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Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:21 PM

There's info about Russian interference that Senate Democrats are asking Obama to declassify.

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http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/11/ron-wyden-thinks-we-all-deserve-truth-about-russian-election-interference
Ron Wyden Thinks We All Deserve the Truth About Russian Election Interference


Here's Wyden's press release.
https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/wyden-leads-7-senate-intelligence-committee-members-calling-on-the-president-to-declassify-information-re-russia-and-the-us-election
“We believe there is additional information concerning the Russian Government and the U.S. election that should be declassified and released to the public. We are conveying specifics through classified channels,” the members wrote.


Here's the actual letter to the President.
https://www.wyden.senate.gov/download/?id=D12DD589-5800-4BEF-9F93-A0A122F38D29&download=1

Edited to add: There's now a petition to the White House to release this information.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/declassify-all-information-related-possible-russian-or-foreign-state-interference-2016-presidential-election

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Reply There's info about Russian interference that Senate Democrats are asking Obama to declassify. (Original post)
drm604 Nov 2016 OP
MADem Nov 2016 #1
Hekate Nov 2016 #2
KT2000 Nov 2016 #3
jalan48 Nov 2016 #4
drm604 Dec 2016 #7
jalan48 Dec 2016 #8
triron Nov 2016 #5
drm604 Dec 2016 #9
rusty fender Dec 2016 #22
triron Nov 2016 #6
triron Dec 2016 #10
KittyWampus Dec 2016 #11
Coyotl Dec 2016 #12
mopinko Dec 2016 #13
MADem Dec 2016 #17
flamingdem Dec 2016 #14
think Dec 2016 #15
shawn703 Dec 2016 #16
drm604 Dec 2016 #18
drm604 Dec 2016 #19
shawn703 Dec 2016 #20
Achilleaze Dec 2016 #21
drm604 Dec 2016 #23
Ellipsis Dec 2016 #24
drm604 Dec 2016 #25
LisaM Dec 2016 #26
drm604 Dec 2016 #27
drm604 Dec 2016 #28
mainer Dec 2016 #29
2naSalit Dec 2016 #30

Response to drm604 (Original post)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:28 PM

1. I hope to come back to this thread tomorrow and see many, many recs. nt

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:39 PM

2. Get it out there. Kick and Rec.

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:41 PM

3. not releasing this

would CONTINUE to undermine our confidence in the election.

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:44 PM

4. Feinstein voted with the Republicans to not declassify. I wonder why? nt

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 12:01 AM

7. I don't see anything to imply that.

All I know is that she didn't sign the letter. That doesn't mean that she voted against it. There may not even have been a vote; just individuals deciding whether or not to sign.

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Response to drm604 (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 12:03 AM

8. My mistake. Here's the verbiage from MJ.

"That's all the Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee except Dianne Feinstein, who joined all the Republicans in apparently not wanting this to be made public."

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:51 PM

5. wtf!

Someone is hiding something. Do they think it will destabilize our society or what?

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Response to triron (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 12:03 AM

9. That's the impression that I get.

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Response to triron (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 02:24 PM

22. Probably more like it will embarrass OUR intelligence

agencies

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:57 PM

6. knr

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 12:27 AM

10. Desperately need a sharp investigative journalist to

interrogate this and report on it; blow it out of the water.

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 12:47 AM

11. Feinstein was the one Democrat who didn't sign. She is loathesome.

 

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 12:51 AM

12. Could get interesting. What happened to that FISA warrant for Trump's secret server to Russia?

 

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512604434
FBI has FISA warrant for Trump secret server connected to Russia.

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 12:53 AM

13. damn it. get it out there.

wyden, you wanna make a name for yourself, release it.
fuck this shit.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #13)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 07:26 AM

17. Wyden should read the information on the Senate floor,

in front of the C-Span cameras.

His speech is protected there. They can't go after him.


Alternatively, he could pull a Mike Gravel, and insert the material into the Congressional Record.

Maybe Harry Reid will do it. I agree, someone needs to do it.

Soon.

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 12:55 AM

14. Release the Kracken

and the Rusky info now, now, now.

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 12:56 AM

15. K&R

 

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 02:21 AM

16. Can't a Senator release the information themselves?

Like Gravel did with the Pentagon Papers?

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Response to shawn703 (Reply #16)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 10:15 AM

18. I don't know.

Can they release classified information? Maybe he feels that it's more proper to allow the President to do it. If he is able to, he could always do so if Obama won't.

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Response to shawn703 (Reply #16)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 10:51 AM

19. I found this.

http://www.pointoforder.com/2013/08/06/congressional-release-of-classified-information-and-the-speech-or-debate-clause/
Ackerman is certainly correct that the Speech or Debate Clause immunizes members of Congress from prosecution for disclosing classified information on the floor or in committee hearings. See Gravel v. U.S., 408 U.S. 606 (1972). As he also recognizes, however, members are not protected against congressional discipline, up to and including expulsion, for revealing classified information without permission.

If this is correct he couldn't be prosecuted but he could still face consequences.

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Response to drm604 (Reply #19)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 02:00 PM

20. I doubt he'd face any

First, it would require a 2/3 vote to expel a Senator. The Republicans would get nowhere near that. Plus the political costs to them for trying to expel someone who revealed that Russia interfered with our election are probably something they wouldn't want to incur.

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Thu Dec 1, 2016, 02:04 PM

21. Release the Crappen (R)

Comrade Casino (R) and his Russian-Republican Hacktivast Cabal have a lot to answer for.

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Fri Dec 2, 2016, 12:43 PM

23. Has anyone heard anything more about this?

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Response to Ellipsis (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:32 AM

25. Nothing new there.

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:35 AM

26. Good luck with that.

Obama doesn't seem disposed to take any action regarding election interference. He should have reined Comey in back in July, but nope.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 09:50 AM

27. Hopefully Wyden, et al will release the info regardless.

They can do so without legal consequences if they do it properly. Going to Obama first may simply have been a matter of trying to do it the more "acceptable" way first before using the protection of the Senate floor to release the information.

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 12:23 PM

29. That's 6 Democrats -- and an Independent (Angus King, ME)

just to be accurate.

(Proud of my fiercely independent senator)

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Response to drm604 (Original post)

Sat Dec 3, 2016, 12:31 PM

30. K&R

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