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global1

(25,226 posts)
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:53 AM Oct 2016

Why Is It That Hillary E-Mails Stick And Trump The Sexual Predator, Tax Evader, Russian Sympathizer.

liar, con-artist, hate spewer, racist, etc, etc, etc, doesn't?

Trump is so corrupt it isn't even funny - yet it seems that he gets away with murder and the MSM just piles on Hillary for all kinds of things that just don't have any legs and are fabricated issues by the Repugs.

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Why Is It That Hillary E-Mails Stick And Trump The Sexual Predator, Tax Evader, Russian Sympathizer. (Original Post) global1 Oct 2016 OP
Corporate media loves shitshows and the monkeys throwing the shit. blm Oct 2016 #1
Exactly blm. They need a horse race. bench scientist Oct 2016 #5
They stuck with me. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2016 #2
Because the gd m$m is covering for an admitted sexual Cha Oct 2016 #3
I think the sexual predator stuff has been sticking, it is the Russian connection that isn't. tonyt53 Oct 2016 #4
Repukes are good for (their) business. MoonRiver Oct 2016 #6
There's a storyline for each bmstee01 Oct 2016 #7
Because his supporters don't care that he is a racist con-man sexual predator Putin fanboy. NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #8
white priviledge, sexism, racism, homophobia and one fucking twisted version Grey Lemercier Oct 2016 #9
Yes - corporate media is a factor in whipping up faux-frenzy and... CincyDem Oct 2016 #10
Democrats must be pure. And the media has a ridiculous double standard. Dem2 Oct 2016 #11
Because the TV media every day and wncHillsupport Oct 2016 #12
Because the Republican Smear Machine has had a 25 year head start on the Clintons. You can thank catbyte Oct 2016 #13
Even most Democrats that I know don't really believe it Jason1961 Oct 2016 #14
This makes my point about the media. wncHillsupport Oct 2016 #19
100% On the money Jason1961 Oct 2016 #20
Unbelievable isn't it? True_Blue Oct 2016 #15
It doesn't. Polls move a little, race stays the same all cycle long. Coyotl Oct 2016 #18
Point made by a pundit this weekend mcar Oct 2016 #21

bench scientist

(1,107 posts)
5. Exactly blm. They need a horse race.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:58 AM
Oct 2016

And something to yammer on about 24/7. Most of the media has gotten lazy and just love new content irrespective of factual accuracy.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
4. I think the sexual predator stuff has been sticking, it is the Russian connection that isn't.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:58 AM
Oct 2016

For the life of me, I do not understand why that isn't the biggest story. A foreign government actively trying to influence a US election is damned near the same as war.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
6. Repukes are good for (their) business.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:58 AM
Oct 2016

Most of all they fear regulation, and know that Rump won't go there. Hillary might, although I doubt it. They're just not taking any chances. Constitution and rule of law be damned!

bmstee01

(453 posts)
7. There's a storyline for each
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:59 AM
Oct 2016

Stories about lies/corruption stick for her.
For him it's stories about bigotry that stick to him.

The narrative was created early on and whatever feeds that narrative reinforces the perception.

So a damaging story for Trump has to do with racism, bigotry, sexual assault. Right now the rape story would be a development that would work.

The Russia tie could be damaging, but it requires headlines that are damaging. A lot of people only read the headlines and not the articles themselves.

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
8. Because his supporters don't care that he is a racist con-man sexual predator Putin fanboy.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:59 AM
Oct 2016

He makes them look good compared to him. If they have a leader who is more disgusting then they are then it makes them feel socially acceptable for once.

This is why we CANNOT let Trump win because if he does then the ugly underbelly of America will be validated.

It would immediately put American in the gutter right next to Iran, Russia, and North Korea. America would become a laughing stock to the rest of the world...just another country with a mentally deranged and unhinged leader.

He.CANNOT.win.

CincyDem

(6,338 posts)
10. Yes - corporate media is a factor in whipping up faux-frenzy and...
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 09:59 AM
Oct 2016


...it feels like there are two other drivers.

We are willing to believe what is said ABOUT a woman by others in spite of the facts.
We are willing to believe what is said BY a man about himself in spite of the fact.

