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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 07:33 AM Oct 2016

HuffPo home page headline: Trump an "FBI Fanboy In A Frenzy"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/

FBI Director James Comey Knew The Risks With His Clinton Letter. Trump Just Showed Them.
Trump’s already mischaracterizing the investigation into Clinton’s handling of sensitive government information.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-email-investigation_us_5814f6bde4b0390e69d0ab40

Less than 24 hours after Comey tried to calm nerves at the FBI, GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump proved his fears to be justified and raised additional questions about why he went public in the first place.

Speaking at a rally in Golden, Colorado, Trump made a series of apparent mischaracterizations or uninformed assertions about the state of the FBI investigation and law enforcement in general that will only muddy the waters further about this 11th hour campaign development.

It started with Trump’s blanket claim that the newly discovered emails ― found, apparently, on a computer that belonged to former Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.), the estranged husband of longtime Clinton aide Huma Abedin ― proved his Democratic rival was “guilty” of… something.

Trump also insisted that because the FBI had announced that investigators were looking into the emails, it had to be that the material they’d discovered was massive in scope and scandal. “Now the evidence is so overwhelming ― because they wouldn’t have done this unless the evidence was overwhelming,” he said.
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HuffPo home page headline: Trump an "FBI Fanboy In A Frenzy" (Original Post) Miles Archer Oct 2016 OP
Comey's fears? Ardoewaan Oct 2016 #1
I break that sentence down a slightly different way Miles Archer Oct 2016 #2
I disagree. fun n serious Oct 2016 #3
Entirely possible. Miles Archer Oct 2016 #6
For the 100th time - Comey was a special investigator during the Whitewater witch hunt Cosmocat Oct 2016 #4
As I said in my previous reply, that's 100% possible. Miles Archer Oct 2016 #7
^ THIS. dalton99 Oct 2016 #11
There is a tradition of publicizing a hit piece on a friday Ardoewaan Oct 2016 #5
Yes, and even if some of them were to or from Clinton and have already been reviewed Miles Archer Oct 2016 #8
Publishing a hit piece on Friday, JUST AFTER CLINTON AND TEAM... Raster Oct 2016 #10
HRC needs to address this with a very astute speech BSdetect Oct 2016 #9
Trump calling others sleazy! Wow! The man-boy needs a mirror Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #12

Ardoewaan

(144 posts)
1. Comey's fears?
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 07:36 AM
Oct 2016

That's rich. It was a purposeful political assassination attempt. Thankfully the heat is on Comey now.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
2. I break that sentence down a slightly different way
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 07:49 AM
Oct 2016

1). I think Comey's biggest fear was covering his ass. This concept has shown up in several DU posts, as well as across the Web. It's the "whether there is anything in there or not, if I sit on it until after November 8th, I could get accused of sitting on the smoking gun." So he had no idea of what the emails contained. He knew that the emails were on Weiner's computer, not Clinton's server. He knew they weren't from her, or to her, but his biggest concern was his own ass, so he took action.

2). Bringing in the "spoiler" aspect...Comey as a Republican hoping to boost down-ticket races, if not Trump himself, is absolutely possible. My guess is that it was an "added benefit" in his mind, but I still think his primary motivation was to cover his own ass.

3). He had no fear of Trump doing what he is doing now. His "fear" was that when...not if, when...Trump took the bait, there would be an enormous shit-storm heading back in his own direction, and that the ass-covering attempts would fail, because while he may have adhered to what I laid out in point #1, what he inherited as a result was across-the-boards anger from government and the public. It goes down as one of the biggest "stunts" in the history of United States Presidential Elections. It will be forever attached to his name and "legacy," whether he is fired, forced to resign, "censured," or anything else. His biggest fear was his own ass and now that ass ins in the wringers and he brought it on himself.

But no...he absolutely was not "afraid" of Trump using it to damage Clinton. A man stupid and naive enough to believe that is a man who would have been to stupid and naive to have gotten, and retained, his job in the first place. That kind of stupid falls into "can't find his own ass with a funnel, a flashlight, a mirror, and a sherpa" territory.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
3. I disagree.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:01 AM
Oct 2016

Comey could have easily said he consulted Loretta Lynch and was told not to go public with the information and that would have covered his ass. This was an attempt to derail the election.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
6. Entirely possible.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:16 AM
Oct 2016

I don't know enough about him, and it certainly reeks of "rigging the election."

All I know is that he didn't do what he should have done, which was listen to Loretta Lynch.

Cosmocat

(14,588 posts)
4. For the 100th time - Comey was a special investigator during the Whitewater witch hunt
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:04 AM
Oct 2016

I don't get how hard it is for people to get this.

He cut his teeth on ginning up bullshit against the Clinton's. What is he doing now is what he did to them 20 years ago.

That was in full display during his press conference he had no business doing four months ago. THAT was unprecedented, for an FBI director to call a press conference to say, well, gee, we have on grounds to prosecute, then go on a completely subjective and BASELESS rant against a candidate for POTUS. His pure hatred of her dripped throughout that event.

I called it for what it was then.

NOW, he does it AGAIN.

There literally is NOTHING here that relates in any way to Hillary Clinton and this asshole sends the REPUBLICAN house members who have already said they have years of of "material" to investigate her once she is elected a letter that tees them up to run around with their hair on fire screaming lies that our worthless as media is breathlessly waiting propagate.

Republicans go to move when one of their assholes actually does something wrong is to destroy the person who is simply doing their job. We see it REPEATEDLY.

But, here we have democrats doing this "oh, gosh, he is in such a tough spot"he was just CYA or excusing this as banal incompetence.

HE KNEW FULL FUCKING WELL WHAT HE WAS DOING.

It was what he purposefully did four months ago and he it was what he did 20 year ago.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
7. As I said in my previous reply, that's 100% possible.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:20 AM
Oct 2016

I still think his primary motivation was his own self-interests.

And that absolutely could have taken the form of looking good to Republicans. He knew what he was doing, he knew what the outcome would be. I don't think he "took one for the team." My guess is that he felt he would somehow be exonerated of doing exactly what he did, and I don't see that happening.

Ardoewaan

(144 posts)
5. There is a tradition of publicizing a hit piece on a friday
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 08:05 AM
Oct 2016

This indicates to me that it was purposeful, furthermore there were republican senators (e.g. Chaffetz) that received advance notice. If the reports are true that the e-mails are not from or to Clinton, I think point #1 becomes invalid, but that remains to be confirmed.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
8. Yes, and even if some of them were to or from Clinton and have already been reviewed
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:24 AM
Oct 2016

It stinks, no matter how you slice it. He would have had to have seen something that was cause for alarm, and he didn't, because he admitted he hasn't seen the content, so it becomes the equivalent of "there might be a spider in the barn, so let's just burn it down to be safe."

The Trump reaction is predictable and mind-numbing, the whole "there must be something explosive in there for him to have done this" meme, because of the shoe were on the other foot, Trump would be screaming that the letter went out without Comey's knowledge of the emails' content.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
10. Publishing a hit piece on Friday, JUST AFTER CLINTON AND TEAM...
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 11:44 AM
Oct 2016

...BOARDED A JET FOR A 2.5 HOUR FLIGHT WITH LITTLE OR NO WI-FI!

Comey KNEW EXACTLY what he was doing and the havoc this could cause.

BSdetect

(8,999 posts)
9. HRC needs to address this with a very astute speech
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 09:40 AM
Oct 2016

Calling out the pertinent facts.

Comey is a craven coward abusing his position on many levels.

I have never trusted the appointment of these republicans into power by Democrats.

For fucks sake enough of that please.

Its all just fodder for the chattering class on cable news.




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