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(nyt cannot go two days without showing its real stripes)
New York Times bizarrely suggests Hillary Clinton is running scared from Trump's women problem
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COLUMBUS, OH - OCTOBER 10: Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton arrives at Ohio State University on October 10, 2016 in Columbus, Ohio. A day after the second presidential debate in St. Louis, Hillary Clinton is campaigning in Michigan and Ohio. (Photo by Maddie McGarvey/Getty Images)
The New York Times Amy Chozick has a piece of political analysis to get your eyes rolling, if thats something youre interested in. It seems that Hillary Clinton is having trouble addressing Donald Trumps massive issues with sexism, misogyny, and sexual assault, because of her own compromised past. Yes, the same Hillary Clinton who forcefully addressed Trumps ugly record on women at the second debate. Never mind that, Amy Chozick says shes effectively paralyzed. How do we know?
The most impassioned speeches on the topic have come not from her, but from the first lady, Michelle Obama, who said Mr. Trumps words had shaken me to my core, and from President Obama and others. When Mrs. Clinton herself spoke, she quickly changed the subject to other groups of people Mr. Trump had insulted, and she tried to lighten the mood with a joke about watching cat videos.
No. 1: Theres a major tradition in presidential politics of surrogates saying things the candidate cant or wont. And when Michelle Obama says it, it gets a kind of attention it wouldnt get when Hillary Clinton says it. Thats something Chozick, a political reporter in good standing, should well know.
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In short, that is one stupid paragraph. It is not the only stupid paragraph. She has played it safe, Chozick writes, all but disappearing from the campaign trail until the next debate in Las Vegas on Wednesday. Because she never did debate prep ever before! This is something entirely new!
The whole article is written as if Clinton is running scared, as opposed to winning handily. As if Clinton is watching helplessly, unable to address Trumps issues, as opposed to having addressed them a few times herself and then moved on to other issues, secure in the knowledge that the Obamas and other surrogates are out there burying Trump on women almost as fast as hes burying himself. Hillary Clinton has not stopped being an effective voice for women just because we found out her opponent is a sexual predator or because hes ready to attack her for things her husband did decades ago. Rather, that Clinton is kinda different from Trump on womens issues is such a slam dunk at this point that it doesnt need to be Clintons main personal focus. But maybe thats too subtle a point for a New York Times reporter to get.
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Democat
(11,617 posts)I wonder who their investors are these days.
apnu
(8,759 posts)In regards to reporting women coming forward to accuse trump of sexual assault.
The NYT seems a bit schizo these days.
displacedtexan
(15,696 posts)It will be reported that everyone else "lost."
underpants
(182,949 posts)In fact she shouldn't. This is dominating the news as with anything Trump. Let it.
Hillary is using her time to tell people what she is actually going to do. The writer needs to cover that,not mythical drama. Plus Hillary doesn't want to get drawn down in the mud with Trump. Looking like a winner keeps the wind at your back.
Wounded Bear
(58,742 posts)when they are busy destroying themselves.
Napolean, I believe.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)...possible interpretation on anything at all that Hillary says or does.
Really stupid and biassed.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)today's Times front page (not "analysis" is talking about how Hillary is making inroads into Republican territory and seriously going after Trump.
Personally, I would rather a major outlet show us all sides and not be a mouthpiece for one of them. If Hillary does indeed stumble a bit answering Trump's onslaughts, that's a reasonable thing to report.
niyad
(113,617 posts)roscoeroscoe
(1,370 posts)Not under the masthead I hope
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)I laughed and laughed and laughed.
The last thing I'm worried about is HRC's ground game, because it will deliver just fine.
niyad
(113,617 posts)showing up drumpfy? making him look worse than he already does?