How far off were the 2012 polls?

[Garrett78]

In light of the point made by Doctor Jack in another thread, as well as the point made in another thread about how polling is less reliable in this age of cell phone dominance, I'm wondering if anyone knows of other examples where the 2012 polls (in the days leading up to the election) proved to be way off. Because I honestly have no recollection of the 2012 polling.

Were there many states (other than Michigan) where Obama (or Romney) won by a substantially larger or smaller margin than those last minute polls suggested he'd win them by?

[BlueStreak]

1. Surely you remember Karl Rove's meltdown?

Does that answer the question?

[Garrett78]

4. Vaguely, in that I remember he had a meltdown.

But I don't recall the specifics.

[BlueStreak]

6. Rove was absolutely convinced they would win Ohio

and other states that they lost. And that was based on the polling -- the public polls plus Rove's own internal polls that were supposedly better than the public ones. They were all wrong.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/kateaurthur/karl-rove-was-so-karl-rove-on-fox-news-tuesday?utm_term=.xlnqGV6z6#.ql6VDxkrk

[doc03]

2. I don't remember but I think the results were much more favorable

to Obama than the polls. I am sure someone will have the facts for us.

[Dawson Leery]

3. Obama was up +1 average and won by 4.

[Garrett78]

5. In the RCP average?

That's the popular vote, but what about individual states?