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Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 08:00 AM Oct 2016

Watching all the reports come in about early voting...

Seeing that surge in early ballots being cast in Democratic districts in varied states across the land, taking in the reports of women and minorities in particular turning out, looking at all those long lines of folks waiting to vote in places where Democrats tend to congregate...

It's giving me a much warmer feeling about the presence of an "enthusiasm gap".

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Watching all the reports come in about early voting... (Original Post) Tom Rinaldo Oct 2016 OP
This is a very important election, allowing Donald Trump to be elected is not smart Thinkingabout Oct 2016 #1
But, but, but... TrishaJ Oct 2016 #5
Yes! Plus no Stamina! and on her deathbed... lol! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #8
Was it really Hillary? Cracklin Charlie Oct 2016 #28
Hillary's supporters have been found to be more enthusiastic in the primary and GE Renew Deal Oct 2016 #2
Its enthusiasm and also a big old "hell NO to Trump" from every quarter.... sunonmars Oct 2016 #3
+1 narnian60 Oct 2016 #4
I like to think Im well informed but I just dont get this - how is it that votes are already being Kashkakat v.2.0 Oct 2016 #6
I think they just count the number of women in lines and some exit polling? Ligyron Oct 2016 #7
Its all the data from the Sos released as to statistics sunonmars Oct 2016 #9
They don't know the tally yet. But they do have an idea based on who has already voted. LiberalFighter Oct 2016 #10
No. LisaL Oct 2016 #12
?? Why no? LiberalFighter Oct 2016 #15
I was trying to say the same thing you just said. LisaL Oct 2016 #16
k LiberalFighter Oct 2016 #18
REally- they have our names and how we voted? Yikes I had no idea. What about privacy/sanctity of Kashkakat v.2.0 Oct 2016 #19
Nobody here is saying they know how you voted. LisaL Oct 2016 #20
Noooo They don't know how you voted. LiberalFighter Oct 2016 #21
LF you said "they know how you vote" and also how would they know if you vote D or R - do you mean Kashkakat v.2.0 Oct 2016 #22
Voting records are public information. LiberalFighter Oct 2016 #23
"How you voted" - not who you voted for jberryhill Oct 2016 #26
Party Registration? GopherGal Oct 2016 #25
Age, sex, party identification, and historical voting regularity jberryhill Oct 2016 #27
Boards of elections know who is voting. LisaL Oct 2016 #11
Campaigns will know who has voted too. LiberalFighter Oct 2016 #13
Yes, I believe boards of elections post numbers on their websites. LisaL Oct 2016 #14
There are no such numbers posted on the state or my county for those numbers yet. LiberalFighter Oct 2016 #17

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. This is a very important election, allowing Donald Trump to be elected is not smart
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 08:10 AM
Oct 2016

And further push the dumb move by the alt-right, KKK, and Dixiecrat. Electing Hillary on the other hand would be electing the most qualified candidate who has worldwide experience and has governing experience. GOTV, vote smart, and elect Hillary as president.

TrishaJ

(797 posts)
5. But, but, but...
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 09:33 AM
Oct 2016

BENGAHZI!! EMAILS!! VINCE FOSTER!! SHE'S WITCH!! BURN HER!!

No kidding; that's what I am still hearing from people who just will not accept how dangerous Donald Trump is

Renew Deal

(81,839 posts)
2. Hillary's supporters have been found to be more enthusiastic in the primary and GE
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 08:18 AM
Oct 2016

At least that's what the polls said.

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
3. Its enthusiasm and also a big old "hell NO to Trump" from every quarter....
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 08:29 AM
Oct 2016

He's mobilising people in droves to vote against him.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
6. I like to think Im well informed but I just dont get this - how is it that votes are already being
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 09:45 AM
Oct 2016

counted and we're being told that so many women are voting and so on and so forth???

