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still_one

(92,153 posts)
1. We were already there when those self-identified progressives refused to vote for Hillary
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:16 PM
Nov 2016

Noam Chomsky: People Who Didnt Vote For Clinton To Block Trump Made A Bad Mistake
"Chomsky told Al Jazeera’s Mehdi Hasan there’s a “moral issue” in voting “against the greater evil” ― Trump, in this case ― even if you don’t like the other candidate. But he also said there was a factual question regarding this year’s candidates, pointing out Trump and Clinton’s “very different” records.

“I didn’t like Clinton at all, but her positions are much better than Trump’s on every issue I can think of,” Chomsky said.

Chomsky said in January he’d vote for Clinton if he lived in a swing state, despite his support for Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who ran against Clinton in the Democratic presidential primary.

“Every Republican candidate is either a climate change denier or a skeptic who says we can’t do it,” Chomsky said. “What they are saying is, ‘Let’s destroy the world.’ Is that worth voting against? Yeah."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/noam-chomsky-donald-trump_us_58385d81e4b000af95ee1fda

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
2. Please link to Charles Blows post, not law news. I'd like to see what he says. For the comments
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:18 PM
Nov 2016

On this post, seems pretty right wing, but I'm not familiar with "lawnewz".

TheLibIn615

(61 posts)
3. Until she puts our money where her mouth is
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:19 PM
Nov 2016

I will continue to live my life under the motto "Fuck Jill Stein."

Between the president elect, his jackal pack cabinet, and his Russian and GOP puppeteers, we are all very close to fucked. That money that (I suspect) she is stealing from us could otherwise be going to environmental and civil rights causes that need it so badly, and that her party claims to be fierce stewards of. This mendacious woman is, I believe, preying on the anxiety we all very justifiably have. She knows that her party will never be able to secure enough votes to get federal funding, because that would actually require effort on their part in between presidential elections. Why put in the blood, sweat, and tears to become a viable party when you can just swindle people?

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
6. It did say that from the beginning though
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:23 PM
Nov 2016

I'm a skeptic of the recount idea in general, because to me, it smacks of desperation, and is a waste of time and money, but in fairness to Stein, her site said from the beginning that she couldn't guarantee that recounts would happen, only that she would "demand" them.

And yes, she has upped her goal considerably from when she started, where it was $2.5 million for filing fees and another million for attorneys' fees, but I also attribute that to putting up the initial fundraising site quickly, and then getting better numbers on additional costs.

If she files for a Wisconsin recount today, then she will have done all that she promised she would do with regards to Wisconsin.

 

quantumjunkie

(244 posts)
7. Precisely!
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:42 PM
Nov 2016

I get a sense people on this board are in need to discredit Stein because they are looking for a scapegoat in why Hillary lost. Not willing to just face reality yet that Hillary definitely had vulnerabilities and it certainly was not because she was a woman (hint: Elizabeth Warren would have won easily).

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