2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum**Major Breaking News: ABC/WP Tracking poll just out-Clinton surges to 48-43 lead
HRC-48%
Trumpkin-43%
This is massive. 5 points!
Link:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/qualifications-temperament-aid-clinton-2016-campaigns-closing-days/story?id=43327300
Game over for Donald Trumpkin?
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)uawchild
(2,208 posts)Pollsters have been saying that Hiilary has been on the upswing all week, as the earlier poorer polling days drop off her tracking poll number will keep going up.
I read somewhere that when Mondays polls roll in she will be really rocketing upwards.
Schmidt and Wallace say that HRC's ground operations will give her at least 2 more points on top of what the polls say.
It could be up to 4.
triron
(22,023 posts)NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)Worked for McCain and Bush respectively, chief strategist and W.H. Communications Director specifically.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)and that dropped out of today's tracking, so everyone assumed her lead would decrease. Instead, it increased meaning that yesterday's polling must have been even better than her previous best!
vadermike
(1,417 posts)That's good , media can't ignore this one. She's surging at the right time! Gotv!! MAkes sense with us crushing it with the early vote ! Momentum into the final weekend!!!!
world wide wally
(21,755 posts)any bets?
vadermike
(1,417 posts)Polling to follow !
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)cilla4progress
(24,780 posts)Goddess!!
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)Maraya1969
(22,506 posts)MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)The results in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates, rest to some extent on the one-third of likely voters who say they've already voted. They go Clinton by 51-43 percent, leaving it closer among the two-thirds yet to vote when these interviews were completed.
Maraya1969
(22,506 posts)I'll post it too!
The results in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates, rest to some extent on the one-third of likely voters who say they've already voted. They go Clinton by 51-43 percent, leaving it closer among the two-thirds yet to vote when these interviews were completed.
triron
(22,023 posts)Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)triron
(22,023 posts)nevergiveup
(4,766 posts)response cracked me up......I am totally with you.....damn, this has been a rough few months.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)yellowcanine
(35,701 posts)NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)The one leading in the Sunday before polls, in aggregate, wins either on Election Day or at the Supreme Court. So, we are in tremendous shape with this 1st poll of the day.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)Qualifications. Temperament. Beyoncé.
Democrats Ascendant
(601 posts)Frogg
(365 posts)All she had to do was remind the people of who the Orange Flab is...
triron
(22,023 posts)Perhaps more undecideds coming back through election day.
vadermike
(1,417 posts)I am somewhat relieved-- but we will still gotv!! Is anyone worried about what the trumpets might do after the election? In the van Jones documentary the guy who was a trumpet as he knew a bunch of other trumpets that would go to civil war if Hillary is elected. I'm worried bout the crazies !!
world wide wally
(21,755 posts)He will just hide in his man cave for another 4 years.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)of dog shit...
Donald Duck made all of us laugh genuinely, this man made us cry...
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)Cha
(297,757 posts)Maraya1969
(22,506 posts)Donald Duck!
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,902 posts)Unfortunately, just in case you haven't noticed, we don't elect the President nationally by the popular vote. There's this thing called the Electoral College. I can't fully explain it, but this is one of those things that Wikipedia is really good for.
Sarcasm aside, Clinton will almost undoubtedly win the election.
ericson00
(2,707 posts)and the largest popular vote margin for such an election (excluding 1824, which was before popular vote was in every state) is 3%, as it was in 1876. 1888 was 0.8%, and 2000 was 0.5%.
If Hillary wins by any more than 3, she's not losing the election.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,902 posts)Three states? Three Electoral College votes? Three percent nationwide? Can you be just a bit more specific?
ericson00
(2,707 posts)n/t
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,875 posts)Yes, we all know about the Electoral College and we don't need to look it up on Wikipedia. National polls are not determinative but they do indicate trends, so they are not entirely meaningless. So please dismount from your elevated equine and give us dumb proles a little credit for understanding the system..
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,902 posts)actually understand.
Among the reasons people here are freaking out about various polls is that they don't seem to fully understand how our system works.
A few hours ago someone posted that what we need are 3, 4, or 5 strong national parties. Saying that shows a clear misunderstanding of our system, especially how we elect Presidents. We DON'T have a parliamentary system, unlike Europe, where minority parties combine to form a majority and run the country. Nope. We have a winner takes all system, where whoever gets the most EC votes is President, and he or she gets to try to work with whoever got elected to our House and Senate.
As a bit of a side note, this is exactly why Libertarians or Green Party candidates, or any other third party candidates, will NEVER be effective. None of them have figured out that to gain power they need to elect people in their party to lower offices, and build from there.
Conversely, the Right figured this out decades ago, and have elected people to every possible office, starting with city counselors, and ending with Senators and Representatives. They clearly understand the power system.
A lot of people, including I suspect many here on DU, don't fully grasp this.
No snark, trust me on this.
world wide wally
(21,755 posts)nobody would ever get a majority of the country behind them. We can see that even with two more weak parties in the game.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,875 posts)Yes, many people in this country are not very well-informed about how our government works; maybe civics isn't taught in high school any more. But I'm not sure where a failure to understand why third parties can't succeed in national elections correlates to the (alleged) failure to understand polls. Taking note of the results of a national poll does not mean a failure to understand the Electoral College, since in almost all cases the candidate who wins the Electoral College vote has almost always won the popular vote as well, and vice-versa. There is a correlation, so pointing out the results of a national poll is not evidence of ignorance of the system.
stamp the rooster
(24 posts)Thanks for the civics lesson poindexter.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)In 5 hours.
I hope we receive confirming margins in other polls, particularly as Hillary pushes closer to 50%. Fewer things can go wrong up there.
I expected a Comey decline then a natural rebound, but it appears to have happened a day or two earlier than I projected.
Fahrenthold451
(436 posts)My take is that a poll from Nov 3-6 would be basically back to where we started pre Comey
triron
(22,023 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)Dem2
(8,168 posts)Yes, I was shocked too.
regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)is REAL!
MFM008
(19,821 posts)You can only scream emails so many times with NO EVIDENCE.
ffr
(22,672 posts)Nice to see. Hope it encourages and stresses the importance for democrats to turn out and vote. Democracy in action. That's what it's all about. We vote. We win.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)I will be making calls for GOTV in my area Monday and Election Day.