Hillary beat Trump by Millions of votes.

[boston bean]

Nothing was rigged against him.

Democrats and a clear majority of people wanted Hillary.

Voting for Hillary was not a bad thing.

Why are people so willing to scapegoat people/groups of people who voted for Hillary versus those who did not?

This is some strange times we are living in.

[DemonGoddess]

1. Because scapegoating

makes it acceptable to have voted third party, or not at all, which was as good as voting for the asshole in the first place

[HassleCat]

5. And scapegoating does something else.

Makes it okay to blame those who voted third party, and make the false claim it was just like voting for Trump.

[DemonGoddess]

7. Actually, voting third party WAS just like voting for Trump

certainly NOT a false claim.

[HassleCat]

8. I see your point

100 people vote. 51 vote for Trump. 49 vote for Clinton. Trump wins.

100 people vote. 48 vote for Trump. 49 vote for Clinton. 3 don't vote. Clinton wins.

100 people vote... Oh, what the hell. There are so many possibilities. The thing is, everybody voting doesn't guarantee our candidate winning. We have to turn out our voters, not gripe at people for staying home or voting for Jill Stein. It's not any person's duty or obligation to vote for our candidate. When we approach voters that way, when we tell them they have to vote for our candidate or else, it may occur to people we're not being real affirmative. We could lose elections that way.

[stonecutter357]

2. K&R!

[Flavius Aetius]

3. The problem is

She got those votes in states that were not in play and she lost the electoral college. Like it or not that is the way the system is set up and is not changing anytime soon. Our message has to play nation wide just not in certain states or we will continue to loose.

[musicblind]

4. Welcome to DU. n/t

[Omaha Steve]

10. Hillary knew the EC rules going in

Like I kept hearing about Bernie and the primaries.

Wasted $ millions for ONE EC vote in Omaha because Obama won it in 08. Trophy hunting.

OS


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/12/the-advertising-decisions-that-helped-doom-hillary-clinton/

The advertising decisions that helped doom Hillary Clinton
By Jim Tankersley November 12

In the closing weeks of the presidential race, Hillary Clinton's campaign — and the outside groups that supported it — aired more television advertisements in Omaha than in the states of Michigan and Wisconsin combined. The Omaha ads were in pursuit of a single electoral vote in a Nebraska congressional district, which Clinton did not ultimately win, and also bled into households in Iowa, which also she did not win. Michigan and Wisconsin add up to 26 electoral votes; she appears not to have won them, either.

Strategic decisions can make all the difference in a close race. Clinton lost the White House (despite winning the popular vote) to Republican Donald Trump on the strength of about 100,000 votes in Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. That is the definition of a close race.

But a review of Democrats' advertising decisions at the end of the race suggests Clinton and her allies weren't playing to win a close one. They were playing for a blowout. And it cost them.

Clinton and the groups backing her aired three times as many ads as Trump and his supporters over the course of the general election, according to data from the Wesleyan Media Project. Despite that advantage, the Democrats left several key states essentially unprotected on the airwaves as the race came to a close.


Clinton loses 32 counties to Trump won by Obama in 2012: http://www.nonpareilonline.com/news/local/clinton-loses-counties-to-trump-won-by-obama-in/article_4dccd98a-16ab-52a1-9c02-52f5dd1b8884.html

Posted: Friday, November 11, 2016 12:00 am
By Krista Johnson


The loss of 32 Iowa counties that voted Democratic in 2012 gave Republican nominee Donald Trump the state’s six electoral votes.

While Barack Obama won the state with 38 counties in 2012, Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton claimed just six, an IowaWatch review of Tuesday’s preliminary vote shows.

Last election, Obama’s win was attributed to the larger counties he was able to maintain from his 2008 win in the state, giving him 816,429 votes to Mitt Romney’s 727,928.

But Obama lost 15 counties that he had claimed in the 2008 election, where he won 53 of Iowa’s 99 counties.

FULL story at link. Hillary did not get %50 in the Iowa caucus that she barely won BTW.

[musicblind]

6. I think some of it is to prevent cognitive dissonance.

Here's my theory.

Many of these people didn't want Hillary because they were butthurt over the primary, but they REALLY REALLY didn't want Trump. Deep down they knew they didn't want Trump but deep down they thought he had no real chance of getting elected.

NYT's and Huffington Post had Hillary winning at a 99% chance.

When you know that the "lesser" of two evils, at least in your eyes, is indeed going to win, you don't feel any guilt about protesting, bashing, dragging, etc. You get to feel self-righteous and pure without any guilty feelings. Sure, people warned you, but you dismiss them because you know that your vote doesn't REALLY make the difference.

Then, election night comes and you realize what you've done. Deep down, in the back of your mind, you realize what you are guilty of. Those people who voted to make themselves feel pure rather than to protect their country... they now have to deal with what happened and their cognitive dissonance is too painful for them to admit that it was there fault.

Deep down, they know they are wrong. They know what they did was wrong. They know, in their heart of hearts, that it was wrong not to vote for Hillary and a part of them will probably never forgive themselves, but now it is too late. The damage is done. Their only way to escape the cognitive dissonance of realizing everything they thought they knew was wrong is to continue to deny it. Double down. Lie to themselves until they convince themselves that what they did was okay.

Maybe, instead of hating them, we should show more sympathy toward them.

They made an awful, awful mistake and now they are having to deal with it in their own way.

[Amishman]

9. they have the presidency, house, senate, most state legislatures and governorships

Our problems started well before Nov 8, and we need some serious change if we want to turn this around.

Without getting into the causes, we can all agree that what we have been doing IS NOT WORKING

Geography matters.