Sad state of affairs that isn't new and has to change...not just at the Presidential level but everywhere.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
11. Democrats must be pure. And the media has a ridiculous double standard.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:02 AM
Oct 2016

The email thing is tragically boring, but because that fuck Comey left if open ended, the fake media will speculate until they run out of things to say. Which you think would be quickly since there's nothing to the story whatsoever.

wncHillsupport

(112 posts)
12. Because the TV media every day and
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:03 AM
Oct 2016

every night keep saying "people don't trust Hillary."
If you repeat something often enough, it becomes a reality.
Another young woman on msnbc kept asking a Hill supporter, why can't she tell a better story to make people trust her? The supporter said she does tell her story.

But, the advocate should have answered: Because you in the media will not accept her story and have made her pay for her mistake over and over and over again. YOU are the reason we are still talking about emails and trust.

They (media) are clueless about how they have kept the trustworthiness issue unfairly as the top headline for the whole campaign.

See newsweek.com and how Trump's 100x worse behaviors are ignored and have been throughout the campaign. Double standard, much?

catbyte

(34,342 posts)
13. Because the Republican Smear Machine has had a 25 year head start on the Clintons. You can thank
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:10 AM
Oct 2016

Richard Mellon Scaife's molding corpse for instigating this whole thing.

Jason1961

(413 posts)
14. Even most Democrats that I know don't really believe it
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:13 AM
Oct 2016

It seems that they didn't stick because for whatever reason most people don't really believe the stories about him. You have to think they way an average voter thinks; they don't read the stories, they skim the headlines and typically retain very little information.

To the average voter:

Trump has been accused of being a sexual predator, accused of being a tax evader, and accused of being a Russian Spy which for some reason is what people think when they hear sympathizer and most importantly NOTHING came of it.

Hillary however DELETED EMAILS in an attempt to cover up her wrongdoings and since she's admitted it she must be guilty of something. Unlike the accusations against Trump; which have resulted in nothing Hillary's deleted emails are being re-investigated by the FBI

wncHillsupport

(112 posts)
19. This makes my point about the media.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 11:47 AM
Oct 2016

If the "average voter" thinks Hillary deleted emails to cover up her 'wrongdoings' then again, no one in the media has pushed back to state that no one knows Hill's motivation beyond what she stated...that they were personal emails...so why must we disbelieve her statement? Would you want your personal emails published? Oh no, but Hillary is different. Every. single. thing. she. does. or. says. must. be. made. PUBLIC. No one else's, just Hillary Clinton's.

This again is media not being fair by making goading statements to their guests and encouraging the hate Hillary crowd.

Jason1961

(413 posts)
20. 100% On the money
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:00 PM
Oct 2016

For whatever reason everyone thinks they have a RIGHT to invade Hillary's privacy.

I can tell you what's in the emails she deleted; there are heated arguments between people that are friends now that they don't want to relive, there are personal health issues that EVERYONE will go through as they age that NO ONE HAS ANY RIGHT TO WHATSOEVER, there are boring and personal things that no one would find interesting.

If she had released her personal emails all anyone would be talking about would be things that are personally embarrassing to Hillary and we'd be in a worse spot now.

We need to get ahead of all this immediately or it could cost us this election.

True_Blue

(3,063 posts)
15. Unbelievable isn't it?
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 10:16 AM
Oct 2016

Trump is the worst candidate I've ever seen and I'm pretty old. I'm stunned that someone like Trump could get even more than 1% in the polls. Even Nixon seems like the Pope compared to this creep.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
18. It doesn't. Polls move a little, race stays the same all cycle long.
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 11:37 AM
Oct 2016

It seems to hardly matter what comes out, people are already in their political camps.

mcar

(42,279 posts)
21. Point made by a pundit this weekend
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:09 PM
Oct 2016

that makes sense to me (and this was from a liberal guy): Hillary did one thing wrong - the private server. Trump has done a thousand things wrong.

The media has spent 600 days focusing on the damn emails, but Trump's many malfeasances each only got a day or week of attention. This has cemented the idea that the email issue must be a big deal.

There was no reason for them to focus on the emails that much, except Clinton Rules, of course.

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