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Proud liberal 80

(4,392 posts) Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:05 PM Dec 2012

Bush's 2004 election mandate

Bush's winning margin was way less in the electoral college and 2% less in the popular vote than Obama's margins, but somehow Repugs and the media called that a mandate. ButObama's win is not; his was a squeaker.

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Bush's 2004 election mandate (Original Post) Proud liberal 80 Dec 2012 OP

I'm not so sure politics is supposed to make sense. nm. AnnaLee Dec 2012 #1

Obama has a good chance to be the first President winning at least 51% of the vote for 2 terms aaaaaa5a Dec 2012 #2

Of course to the Rs there is no mandate; he is a democrat and black -- enough said. Why Filibuster Harry Dec 2012 #3

Bush 2004 almost 3 million votes LiberalFighter Dec 2012 #4

That's "playing politics" NewJeffCT Dec 2012 #5

AnnaLee

(1,364 posts)

1. I'm not so sure politics is supposed to make sense. nm.

Reply to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:08 PM

Dec 2012

aaaaaa5a

(4,686 posts)

2. Obama has a good chance to be the first President winning at least 51% of the vote for 2 terms

Reply to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Sat Dec 1, 2012, 10:11 PM

Dec 2012

since Dwight Eisenhower!

Not Reagan
Not Nixon
Not Bush
Not Clinton
Not Truman

LBj, Kennedy, Carter and Bush Sr. were one term Presidents.

Ike and Obama are the only 2 Presidents since WW2 to obtain this achievement.

It that's not a mandate for an agenda, I don't know what is.

In modern Presidential politics it literally is impossible to do any better. If this record doesn't give a President a mandate, then the only conclusion one could reach is that it is impossible for any President to have a mandate to govern based on election results.

Filibuster Harry

(666 posts)

3. Of course to the Rs there is no mandate; he is a democrat and black -- enough said. Why

Reply to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 03:50 PM

Dec 2012

should anybody be surprised by the R comments? Who really believes that the R party is all about fairness?

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)

4. Bush 2004 almost 3 million votes

Reply to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 04:25 PM

Dec 2012

Obama 2012 almost 5 million votes. Might be more when all votes are counted.

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)

5. That's "playing politics"

Reply to Proud liberal 80 (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 04:54 PM

Dec 2012

Bush would have claimed a mandate if won by more than 1 vote.

And, Republicans would have denied Obama had a mandate even if Democrats won the House by 20 seats and Obama won by popular vote by 60%-40%

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