How the heck would anyone know the gender of someone's vote? I dont recall this being widely broadcast in other elections and perhaps even if votes are known maybe they ought to keep quiet about it. It can bite both ways you know - see other thread about supposed DT votes.

LiberalFighter

(50,739 posts)
10. They don't know the tally yet. But they do have an idea based on who has already voted.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:03 AM
Oct 2016

For my congressional district I do know that 53.6% that have already voted were women. I could also check to see how they are likely to vote based on their past voting history and/or responses to surveys.

LiberalFighter

(50,739 posts)
15. ?? Why no?
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:14 AM
Oct 2016

I just checked and as I detailed 53.6% of those that have already voted were women. And that was as of Friday after 8 days of early in-person and mail voting.

Campaigns in our state know who has already voted. When they know who has already voted they also know their voting history and data compiled based on survey questions.

But election boards don't know unequivocally the voting breakdown.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
19. REally- they have our names and how we voted? Yikes I had no idea. What about privacy/sanctity of
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:34 AM
Oct 2016

vote and all that? I thought there was just record of the fact that I HAD voted, but not matched up with HOW I voted.

LisaL

(44,967 posts)
20. Nobody here is saying they know how you voted.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:41 AM
Oct 2016

But election board has to record if you voted or not. Otherwise how would anybody prevent you from voting again and again?

LiberalFighter

(50,739 posts)
21. Noooo They don't know how you voted.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:50 AM
Oct 2016

But if you vote D or R in the primaries all the time then there is a good assumption you will vote straight D or R based on which primary you voted.

The same goes for how you respond to key issues and who you will vote when called or otherwise contacted. Or if you are an activist in one party or the other.

For me, when I do get political calls I generally don't get any from the other side. Because they see that I vote only in the Democratic primaries.


It doesn't stop campaigns from reaching out to the other side as has probably been happening more this election due to Trump. The different groups that Trump has attacked.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
22. LF you said "they know how you vote" and also how would they know if you vote D or R - do you mean
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 11:11 AM
Oct 2016

to say this data is collected purely from surveys, and not voting records? If the former Im OK with that, if the latter I'm not!

Not challenging anything, just want to be sure I understand. thx

LiberalFighter

(50,739 posts)
23. Voting records are public information.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 11:23 AM
Oct 2016

The privacy applies to how you voted not that you voted or if you vote in a primary.

Anyone that has additional information have to do the legwork to gather it and pay the cost. Whether they do it by phone banking or walk campaigns or obtaining voting history from the state. The information is not going to be available to the average schmo because of the costs involved. And even then the availability of the data is still limited because of imposed restrictions.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
26. "How you voted" - not who you voted for
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:55 PM
Oct 2016

The fact that you have voted is recorded.

It has to be recorded so that you don't send in an absentee ballot and then show up in person; or that you don't vote twice in places with early voting.

But, yes, if you are a registered D, and you show up to vote in primaries and off-year elections, then the assumption is that you are voting for Hillary.

It is also safe to assume that Hillary gets a majority of women's votes.

So if the numbers show that a large number of regular D voters, and large numbers of women voters, are dominating the early voting, then these are favorable indicators.

GopherGal

(2,006 posts)
25. Party Registration?
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:47 PM
Oct 2016

I have been wondering about this too. Perhaps they know the party registration of those who have voted?

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
27. Age, sex, party identification, and historical voting regularity
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:58 PM
Oct 2016

All of that information can be compiled from the record of who has voted thus far.

The level of support for Hillary among those demographics, can be applied to that data in order to get an idea of how the vote is going.

LisaL

(44,967 posts)
11. Boards of elections know who is voting.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:03 AM
Oct 2016

If you vote early, you are crossed off the list so you can't vote again.

LiberalFighter

(50,739 posts)
17. There are no such numbers posted on the state or my county for those numbers yet.
Sun Oct 23, 2016, 10:21 AM
Oct 2016

But our campaigns in our state can create lists which also includes or excludes those that have voted already. That also includes their gender.

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