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Apex812

(45 posts)
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 01:46 PM Nov 2016

Two paths the DNC can go forward to defeat Trump.

1) Double down on Clinton's neo-liberalism/corporatist establishment Democrats and develop a 50-State plan with a full time DNC chair and use more donors money to help fund the party. And use the money to help fund more state races. And just pray the corporate Democrat has less political baggage and can handle the RNC/Trump hate. And hope people will turn out for Democrats even though the numbers have been on a steady decline since Obama 2008.

or

2) Become a real Democrat Party fighting AGAINST the rich and wealthy and fighting FOR the common people. Become more activist and grassroots focused. Team up with more local and relevant progressive organizations, labor unions and unite them all under the Democrat Party.

And back an individual with a populist message who's savvy on social media to the point that they can out troll Donald Trump. And have the ability to connect to the people with real relevant issues like: creating more jobs, social justice reform, free public college, national health care, less taxes for middle-class and working-class Americans (like Bernie Sanders for an example). It doesn't matter if those issues sound unrealistic. The only thing that matter is if you can actually motivate people to the polls for your issues. And not sound like an average politician reading from the teleprompter reading boring establishment approved talking points that motivates only the donors to give you more money.


If the Democrats don't do either of the two and stick to the current path. They will lose even more seats as Democrats don't show up for midterm elections. And another real issue Democrats seem to ignore is how unpopular the current Democratic party is. Hillary Clinton popular votes were #NeverTrump votes.

If Hillary didn't have to face one of the most unpopular Presidential candidates of all time. She would've got embarrassed by young Marco Rubio and the rejuvenated fully-funded Republican party as turnouts for the Dems would've been at an all-time low. (Although losing to Trump is pretty embarrassing considering she had hundreds of millions of dollars and big data meanwhile he relied strictly on social media and rural grassroots campaigns and was smart enough to manipulate the dumb dying main stream media by forcing them to cover his campaign for free.)

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Two paths the DNC can go forward to defeat Trump. (Original Post) Apex812 Nov 2016 OP
Not True: Hillary Clinton popular votes were #NeverTrump votes. LonePirate Nov 2016 #1
You make some good points, but... subterranean Nov 2016 #2

LonePirate

(13,420 posts)
1. Not True: Hillary Clinton popular votes were #NeverTrump votes.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:12 PM
Nov 2016

More of Clinton's voters voted FOR her rather than voting AGAINST.

You might want to brush up on her policy positions as she supported pretty much everything you cited as a real relevant issue.

She lost for two reasons. 1.) Racists came out of the woodwork to vote Republican. 2.) Many WWC and Rust Belt voters believed his lies about bringing the jobs back. What do you think happens to both of those groups when he doesn't racially cleanse the country, does not build his wall and does not bring the jobs back?

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
2. You make some good points, but...
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:12 PM
Nov 2016

you might want to edit your second paragraph to use the correct name of the party. It's the Democratic Party, NOT the "Democrat Party." Sorry if this sounds like nitpicking, but "Democrat Party" is a right-wing slur that is frowned upon here.

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