for the orange orangutan.💥