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csziggy

(34,131 posts)
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 02:02 AM Oct 2016

Hugh Hewitt brought up Norm Coleman and Dino Rossi

And talked about the elections they lost as if those were not legitimate.

I wasn't familiar with those two so I looked them up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_gubernatorial_election,_2004
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Minnesota,_2008

Both elections were contested and had a lot of contentious fighting over ballots. In both cases, ballots that had been 'lost' (Washington, 2004) or rejected (Minnesota, 2008) made the difference in the results. Neither election was illegitimate - though they might have been if those ballots had not been rediscovered or not found to be acceptable.

If this is what the Republicans consider to be 'rigged' elections, then the Democratic Party needs to be on alert. Allowing ballots to be lost as in Washington state - when absentee ballots were rejected because the signatures on the applications for them had not been scanned into the system for comparison - or not included in a recount of a close election because of questionable rejections is voter suppression.

The part the Republicans don't like about those two elections is that once all legitimate ballots were counted, the Democrats won. If the suppression of hundreds of absentee ballots in each state had been allowed, the Republicans would have won.

Every eligible voter should be allowed to vote and every ballot cast should be counted. Otherwise our elections are not legitimate!

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Hugh Hewitt brought up Norm Coleman and Dino Rossi (Original Post) csziggy Oct 2016 OP
"Rigged" for them is when minorities or dems vote Foggyhill Oct 2016 #1
Hey I was on the Rossi-Gregoire recount gopiscrap Oct 2016 #2
Yes, in both cases the Democrats won csziggy Oct 2016 #3
Me too oldtime dfl_er Oct 2016 #4
Was living in CA at the time... Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #5
Yeah I think Rossi ran 2 or 3 MFM008 Oct 2016 #6
I love The Supremes! pinboy3niner Oct 2016 #7
They are more enjoyable than what we've been listening to! csziggy Oct 2016 #8

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
1. "Rigged" for them is when minorities or dems vote
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 02:12 AM
Oct 2016

The so called voting scandals in Indiana
Tells you that the only ones doing the
Rigging is them
Basically Trump is all about projection

gopiscrap

(23,726 posts)
2. Hey I was on the Rossi-Gregoire recount
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 02:14 AM
Oct 2016

and Gregoire won fair and square BTW Rossi is a fucking asshole douche bag

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
3. Yes, in both cases the Democrats won
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 02:19 AM
Oct 2016

In the Rossi-Gregoire recount, it was finding the ballots that had been rejected that changed the winner.

That's the point - in both of those elections, 'screw-ups' that caused ballots to be rejected could have caused a different result than the actual vote count. The Democratic Party needs to be sure that nothing like those cases happens anywhere in the country this year.

Wounded Bear

(58,598 posts)
5. Was living in CA at the time...
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 02:22 AM
Oct 2016

looked like they actually corrected some shenanigans with the ballots.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
6. Yeah I think Rossi ran 2 or 3
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 03:55 AM
Oct 2016

Times. One time it did flip almost overnight.
He was a creep. Reminded me of Daryl Issa.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
8. They are more enjoyable than what we've been listening to!
Thu Oct 20, 2016, 12:11 PM
Oct 2016

And they had a song appropriate for this election year:

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