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(740 posts)
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:43 PM Nov 2016

UPDATE: Judge lets Clinton join recount lawsuit

I think she's actually fighting for transparency and not the Presidency.

A judge has allowed Hillary Clinton to join Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein's lawsuit seeking a hand recount in Wisconsin.

Dane County Circuit Judge Valerie Bailey-Rihn granted a request from Clinton's attorneys to join the lawsuit without comment during a hearing Tuesday afternoon. Clinton's team had argued she has a stake in the recount and manual counting is the most transparent method for the public.

Donald Trump beat Clinton by about 22,000 votes in Wisconsin. The recount will start Thursday if Stein or De La Fuente or both meet a Tuesday deadline to pay the $3.5 million cost.


Oh, and she has a signup page on her website:
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UPDATE: Judge lets Clinton join recount lawsuit (Original Post) JSup Nov 2016 OP
I think you are right, but I also think she is recognizing all the hard work that her volunteers did still_one Nov 2016 #1
She still has our back... JSup Nov 2016 #2
yes she does, and we are all heartsick still_one Nov 2016 #4
Great News!! It's moving along! womanofthehills Nov 2016 #3
Yes!!! triron Nov 2016 #5
Now that WI is robbing the funds for their recount, will we need cash on hand to pay for PA and MI? KewlKat Nov 2016 #6
Stein raised the goal to 9.5 million. triron Nov 2016 #7
MI would be about 1 million SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #9
Stein should reimburse Michigan for the entire amount MichMan Nov 2016 #8
Yeah, but she won't SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #10
Maybe Clinton camp onto something? triron Nov 2016 #11
Judge rejects Stein's request for hand recount SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #12
Judge is leaving it up to the counties, find the numbers of the county clerks and express synergie Nov 2016 #17
As an election law junkie, this will be fun to watch Gothmog Nov 2016 #13
knr triron Nov 2016 #14
She is a great woman. musicblind Nov 2016 #15
Good! Hekate Nov 2016 #16


(92,610 posts)
1. I think you are right, but I also think she is recognizing all the hard work that her volunteers did
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:49 PM
Nov 2016

and showing her appreciation to them by joining this effort


(5,625 posts)
6. Now that WI is robbing the funds for their recount, will we need cash on hand to pay for PA and MI?
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 10:59 PM
Nov 2016

because the donors have really slowed down. We need 3 million more to cover the newest estimate.

What happens if tomorrow we don't have the money for MI?


(7,290 posts)
9. MI would be about 1 million
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:27 PM
Nov 2016

and it's a fixed fee.

Stein has pulled in $6.5 million, and we know for sure that she's spent $3.5 million, leaving $3 million. A high end estimate for PA filing fees would be $150,000, based on 3000 affidavits at $50/each. I doubt she had 3000 petitions, and not all precincts were charging, so that number is probably high, so that leaves $2.85 million.

So, unless she's spent $2.25 million on legal fees, she should have plenty to file in Michigan.

Where she might have problems later is if the Wisconsin recount comes in at higher than estimated...if she's already spent the money in the account, she's going to come up short.

edited to update number for MI recount


(12,029 posts)
8. Stein should reimburse Michigan for the entire amount
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:23 PM
Nov 2016
Taxpayers could be on the hook for close to $1 million — or more — for a proposed recount of Michigan's presidential election results, Secretary of State Ruth Johnson said Tuesday.

Green Party candidate Jill Stein, who took just more than 1% of the presidential vote in the Nov. 8 election, has announced she will request a statewide recount by Wednesday's deadline as a check against possible counting mistakes or fraud.

Stein is being charged $125 per precinct, a cost originally estimated at $787,500 in total.
But Michigan Elections Director Chris Thomas said Monday the actual cost charged to Stein could be around $900,000, based on the final size of the recount and the addition of absentee ballot precincts. Any cost beyond the $125 per precinct would be borne by taxpayers at the county level, he said.

Stein's campaign said in a Tuesday news release it expects to pay a Michigan filing fee of $973,250.

But Tuesday, appearing on the "Paul W. Smith Show" on WJR-AM (760), Johnson estimated the cost will be double what Thomas estimated.



(7,290 posts)
10. Yeah, but she won't
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 11:29 PM
Nov 2016

She's not paying the full cost for PA either.

Other states need to look at how Wisconsin does it...charge the true amount, and get it up front.



(1,901 posts)
17. Judge is leaving it up to the counties, find the numbers of the county clerks and express
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 03:20 AM
Nov 2016

yourself as to why a hand count is the necessary.


(4,486 posts)
15. She is a great woman.
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 01:33 AM
Nov 2016

Despite her flaws, and we all have flaws, she is someone I would have been proud to have as my president. She cares about us.

Now I'm sad again

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